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Its a trap!!!

Sorry if its been done on reach forum but here goes. I will try to tackle the ones that can be realistically change. Xbox live would have to change for the whole host BS where you get shot behind a wall so I will leave that annoying aspect out of it. The only way i can think of a fix for that is to somehow sync the host up with the entire room but I dont know as much about programming to comment on that.

so here is my list

1. Keeping a host with terrible connection for most of the game. I wish that if the host is starting to get less then a green bar then it should immediatly reassign the host. Dont make the whole game suffer because of one persons crap connection.

2. Sword dealing zero damage while lunging. I hate the sword when it has an epic fail

3. Certain areas where you shoot (especially snipe) on a map where your bullets dont come out almost like they are hitting a wall even though your reticule seems to be unobscured. An example that comes to mind are certain places on the sea wall on Last Resort.

4. If I have a lower angled shot on someone higher and I hit their arm or gun which travels throught their body and hits their head...it should be a headshot realistically instead of counting as a body shot. Especially considering the sniper can travel through multiple people.

5. Adding a veto to gametypes so you dont have to get rid of a map you like. I know its an add but it would really make things better and only take up a few extra seconds in the pregame lobby.

6. Laser not destroying a vehicle when cleanly hit or only taking sheilds down instead of killing your opponent.

7. Reseting the host or changeing host erasing your spree and starting you from scratch. Ive seen a few accounts on bungie who have a ranked perfection but not a ranked running riot

8. Medal overload. I wanted to make a montage and I have a killtac in snipes i got my tripple kill and then i got a double headshot which gave me 2 snipe medals, snipe spree, kill spree, overkill, killtacular. But on the vid it overloads and you only see the overkill medal plus the voice says the medals backwards. I would just like to see the last spree medal so people wont get confused and wonder if i really killed the second person in the double headshot.

9. Flag dissapearing out of your hand. I dont know if its just due to extreme lag but i hate running with the flag to only find that it disapeared from my hands and magically reappeared at the enemy base. Actually i cant think of a good reason for this... it shouldnt happen.

10. I dont complain about elites since I think their bulky bodies makes up for them having a harder back headshot but i cant stand that they have intangible necks that you can even throw grenades through. I dont like fighting a technical floating head.

[Edited on 08.19.2009 2:17 AM PDT]

  • 08.19.2009 1:37 AM PDT
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my gt is Godzillla....i just didnt link it properly

i like your number 4


some of these seem like bug issues and what not which i think will be addressed

  • 08.19.2009 1:47 AM PDT

Its a trap!!!

Posted by: GodZillla
i like your number 4


some of these seem like bug issues and what not which i think will be addressed


I know a lot are probably bugs. I know bungie didnt intend for the sword to fail at times. Its a shame i just resort to melee now and use the lunge as last resort if I am not close enough

but I am sure the new game will have bugs. All games have them I just hope it will be less this time

  • 08.19.2009 2:15 AM PDT

Posted by: Madara Umezawa
Sorry if its been done on reach forum.

Every few days, but thats ok.

  • 08.19.2009 2:52 AM PDT

If my purpose in life is to be hated, then I'll make a great boss

Exept that all the games are rated TEEN, or in the UK 15+
so no 10-12 year olds with high voices and tantrums

  • 08.19.2009 4:40 AM PDT
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I agree with all your points. I want Halo: reach to be the best Halo game.

  • 08.19.2009 4:51 AM PDT

Steven

I think social playlists should match teams up based on peoples highest rank, not their playlist experience. Ive been in countless games inwhich several random brigadiers/generals get matched up against random lower levels.

  • 08.19.2009 8:03 AM PDT

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

ODST;MYTHIC Screenshot winner! One of the first to get their hands on the mythic map pack.

Posted by: Madara Umezawa
1. Keeping a host with terrible connection for most of the game. I wish that if the host is starting to get less then a green bar then it should immediatly reassign the host. Dont make the whole game suffer because of one persons crap connection.
Reach may not be host based game, instead it might be handled with dedicated servers, we don't know.

2. Sword dealing zero damage while lunging. I hate the sword when it has an epic failWell, if you lunge and they turn the corner, you bounce off the corner and miss your opponent, resulting in damage. Very rarely does it do no damage. Besides, it is a one hit kill weapon, stop complaining about it.

