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Subject: Halo as a Christian Allegory

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Even still, debating on forums is like the Special Olympics. We don't need validation or approval to enjoy it, so long as it's kept relatively civil.

  • 03.07.2012 11:55 PM PDT

Nice Article

  • 03.08.2012 2:28 AM PDT

Awesome I wish that people could think this clairvoanntly about religion itself in the real world, instead of the hate that people often misinterpret it with, thank you.
What makes this even more inspiring is the fact that i just came over from the flood.

  • 03.09.2012 12:22 PM PDT
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Overall this is simplified bye combining widom born of love shown as an expression in the collective wisdoms of Christian, Judeaic, Muslim, and Buddist religions. Allegorically speaking.

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  • 03.13.2012 6:20 AM PDT
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Wish granted, yes?

  • 03.13.2012 6:21 AM PDT

That's the greatness of God. even if we try to avoid something, it still might tie in to the message God want's us to take in.

  • 03.16.2012 1:27 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Wish for what, Leader?

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  • 03.16.2012 1:57 PM PDT

HELLO I AM MASTER CH33F LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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So...Master Chief IS Jesus?

  • 03.16.2012 4:41 PM PDT
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Wish people could think this clairvoiantly...
As for master chief = jesus, stating that you should find imagintion to call upon what poetry is needed, as both deliver when called upon.

  • 03.16.2012 4:55 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."


Posted by: RamonTheMighty
So...Master Chief IS Jesus?

There is no sound founding for the theory of Master Chief being a reference or embodiment of Jesus.

  • 03.17.2012 12:22 AM PDT
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Why make statements that impossible cannot be truth when we live in a world that does that to us denying dreams daily. At least here impossible occurs daily. I love bungie for that, love GOD more too. I prefer to keep it that way.

  • 03.19.2012 9:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: RamonTheMighty
So...Master Chief IS Jesus?
Arby better suits that role. Arby seems to say things that Jesus supposedly said and the fact that he tries to reason with the Drones on Crow's Nest and Tartarus shows that he does not want to see them die. Or he just wants Truth dead. Either way, Arby does not hate the Covenant. Arby hates the leader of the Covies.

It's ironic though that he shoots at the Drones while saying those lines and they don't even try to attack him. They've never shot their gun at me, not even on Legendary.

  • 03.19.2012 11:07 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Posted by: TrueLeaderofLove
Why make statements that impossible cannot be truth when we live in a world that does that to us denying dreams daily. At least here impossible occurs daily. I love bungie for that, love GOD more too. I prefer to keep it that way.

If you personally want to see the Chief as Jesus then have at it. However there is no canonical or factual evidence to support such a claim.

  • 03.20.2012 12:34 AM PDT
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Never said one way or the other, just pointing out this makes another path one can follow to the Lord and uses imagination, something it appears bungie has enjoyed cultivating.
Question is : Does this source of inspiration enlighten you further?
Shine on.

  • 03.20.2012 2:16 AM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

I have expressed what the game is to me. To my eyes (and yes, I have studied and know christianity thoroughly,) the only clear references to the Abrahamic religions is the useage and parallels of the Ark and the Flood. The Covenant can be a reference to the church, but aside from those that is it. As I see also very clear and blatant Norse and Greek references, this game is not a christian allegory to my eyes; especially since those Pagan elements are paramount to the success of the UNSC.

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Does making something regarded to be impossible happen exist within the Lords power? Why should further demonstration be used contrary to this. Defending one's own views on faith is necessary, however learned as you are I'd like to see you use that to illuminate others with ways story does echo certain biblical cannon. "Would chief believe in Jesus?" might work. Having my own knowledge of Christianity, faith instructs me provide the open door for God.

  • 03.20.2012 4:31 AM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Posted by: TrueLeaderofLove
"Would chief believe in Jesus?" might work. Having my own knowledge of Christianity, faith instructs me provide the open door for God.

That would be a more "doable" theory, yet you still wouldn't have much to go off, I feel. Still, it's more believable than trying to equate him directly to a specific past figure.

  • 03.20.2012 2:12 PM PDT

I am a "True" gamer advocate.
Halo 2
People are crazy, and times are strange...

lock this, its religion

  • 03.20.2012 2:17 PM PDT

Screw christianity im following the great journey, I will assend into god hood! Ignite the rings!! :D

  • 03.28.2012 1:46 AM PDT
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Like a city whose walls are broken down
is a man who lacks self-control.
Like snow in summer or rain in harvest,
honor is not fitting for a fool.
-Proverbs25:28

It inspired me as well. I recognized certain names in Halo's storyline but I never realized the depth of such a wonderful story to be tied in with the greatest story in the world. Being a christian, I have never been more compelled about a simple video game until now. :)

  • 04.03.2012 7:42 AM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Having just come from Art History, I think I have a good comparison to this. Halo is similar to Roman art, namely that of early christianity. For instance, there's a fresco in the catacombs of "The Good Shephard." Now, when a christian views this, they obviously see Jesus. However the figure isn't given a direct name. The art style blends elements of several cultures so that the figure can also be seen as Apollo, who was also depicted as a shepherd, and it can be seen as Orpheus, who spent great time around animals.

Is Halo specifically a christian allegory? No. However it can be. It can also be seen as a Norse allegory, or a Greek allegory. Or it can be taken at face value and have no religious allegories.

  • 04.03.2012 9:22 AM PDT

"Moooooooo"
-Ghost cow

If you say 'jesus' backwards, it sounds like 'sausage'.

  • 04.05.2012 8:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: RebornGhost man
Screw christianity im following the great journey, I will assend into god hood! Ignite the rings!! :D


Rofl I will help you brother!
(i'm christian :P)

  • 04.06.2012 9:08 AM PDT

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tenn' Ambar-metta!


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Posted by: RebornGhost man
Screw christianity im following the great journey, I will assend into god hood! Ignite the rings!! :D


Rofl I will help you brother!
(i'm christian :P)


And we know how it will end: Mass killing.

  • 04.06.2012 9:12 AM PDT
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Something I've been thinking about lately:

Does randomness exist?

Does it exist in Halo games? In CE, it seems to be non-existent. But in H2, H3, and Reach, it seems to exist. Is there really a difference?

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  • 04.06.2012 11:42 AM PDT