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  • 09.03.2011 6:30 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

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Wow, that's really reaching. Firstly, Noble 6 didn't lead the "exodus," the UNSC High Command did. Secondly, the people of New Alexandria weren't being enslaved. You might as well say everyone who orchestrates an evacuation is "Moses."

  • 09.03.2011 6:32 PM PDT
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Also. Just for the record.

117 - Spartan Number, stands for Apocalipsis 1:17 As reads:

When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: Do not be afraid . I am the First and the Last.

  • 09.03.2011 8:17 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."


Posted by: McFlies2
117 - Spartan Number, stands for Apocalipsis 1:17 As reads:

When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: Do not be afraid . I am the First and the Last.

WAT. How does that relate to John in the slightest? He was not the first Spartan, and he is not the last Spartan. I have also seen people say that it's 1:17 out of most of the books of your new testament.

You guys are reaching pretty hard.

  • 09.03.2011 10:04 PM PDT


Posted by: Adam 36O
Only in the last decade or so has computer entertainment started to mature into something truly worthy of being considered an art form. To some, this idea is still ridiculous. How could a medium that prides itself on virtual, bloody battlefields and fat, Italian plumbers be an art form? There are many different factors that could play into this argument, such as the very beauty of the virtual worlds themselves or the narratives that are growing ever more complex, putting other mediums to shame. Video games are reaching a point where they are achieving a great level of complexity. Truly, this is the exception and not the rule in the industry, but can't the same be said for Hollywood or the New York Times Bestsellers list? The main point of this article is to point to and flesh out a particular game franchise that is very near and dear to my heart: Halo. I think that looking at an example of a game that can provide entertainment and something more is a way to give validity to the industry.

The Halo franchise is a shining example of how something very mainstream can be something very deep, well made, and rewarding for many reasons. Millions and millions have played this massive property, and yet few have taken into account the subtexts of the story as a whole. I believe that there are many parts of the Halo narrative that point to the scriptures. I would even argue that the developers of the game intended the story as a Christian allegory. Perhaps they used this symbolism to craft an epic story and not as an evangelism tool, but the evidence is there. There is far too much to simply blow off and assume mere coincidence. I've done some research, and I can't find anything on the web that lays these Christian symbolisms out in any sort of a coherent manner, so here is my attempt.

There's no denying that Christ is truly the focal point of the entire Bible. He is the fulfillment of the many Old Testament prophecies and a direct influence (in human form) on the events of the New Testament and its writers. His sacrifice and the salvation it provides is THE reason for the gospel. It only makes sense to look for this Christ-like figure in the Halo universe and you don't have to look far. The Master Chief, the main character and hero of the franchise, fits this description very well. One thing that is often overlooked is the character's real name. We don't know his last name; we only know his military serial number, 117. Thus, he is often referred to as John 117. Prior to the release of Halo 3, the conclusion of the saga, the slogan "BELIEVE" became associated with the franchise. The main character, the Chief, was to be the hope and inspiration for all of mankind as evil was bearing down on them. This is where his name comes into play. This is John 1:17 (note the resemblance to John 117) from the NIV translation: "For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."
This verse, and thus, the Master Chief's name, is clearly a reference to the saving work of Christ.

