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Your blood will clean the blood for now.

It gets really boring and unexciting when, for example in Halo 3, if you played even on Normal only 2 or 3 marines survive out of at least 15. They are soposto be trained, tough humans defending whatever, not dummies just to get sniped or go commit suicide. Even the ODSTs in the campaign were retarded. For example, I would give them the laser to take out turrets and they would just suicide.

But, back to the point, I hope Bungie improved the A.I. Playing as Romeo and then seeing Dutch just go kill himself with a rocket launcher isn't fun. The driving hopefully - will be better instead of randomly driving off a cliff. Do you think the A.I. will be better? Or will it just be there goes buck like Super Master Chief trying to kill 3 Brute Chieftains.

  • 08.17.2009 6:11 PM PDT

You gave a marine a spartan laser....

  • 08.17.2009 6:12 PM PDT
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uhh yeah i dont really know what to say.. guess... i guess i agree but you pretty much just said "I dont want this game to suck" so uhhh yeah who wouldnt agree? so uhhhh
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  • 08.17.2009 6:14 PM PDT

Golf Wang. Brony.

You only get 2 marines out of 15 on Normal? Then must not be doing your job right, then.

It's dramatic compensation. You are the Master Chief after all, and you can't just leave you AI buddies running around and expect it to be consistent.


The other ODST's will be exactly like the Arbiter in Halo 3, I assume.

  • 08.17.2009 6:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: Luxbur
You gave a marine a spartan laser....

And this happens.

It was probably the best moment ever in Halo 3. My friend and I gave the ODST's lasers because we were just messing around, and he was teaching me how to get on the AA Wraith. All of a sudden, I die, see Master Chief flying too, and realize that an ODST had just killed us. The video shows that he blew up a Hornet too. It doesn't make for a great screenshot, unfortunately.

  • 08.17.2009 6:15 PM PDT

Your blood will clean the blood for now.

imo The Arbiter was the best A.I. in the game. Everything else was stoopid.

  • 08.17.2009 6:16 PM PDT

Posted by: Luxbur
You gave a marine a spartan laser....


Good point. Even though, if you give it to them, they'll have infinite ammo... To kill themselves an infinite amount of times... I still think the A.I. in Halo 3 are good.

  • 08.17.2009 6:16 PM PDT
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Ya, I hope the A.I. is much better than it was in Halo 3. I just hope they actually shoot in this game. I remember when I would give an ODST a laser, he would charge it up and right before he would shoot he would just... stop. Also when ever they had the sniper, they would barely fire it, maybe take an inaccurate shot every now and then but nothing life changing.

Hopefully the A.I. is better. I wouldn't mind also if in some of the missions if you would have a decent size squad of marines assisting you, like 6-8 marines. Makes it seem a little more like a war and not a tiny little skirmish.

  • 08.17.2009 6:19 PM PDT

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Marines are awesome A.I. I prefer to slow my pace and fight alongside them. Hell, I'm sure a Marine has saved me before. And, they make great gunners/passenger in vehicles, when they have big guns.

  • 08.17.2009 6:20 PM PDT

Golf Wang. Brony.

Posted by: Arbiduck
Marines are awesome A.I. I prefer to slow my pace and fight alongside them. Hell, I'm sure a Marine has saved me before. And, they make great gunners/passenger in vehicles, when they have big guns.
Same.

You really aren't supposed to rush the campaign IMO

  • 08.17.2009 6:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Luxbur
You gave a marine a spartan laser....

And this happens.

well...he did get the brute...

  • 08.17.2009 6:38 PM PDT

J-H

The AI may be "stupid" but the Marines die with ease because they are only human...The majority of their enemies either have FAR superior weapons and shielding or are much stronger/taller than them so have the upper hand...That's why marines die easily.

  • 08.17.2009 6:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: ferret
Posted by: Unseen Blade
Posted by: Luxbur
You gave a marine a spartan laser....

And this happens.

well...he did get the brute...


See there is a positive side.......i guess.

[Edited on 08.17.2009 6:43 PM PDT]

  • 08.17.2009 6:42 PM PDT

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The marines in Halos 1, 2, and 3 are intentionally dumbed down to put more emphasis on the player.

  • 08.17.2009 6:43 PM PDT

Your blood will clean the blood for now.

Well you will most likely die in 2 pistol shots in real life. Maybe since Reach is a AAA engine (If that has to do with AI) the AI will be more realistic. Like hiding behind a rock when turrets are spraying the cover instead of jumping out and dieing.

  • 08.17.2009 6:45 PM PDT

Vae Victis!

The Arbiter was pretty good (mainly because he respawned though).

But I agree, Bungie really needs to work on the Marines' AI (or maybe make them respawn lol?)

[Edited on 08.17.2009 6:48 PM PDT]

  • 08.17.2009 6:47 PM PDT

the most simple way to keep them alive is to kill the bigger targets (brues, wraiths, ghosts,) and leave the smaller stuff for the marines. (grunts and jackals). basicly have the marines be a clean up crew so you can save urself some ammo

  • 08.17.2009 6:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheUseless0ne
The marines in Halos 1, 2, and 3 are intentionally dumbed down to put more emphasis on the player.


Exactly. Because you're the chief. Humanity's savior. A super soldier.

IMO, the Halo 2 marines were the best. They constantly fired, and were always accurate. If you don't believe me, play it again. I still remember the non stop BR firing from the passenger seat of my hog so much that my ears hurt.

Now that we're not super soldiers, the AI will most hopefully be better.

  • 08.17.2009 6:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheUseless0ne
The marines in Halos 1, 2, and 3 are intentionally dumbed down to put more emphasis on the player.
Couldn't have phrased it better myself.

Bungie could've probably copied enemy AI to fit human needs but decided against it.

  • 08.17.2009 6:55 PM PDT