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Posted by: jack0fhearts
Truth is exactly what he is; a religious fanatic. If this is a message at all, it's an anti-organized religion message, as we know the full extent of the Covenant's beliefs and how fatally flawed they are. Personally, I see the Covenant as an allegory on the Roman Catholic church, but there's nothing solid saying that's exactly what they are. The Covenant is simply a religiously political conglomerate.Yeah, I guess the RCC does try to suppress things similarly to the Covenant hierarchy.
Posted by: jack0fhearts
In the biblical sense, satan means simply opposer or adversary. There can be thousands of satans, and they can be anything. When Jesus told one of his apostles "Get behind me, satan," he wasn't calling that apostle the devil, he was merely calling him out on opposing Jesus' will, and told him to get back in line.Ok.
Posted by: jack0fhearts
In the original text of the old testament, Satan (Ha-Satan, but I will use the capitalized Satan for simplicity,) has never fallen from heaven. He is a member and head of a divine council called the "Sons of God," who are charged with watching the earth and carrying out trials for mankind's faith. Satan was the angel who delivered Abraham's trial and also called off the sacrifice, and Satan is the angel who tested Job. In the passage, Satan is named among the Sons of God because of his importance, and is charged by Yahweh to test, but not kill, Job. He can quite literally do no action outside of Yahweh's command.Precisely!
Posted by: jack0fhearts
In this sense and with this understanding "the Devil," (easiest identified as Lucifer,) is a satan, but is not Satan. Pergamon in the text is not the residing place of Satan or Lucifer, but of "satan," in that the worshipers there of Isis and Serapis "opposed" the "will of god."Ah I see. You've done your research!
When I was editing articles on Halopedia, I was just doing some Google searches and comparing Halo quotes, such as "rebel or all your hives will perish" which sounds similar to Luke 13:3, 5 and I noticed the apparent Citadel connection, but I did not know about what was being worshiped at Pergamon. It is odd how some gods are specifically mentioned in the New Testament (i.e. Python in Acts) yet some gods are not (Isis and Seraphis are something I ought to look into).
Or perhaps it just the nature of the book of Revelation that the names were withheld and the gods labelled as Satan.
Posted by: jack0fhearts
Apologies, I assumed you meant that they were evil in that High Charity fell to a "wretched hive," and in the biblical text Babylon - which became "evil" - was a "hive" as well.Apology accepted. Not at all. There's a reason why I mentioned the worldwide Flood myth. The Flood may have traits of demons (the ones infesting Babylon) but that is not their true purpose.
Posted by: jack0fhearts
That's good to know. I'm a Pagan, myself.I have some religious tendencies but by no means do I like to enforce my beliefs on others. I like to keep things to myself. I try to avoid the subject of religion whenever possible.
Edit:
In consideration of your contribution, I have edited the section of the article I mentioned. When I was working on the article, I would put similarities here but I would expound on them without doing much research. Never again will I claim a connection without doing research first.
[Edited on 03.04.2012 8:22 PM PST]