So what is he saving us from exactly? Well this is where things get complex, and I may lose some of the less fanatical Halo fans with all of these technicalities. Best start with the name of the franchise, which has religious undertones in and of itself. Halo is named after the many installations (known as Halos) that are scattered throughout the fictional universe. It is discovered relatively early on that they are designed for one purpose: to cleanse the galaxy of a life-ending threat. This threat is called "The Flood." The Flood is a seemingly ancient race of aliens that are parasitic in nature and reanimate those that they slay in battle. They multiply at such an alarming rate that they are basically impossible to destroy entirely, and many civilizations have fallen to them. They are savage and brutal, and operate as a hive mind, linked directly to their "leader", the Gravemind. The Gravemind seems to be a representation of sin itself, and even says so about halfway through the second game. He tells mankind that he is "A monument to all their sins" and his very name seems to point to the idea of death in sin, also known as Total Depravity. He also has certain characteristics of the devil and false prophets/ angels because he often begins his statements with the phrase "Do not be afraid." He often references himself as earth's "salvation" and "peace", which is no doubt a deception. He even corrupts the Master Chief's artificial intelligence, Cortana, at one point, and makes her spew out false prophecies like "There will be no more sadness, no more envy, no more anger." The Gravemind has every intention to destroy mankind through the power of the Flood.
Now back to the Halo installations. They were built by a now seemingly extinct race known as the "Forerunners." The rings, when activated (there are 7 of them, one of many 7s throughout the game) destroy all sentient life within the galaxy's radius, leaving the flood to starve from lack of suitable hosts. Interestingly, the technology of the Forerunners gives the Master Chief and all of humanity a chance to stop the flood, but at a serious cost: death for all (perhaps indicating that we are all headed towards death without a savior?). John the Baptist is often referred to as "the forerunner" in the gospels, so it makes sense that these Forerunners would aid the true savior, the Chief, through their past accomplishments (not to mention the many warnings of the Flood, (a.k.a. sin) that they left behind).

This is where yet another Biblical reference comes into play: the Covenant. The Covenant is a unified group of alien species hell bent on activating the Halo installations to bring about "The Great Journey". They are religious fanatics through and through (their ships even have religious names like "Truth and Reconciliation" and "Seraph"), and will stop at nothing to "cleanse" the universe. They ironically worship all Forerunner technology and consider it holy. They are blissfully unaware that activating these rings actually leads to mass extinction and not to true salvation from the Flood. The hierarchs of the Covenant are called "Prophets" (ironically named "Truth" and "Mercy"), and throughout the course of the series they are proven to be corrupt, irrational, and ignorant of the truth about the Halos. It seems to me that the Covenant is representative of the "law" because of their inability to provide true salvation through their endeavors. Because we are saved through faith and not works (remember, the creators of the game tell us to BELIEVE in the Chief) the law is not enough to save us, therefore the Covenant's activation of the Halos is not enough to provide TRUE salvation.

So how does one activate all of the Halos? Via the Ark. The Ark is a giant installation located at the center of the fictional galaxy that connects all of the installations together and can ultimately end all life, and therefore end the flood. This is where the Noahic covenant comes into play. In Genesis, God promises to never again destroy the earth with a flood by taking up a covenant with Noah. The Ark, therefore, is what saves all of sentient life from the Flood by instead destroying everything that the flood could consume. The Covenant wish to activate the installation and believe that this work will truly save them. Just as a belief which relies solely on the law, is not enough to provide true salvation, so is the activation of this false "Ark" not enough to truly bring about peace. The Ark leads to destruction and is not the true way to defeat the Flood (sin). In other words, the Covenant and their crusade is a false and empty one.

So either way, mankind is doomed right? Well, no, of course not, that would not make a very good video game story. Nor would it make a very encouraging life story. The only way for the Flood to be truly stopped is to annihilate the Gravemind himself. Well, it turns out the Chief does just that by descending into the pit of the flood itself on The Ark. This pit is representative of the death that Christ had to go through to be the ultimate sacrifice for out sins. Now in order to fully eliminate the Flood threat, the Chief has to actually perform the work that he was trying to prevent all along: activate the installation (a.k.a. perfectly fulfill the law, or the mission of the Covenant) out of range of mankind and sacrifice himself while destroying the Flood once and for all. So he descends, fulfills the works of "the law" and sacrifices himself in the process, ensuring TRUE salvation for all mankind.

Upon completion of this task, the Chief's last words with his long-time helper, Cortana are "It's finished." Tetelestai, which means "It is finished" in Greek are Christ's final words before dying on the cross. And finally, he says "Wake me when you need me." as he floats in the dark void of space alone. This seems to indicate an eventual "resurrection" of the chief in the future. Just as we think the battle with the Flood and the ensuing explosion was the death of him, we see that he did in fact survive and will one day return again. Lastly, Cortana sends word to earth of what happened to the Flood so that mankind will know that the Chief has done his job and will live on. This seems very representative of the work of the Holy Spirit, pointing to a finished salvation and a still-living savior. The series concludes at a memorial service for the Chief back on earth, as the surviving human race "believes" that he is truly out there. The last thing we see is the inscription "John 117" on the side of his memorial and the screen fades to black, a final reminder of the Chief as a Christ figure.

