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Subject: Flashbang or Fragmentation Gernade?
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So what your doing is childish? oh ok, well i was just trying to get people to say there point, but if your calling yourslef childish its fine by me.

  • 04.26.2004 3:29 PM PDT
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Bungie has said that the Frag grenade now has stunning side-effects, so that the enemy are disoriented. And you can clearly hear the marine say, "Frag and clear"

So no, it's NOT a flashbang. 100% positive.

  • 04.26.2004 3:41 PM PDT
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jharbst is exactly correct.

  • 04.26.2004 3:43 PM PDT
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ok, can you tell me where they said that it would have a "stunning side-effect"?

And if it was a frag it why when it exploded right next to the WEAK A$$ grunts it didnt send them flying through the air?

Why does he say clear after frag? he doesnt say "frag and" obviously.

Hes exactly wrong.

[Edited on 4/26/2004 3:44:13 PM]

  • 04.26.2004 3:43 PM PDT
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http://xbox.ign.com/articles/403/403527p1.html

Go to the bottom.

  • 04.26.2004 3:44 PM PDT
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Thats just what they got out of the E3 movie? No?

who aren't in the immediate blast radius

Well the grunts and jackal where right in the blast radius.

  • 04.26.2004 3:47 PM PDT
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It WASN'T right next to them. It was at a distance (just like the original) where it disabled the jackals shields and injured the others, then they were disoriented from the loud sound. Which bring me to my next point, my uncle used to be on a swat-style squad in seattle.....a flashbang disorients by sound, not the flash, it causes you to not be able to see, but it's from the sound. Just stop havoc, you say everyone else's thoughts are wrong, but you should look at your own...they make no sense.

  • 04.26.2004 3:48 PM PDT
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Did you think that the grenades might be updated??? The grenades in Halo 1 cause the same amount of damage anywhere in their blast radius, you can stand right on it or be 5 feet away, it does the same amount. Halo 2 is supposed to be more realistic, maybe damage is greater towards the center of the blast now.

  • 04.26.2004 3:49 PM PDT
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You're really starting to piss me off. Sure it's a videogame forum, on the internet. A really stupid thing to get mad at. But even so, you make me mad. Tell me, where did the blood come from? Did magical knomes come out and pour it there? Or did the flashbang somehow suck it out of them? It's NOT a flashbang.

  • 04.26.2004 3:50 PM PDT
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LMAO, it was right next to all of them, are you blind?

And you cant hear when the flashbang goeso ff the flash is what blinds you, duh.

And the IGN write up isntwhat bungie said its what they thought. Just opinions. Like you and me one of us is wrong and one of us is right.

Why dont you stop, most of your ides can be proven wrong.

  • 04.26.2004 3:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lord Folken
Did you think that the grenades might be updated??? The grenades in Halo 1 cause the same amount of damage anywhere in their blast radius, you can stand right on it or be 5 feet away, it does the same amount. Halo 2 is supposed to be more realistic, maybe damage is greater towards the center of the blast now.


That's my guess anyway....I also think they're doing pixel-by-pixel damage with the guns. So instead of having damage done to an area around the chief, it's only the exact pixels that are the chiefs model. You have to be more accurate that way.

  • 04.26.2004 3:52 PM PDT
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Idiot, flashbangs are very loud, they affect sight and hearing, hence the name flashBANG. Learn what a flashbang is before you make a thread about it.

  • 04.26.2004 3:53 PM PDT
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yeah um flash= blinding bang=deaf

  • 04.26.2004 3:55 PM PDT
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Yet they make no sound? Odd....

  • 04.26.2004 3:56 PM PDT
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Ok, this settles it havoc. I'm gonna be mature here, and not call you any names, or laugh at you. I just went and re-watched the video, and here's my conclusion, and why. If you go to 4:31-4:32 in the video, you can SEE the explosion around the corner. And if that's not enough, you can listen to the truth. Once the marine says whatever he says (whether or not you believe it was "frag and clear") you see the grenade fly by, you hear it explode, and no gunshots until you're around the corner. Before you hear gunshots, you see blood everywhere. Please just listen to this. If you still want to believe it's a flashbang, that's your problem. But I sincerely believe it's not.

  • 04.26.2004 3:57 PM PDT
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Id like you to awnser this one question:


When the so called "fragmentation gernade" exploded right next to the grunts and jackal it didnt send them flying?

Dont tell me it wasnt close to them because it was in a close corrider where any frag gernade would have blown them away.

Its a flash bang NOT a frag gernade.

  • 04.26.2004 3:58 PM PDT
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jharbst thank you for actually watching the video, it seems like Havoc hasn't seen it for quite a long time...

  • 04.26.2004 3:58 PM PDT
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jharbst, do you see what I mean now about people being too stupid to even be worth arguing with? lol

  • 04.26.2004 3:59 PM PDT
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Lord Farklien when did i say it makes no sound? I said it makes the sound of a flashbang NOT a frag gernade, and other person it doesnt explode around the corner it explodes right in the little passage way.

  • 04.26.2004 4:00 PM PDT
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Did you read my previous post and watch the given time on the video? This is why you make me mad, you just keep shouting your opinion and refuse to look at the only source of info we have, the video. If you look at that time, you can see the explosion. And if it were a flashbang, and flashbangs did work based on the light emitted. The marines would've been effected too, they were standing in the open. Just stop, there was blood EVERYWHERE! Not even a remote possibility that it was a flashbang.

Jesus Christ, you dense bastard. Watch the -blam!- video.

[Edited on 4/26/2004 4:01:59 PM]

  • 04.26.2004 4:01 PM PDT
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Lol, lord -blam!-klien your one of the stupidest dumbass on the face of this earth. Why cant you face that you suk and that you are wrong?

  • 04.26.2004 4:01 PM PDT
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they shuld use it because just think throw it at a camper it makes their screen go white, u pop up shot to the head

kick ass if u ask me

  • 04.26.2004 4:02 PM PDT
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DUDE, the marines and the MC looked away from the explosion duh, and the blood wasnt EVERYWHERE as you put it it was in spots under them.

  • 04.26.2004 4:02 PM PDT
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That's why this is a pointless argument Havoc. Because you refuse to be wrong. I don't think you could possibly still believe it's a flashbang if you looked at all the evidence and facts. You just continue to be a bastard, just for the sake of irritating others. You're worthless scum, and a discrace to all things Bungie.

Again, WATCH THE VIDEO!!!

[Edited on 4/26/2004 4:04:20 PM]

  • 04.26.2004 4:03 PM PDT
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And I did watch the movie twice while posting so stfu. If im shouting my opinion what are you doing?

I hate -blam!-tards like you.

  • 04.26.2004 4:04 PM PDT

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