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Posted by: Lion of Alba
Posted by: LuK the Soviet
Posted by: Slapducky
Three pages of The God Delusion make more sense than the entire Bible combined.[/quote][/quote]You, my good sir, have been terribly miss-informed about Christians. If you ever met a Christian, and told them exactly what you wrote, I'm sure they would have no problem sitting down and discussing it with you. Not forcing the Bible up your nose. TALKING about it. Christian's who behave the way you described do, in fact, exist. But they don't represent our faith. The vast majority of Christians are used to people challenging their faith with accusation. And they (myself included) will gladly explain to you what they can.
If only more people were like you. Unfortunately, a good portion of people I have talked to in real life do not bode well when I challenge their beliefs, but I will steadfastly take challenges towards mine, and then proceed to enforce what I believe on every front necessary. Religion is not a right or a wrong issue with me, it's a at least believe in something because there is enough proof that it's plausible issue. If you see someone spouting off some nonsense about Scientology to kids wouldn't you at least wonder why the hell anyone could believe that kind of stuff? I'm the same way with a Judeo-Christian God.
The reason Christianity hasn't changed at its core for thousands of years is because it works. If it ain't broke don't fix it. If you were going to but software for your computer would you buy the software that works and requires no maintenance or would you rather have the one with tons of bugs that needs constant updates to fix them?
There is an absolute ton of evidence to prove Jesus Christ existed and done all that the New Testament (Historical, accurate, eye witness documentation, this is also proven, message me for it)has recorded. Theres even secular documents from the same time and region that record Jesus' existence.
Why did tens of thousands of Palestinians convert to Christianity in the first century? Why is there over 5000 manuscript copies of the New Testament documents from around the same time shortly after Jesus death from all across the region and even Greece? People had to believe in him for a reason,they weren't stupid back then, they didn't believe things without evidence just like us. What did Jesus do to make them believe in him? What did the apostles do after his death? They couldn't have tricked that many people. Even if they somehow did what would be the point? They had nothing to gain by doing this and had everything to lose just so they could tell people to love each other and love God.
I could go on about how they can prove the great flood with sea creature fossils being found in the top of the Himilayas and the middle of Australia where there is no body of water. "Snapshot fossilization", accelerated rock formations, continental drift by streams under the earth's surface.
But I get the feeling no matter how much evidence I throw at you, you're just going to think the worst of me still. So I'll make you a deal. I'm going to go pray for us, that what I believe to be God's will happens and we'll see what happens when we die.
Hey if you're right I still lived a good life and died believing I was going to Heaven and you maybe the same without the last part. But If I'm right then I'm afraid the outcome will not be in your favor.
Hence why I'm going to go pray in all sincerity that you wake up and see the real evidence that Athiesm is a destructive fad that people are being lied to with. And that its "elite" are sad people who hate others for having some kind of hope justified or not. And I'm also going to pray that God reveals himself to you in your life so that you can know him.
You tell us to make up our own minds and think for ourselves. Why don't you do the same? QFT i will be praying for him as-well i would rather die believing and find out there's no god then die a non believer and find out there is.