Whether or not all of that was truly intended by the script writers at Bungie I may never know, but it sure does line up well. Hope this has been eye opening and maybe even a little entertaining. Comments?


Wow.

  • 09.04.2011 1:06 AM PDT

fatum lustum stultorum:
i'm a "retro gamer," but i'm sure i would love to dive into these fancy new worlds if i could afford the newfangled technology. hire me, bungie. please hire me. i'll grind your coffee, fetch your bagels, and leave my artwork in random places since i'm a drop-out with no professional qualifications.

Adam, this is beautiful. i admire your eloquence. i have also heard some people describe halo as an atheist metaphor. they say the covenant are muslims.
...perhaps, but i like your story much better, and the John 1:17 reference says it all! it's kind of overt and undeniable when they've put "john" right next to the "117." i think many people are too touchy about religion, and art like this exemplifies the universal truth of mythology. have you heard of Joseph Campbell?
also, the number 7 has been a theme back to the marathon trilogy. pathways into darkness and marathon are FLOODED with philosophical and mythological references. lots of stuff about consciousness and the universe. then of course you have myth: the fallen lords with its total codex and armies of the dead...

[Edited on 09.04.2011 9:37 AM PDT]

  • 09.04.2011 7:09 AM PDT

The prophets are false witness to god( forerunners) and bend their actions and wills to their own desires. Sounds like those corrupt priests that kill jesus

  • 09.04.2011 8:49 AM PDT

fatum lustum stultorum:
i'm a "retro gamer," but i'm sure i would love to dive into these fancy new worlds if i could afford the newfangled technology. hire me, bungie. please hire me. i'll grind your coffee, fetch your bagels, and leave my artwork in random places since i'm a drop-out with no professional qualifications.

i forgot to show you this:
http://marathon.bungie.org/story/trash.html

  • 09.04.2011 9:36 AM PDT

"Halo! Its divine wind will rush through the stars, propelling all who are worthy along the path to salvation."


Posted by: jack0fhearts

Posted by: McFlies2
117 - Spartan Number, stands for Apocalipsis 1:17 As reads:

When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: Do not be afraid . I am the First and the Last.

WAT. How does that relate to John in the slightest? He was not the first Spartan, and he is not the last Spartan. I have also seen people say that it's 1:17 out of most of the books of your new testament.

You guys are reaching pretty hard.
Actually, John was the first SPARTAN to be examined by Dr. Halsey, remember the coin scene in the first book? And everyone thought that he was indeed the last of his kind, ONI kept it secret that there were a fistful of other SPARTANS remaining.

  • 09.04.2011 10:03 AM PDT

I <3 Bungie...and HALO!

I would just like to let you know Adam 36O, that in the year I have been on these forums, this is the first ever thread I have saved. Thank you for the great thread, I won't forget this one.

  • 09.04.2011 11:23 AM PDT

Swag punks, fu­­ck off!

Love this thread, Great job. :)

  • 09.04.2011 1:08 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Posted by: greatestSheriff
Actually, John was the first SPARTAN to be examined by Dr. Halsey, remember the coin scene in the first book? And everyone thought that he was indeed the last of his kind, ONI kept it secret that there were a fistful of other SPARTANS remaining.

Wrong. The Spartan candidates were screened from the years of 2511 to 2517. John was screened and abducted in 2517. He would have actually been one of the last ones. Numerically speaking, the first Spartan to be examined would have been whoever was 001. John would have been the 117th.

And everyone did not think that John was the last Spartan. John thought he was the last one. Yet in less than a month he found that Linda was still "alive." The public (both military and civilian,) thought that the majority of Spartans were only MIA, if they knew at all.

There is absolutely nothing designating John-117 as the "first and last" of anything.

[Edited on 09.04.2011 10:07 PM PDT]

  • 09.04.2011 10:05 PM PDT

Hello all, it's fantastic to see people still embracing this thread year in and year out! I for one am extremely excited to see where 343 Industries takes the series and how this may apply to the topic at hand. Whether or not the new "Reclaimer" series follows up on the allegory I've pointed out or not, I'm sure the professionals at 343 will weave quite a tale for us.

I've seen quite a few recent discussions related to the book series, and I must admit that I am not as well read on the Halo series as I should be. I would like to point out, however, that Bungie isn't as involved with the stories told in these books as they were with the main games themselves, so I'm not surprised to find out that the allegorical ideas don't always translate well between mediums. Still, some of you out there are pointing out that the Master Chief is not the "first or last of anything", but regardless, you'd have a very difficult time arguing that he isn't the most important and significant Spartan to ever live. He was special and had a UNIQUELY special role to play in the salvation of mankind...a task that only he could accomplish (Cortana is big on that "something special" that makes the Chief the Chief). Anyways, I really and truly look forward to more discussions from this avid community as the Halo universe continues onward into the distant future!

  • 09.05.2011 5:29 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Posted by: Adam 36O
Still, some of you out there are pointing out that the Master Chief is not the "first or last of anything", but regardless, you'd have a very difficult time arguing that he isn't the most important and significant Spartan to ever live. He was special and had a UNIQUELY special role to play in the salvation of mankind...a task that only he could accomplish (Cortana is big on that "something special" that makes the Chief the Chief).

Okay, and that relates to Christianity how? I'm sorry to sound harsh, but Jesus is only really important to you. As a Pagan he dictates nothing in my life - regardless of Christian beliefs - and in no way is represented by a fictional wartime hero. I am sure that Agnostics, Atheists, and those of other more various beliefs feel the same.

As for him being the "most important and significant Spartan," this too is also fallacious. If John-117 is so special, why was Black Team and Noble Team outfitted with advanced MJOLNIR armors? John only received the Mk VI first (that we know of) because he was the only available Spartan II able to return to the homefleet. Other significant Spartans that were far more significant than John.
#1.) Kat. Without Kat, the full potential and purpose of the Reach Artifact would have never been known. Laszlo Sorvad's discovery - stored on the hard drive - would have been lost and/or destroyed had she not retrieved it. Without Kat, Cortana would have never deciphered Halo's location, and would not have gained the massive wealth of Forerunner knowledge that she did. Quite literally, without Kat's theft, the entire war would have been lost at Reach.
#2.) Noble Six. Without Noble Six, Cortana would not have made it safely to the Pillar of Autumn. She would have remained as a simple UNSC Smart AI - albeit a very bright one - and the war would have likely been lost sooner.

John only ever made it as far as he did because he was lucky. not because he was exceptionally skilled. His success was only due to the aid and advancement of others, as well as made possible through the past actions of other Spartans, as seen above. There are likely more that are there, but none others come to mind at this time. In the grand scheme of the UNSC and the war as a whole, John is one minor fraction in a greater whole.

[Edited on 09.05.2011 6:35 PM PDT]

  • 09.05.2011 6:34 PM PDT

"Let the big man do his work"
"Look, Reach has been good to me, time has come to return the favor. Don't deny me this. Tell 'em to make it count." - Jorge 052
Terminus Est- Forward unto the end


Posted by: jack0fhearts
Posted by: Adam 36O
Still, some of you out there are pointing out that the Master Chief is not the "first or last of anything", but regardless, you'd have a very difficult time arguing that he isn't the most important and significant Spartan to ever live. He was special and had a UNIQUELY special role to play in the salvation of mankind...a task that only he could accomplish (Cortana is big on that "something special" that makes the Chief the Chief).

Okay, and that relates to Christianity how? I'm sorry to sound harsh, but Jesus is only really important to you. As a Pagan he dictates nothing in my life - regardless of Christian beliefs - and in no way is represented by a fictional wartime hero. I am sure that Agnostics, Atheists, and those of other more various beliefs feel the same.

As for him being the "most important and significant Spartan," this too is also fallacious. If John-117 is so special, why was Black Team and Noble Team outfitted with advanced MJOLNIR armors? John only received the Mk VI first (that we know of) because he was the only available Spartan II able to return to the homefleet. Other significant Spartans that were far more significant than John.
#1.) Kat. Without Kat, the full potential and purpose of the Reach Artifact would have never been known. Laszlo Sorvad's discovery - stored on the hard drive - would have been lost and/or destroyed had she not retrieved it. Without Kat, Cortana would have never deciphered Halo's location, and would not have gained the massive wealth of Forerunner knowledge that she did. Quite literally, without Kat's theft, the entire war would have been lost at Reach.
#2.) Noble Six. Without Noble Six, Cortana would not have made it safely to the Pillar of Autumn. She would have remained as a simple UNSC Smart AI - albeit a very bright one - and the war would have likely been lost sooner.

John only ever made it as far as he did because he was lucky. not because he was exceptionally skilled. His success was only due to the aid and advancement of others, as well as made possible through the past actions of other Spartans, as seen above. There are likely more that are there, but none others come to mind at this time. In the grand scheme of the UNSC and the war as a whole, John is one minor fraction in a greater whole.


1) John is the most important Spartan seeing as he is the central protagonist to the story of Halo. Do not forget that he was the leader of the SPARTAN II's. Also, name another spartan that saved the galaxy 3 times from Forerunner doomsday weapons (Halos) AND an ancient parasitic evil (Flood).

2) your points about Noble Team were invalid seeing as Noble was a team made up of SPARTAN III's, Who were only known to exist by a handful of ONI personel. Indeed, Col. Ackerson's whole concept of the SPARTAN III's was a force that was low cost ( compared to the S-II's) and expendable.


[Edited on 09.08.2011 6:43 PM PDT]

  • 09.06.2011 6:10 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Posted by: ARBITER PANTHEO

1.) That only makes John-117 the most important Spartan to the audience. In the storyline of Halo, John is not the most important. In terms of the Trilogy (because there are several other major protagonists in the Halo Universe,) John is the "focus" because we play from his focus. When it is all boiled down to brass tacks, John really doesn't do anything unless he is told to. He was also not the "leader" of the Spartan II's. He was the Squad Leader of Blue Team. The "leader" of the Spartans was ONI Section III.

John also only stopped one Halo ring directly, and the rest through pressing a button. Not really what I would call "heroic," as Johnson could have easily done the same were he not in grief. Through the efforts of Thel 'Vadamee, Sgt. Johnson and most importantly Miranda Keyes, Installation 05 was halted. And is it confirmed that the Flood is completely eradicated? I would bet that it is not. How many other Forerunner installations exist with Flood on them?

2.) How are they invalid? Without their actions - known or not - NONE of the other events would have happened. John wouldn't be the big "hero" that he is, and the UNSC would have likely been crushed. It is because of their actions that John was able to re-discover the Halo Arrays and put a temporary stop to the Flood.

3.) You're mad, I can understand that. However, at risk of drawing theology into this, do not assume on the nature of my beliefs. I am not anti-theistic in the slightest, nor am I atheistic. To compare me to someone who does not believe in a supernatural system (god) is extremely fallacious and upsetting. My only point in this entire thing is that Halo is not a 100% direct reference to Christianity. It is not Christian propaganda, paraphernalia, and/or directed to a Christian audience as a message of faith.

It is a game, with slight religious references. If you choose to see your faith in this game, great! That doesn't bother me. But it's highly arrogant - I find - to insist that your message is the only message being brought to the table in a video game. For instance, several pages back I bring to offer that the references to biblical stories may actually be criticisms and demystification of the mythology, not a lauding reference to the historical accuracy of a religious text. We see what we want in this game. If you have any problems or questions with this, feel free to message me. I would be more than happy to talk this out in the privacy of a PM.

  • 09.06.2011 9:01 PM PDT

lxl Syphon lxl

We'll have to see what halo 4 holds

  • 09.06.2011 9:14 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

How do you mean "what Halo 4 holds"?

  • 09.07.2011 2:10 PM PDT

Godspeed.

Not everyone will understand this, but:

How about, Forerunners = Forerunners.

What I mean is that I'm agreeing with OP, not being a sarcastic ass.

[Edited on 09.07.2011 11:20 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 11:19 PM PDT

Joshua Piper

An amazing essay! I applaud you for your hard work. While I can see some admittedly striking comparisons in the forms of the Ark, the Flood, the Arbiter's trial and others. There is no real reason to compare John to Christ, if anything he's the exact opposite of Jesus or rather he's more like the messiah that the Jews wanted i.e. a military leader.

If Halo is a Christian/Biblical allegory then what is the underlining message? what is the moral message? 'Might is Right' perhaps? or 'an eye for an eye'?

Heck I'm taking this too seriously, it's a nice idea but I don't think thats what Bungie was planning in their brainstorm meetings. It's a little too subtle for their style, no offense to Bungie but their stories tend to have as much subtly as a MA5B on full auto at the loudest volume.

Sorry but that is just what I think, please don't be offended by it.

  • 09.08.2011 11:17 AM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Posted by: Righteous Fury19
If Halo is a Christian/Biblical allegory then what is the underlining message? what is the moral message? 'Might is Right' perhaps? or 'an eye for an eye'?

This is what I have been getting at; there is no underlying "moral message." It's a story of survival and war. Are there lessons to be learned? Several. But it doesn't have one definitive "this is what this game is saying." It's not like movies such as (first that came to mind,) The Craft, where the message is not to abuse power because the consequences are very real.

Is it fine to see your faiths' iconography and parallels in Halo? In some instances it's hard not to. But it is not a game with one declarative message.

EDIT: And before anyone gets bent out of shape, this is not said in spite. I am not angry, offended, or "trolling." Read the above as in a calm voice.

[Edited on 09.08.2011 2:58 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2011 2:57 PM PDT

"Let the big man do his work"
"Look, Reach has been good to me, time has come to return the favor. Don't deny me this. Tell 'em to make it count." - Jorge 052
Terminus Est- Forward unto the end


Posted by: jack0fhearts
This is what I have been getting at; there is no underlying "moral message." It's a story of survival and war. Are there lessons to be learned? Several. But it doesn't have one definitive "this is what this game is saying." It's not like movies such as (first that came to mind,) The Craft, where the message is not to abuse power because the consequences are very real.

Is it fine to see your faiths' iconography and parallels in Halo? In some instances it's hard not to. But it is not a game with one declarative statement


I do agree with you that there is no underlying "Moral". This isn't one of Aesop's fables, after all.

  • 09.08.2011 6:47 PM PDT

I hate campers, but camp a lot myself.


Posted by: Pokezilla Linked
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
In terms of when the Religions showed up and also the way that the factions act within Halo... I always paralleled

God = Precursors
Jews; Jesus, Noah, etc. = Forerunners
Christians = The Covenant
Muslims = Humanity

The Covenant-Human war parallels the Crusades, with the Covenant (Christians) trying to re-take Forerunner relics from the humans.


Wait, you're meaning to say that Halo is anti-Christian? From what I read on Halopedia, it appears as though you're wrong.


Agreed. Ever noticed that "The Ark" is a safe haven (to an extent) from "The Flood" just as Noah's Ark was a protection from the Great Flood. Halo is full of biblical references. I'm not even that religious and I still notice them.

  • 09.09.2011 6:53 PM PDT

Posted by: FaJiTa TuEsDaY
only eat one small snack a week to save money on food and just have water toilet and lights to save money thats my plan

Though the Earth is dying we must enrich her body, for the ground we tread is hφly.

I'm a lion in a world where everybody's content with being cats.

Few years late but A for effort.

One thing to note is that the connotations of the number 7 are generally something like 'perfection' or 'the divine.'

[Edited on 09.09.2011 8:04 PM PDT]

  • 09.09.2011 7:57 PM PDT