3. Certain areas where you shoot (especially snipe) on a map where your bullets dont come out almost like they are hitting a wall even though your reticule seems to be unobscured. An example that comes to mind are certain places on the sea wall on Last Resort.I can think of another place where this happens, The Pit, up n sniper tower, through the gaurd. Realistically, even though your reticule may be on an opponent, your sniper is blocked by the gaurd. Don't pick a spot where there is a lot of cover that may stopyour bullet.

4. If I have a lower angled shot on someone higher and I hit their arm or gun which travels throught their body and hits their head...it should be a headshot realistically instead of counting as a body shot. Especially considering the sniper can travel through multiple people.Where it hits on someone is where the hit is registered.

5. Adding a veto to gametypes so you dont have to get rid of a map you like. I know its an add but it would really make things better and only take up a few extra seconds in the pregame lobby.I agree.

6. Laser not destroying a vehicle when cleanly hit or only taking sheilds down instead of killing your opponent.
Again, usually it is a 1 hit kill weapon. If it it hits 2 warthogs beside each other with 3 people in each, you can get a killtrocity, but you can't complain if it has a margin of error.

7. Reseting the host or changeing host erasing your spree and starting you from scratch. Ive seen a few accounts on bungie who have a ranked perfection but not a ranked running riotYeah, it makes me angry too, but this may stop with Reach because of dedicated servers, I don't know. But what else can you do about it, it was only a spree, no big deal.

8. Medal overload. I wanted to make a montage and I have a killtac in snipes i got my tripple kill and then i got a double headshot which gave me 2 snipe medals, snipe spree, kill spree, overkill, killtacular. But on the vid it overloads and you only see the overkill medal plus the voice says the medals backwards. I would just like to see the last spree medal so people wont get confused and wonder if i really killed the second person in the double headshot.If you are making a montage, take a seperate clip, or clips showing different angles of your kills. Simple, no confusion there. Do you want your screen cover with 20 medals, that maybe obscure your view?

9. Flag dissapearing out of your hand. I dont know if its just due to extreme lag but i hate running with the flag to only find that it disapeared from my hands and magically reappeared at the enemy base. Actually i cant think of a good reason for this... it shouldnt happen.This has never happened to me. If it is after a blackscreen, then maybe. But, other then that, I don't know what you are talking about.

10. I dont complain about elites since I think their bulky bodies makes up for them having a harder back headshot but i cant stand that they have intangible necks that you can even throw grenades through. I dont like fighting a technical floating head.I agree.

  • 08.19.2009 8:32 AM PDT

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

ODST;MYTHIC Screenshot winner! One of the first to get their hands on the mythic map pack.

Posted by: melanieadu
i think that when you win a game you should get 20 xp and losing would give no xp but you would get exp for getting medals and stuff. if it was like this you wouldnt be wasting your time sitting through a game that you know your gunna lose. Halo 3 matchmaking isnt based on how good you are, its based on how good your team is. if you do lose in this new xp system at least you get something. also the exp systen would be different so youd have to get 100,000 xp to be a general like inn red faction guerilla matchmaking
See but then the rank of General isn't aqquired through actual skill, it is aqquired through how much you play the game.

The rank General wouldn't mean anything. It is like the new EXP progression system. I have seen a highest skill level 9 player, in a playlist that is a general. He had about 4000+ games played, and only like 1500+/- wins. 1/3 of which were in this playlist.

No skill, just how much he has been playing the game. I think that getting to General status actually takes skill in Halo 3. Not as much as it did in Halo 2, but still it is better then an EXP rank system.

  • 08.19.2009 8:36 AM PDT

SPIKEY KITTEN! I WILL TEAR YOU APART WITH MY ENERGY SWORD OF DOOOM! Have a nice day.

ALOT of these are simply lag. However i do find the floating head thing funny.

  • 08.19.2009 8:40 AM PDT

LW45 TS40 TO40 TSW35 TSN35 TT30 SB30 MLG25

Nice title.

  • 08.19.2009 8:53 AM PDT

Its a trap!!!

Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Posted by: Madara Umezawa
1. Keeping a host with terrible connection for most of the game. I wish that if the host is starting to get less then a green bar then it should immediatly reassign the host. Dont make the whole game suffer because of one persons crap connection.
Reach may not be host based game, instead it might be handled with dedicated servers, we don't know.

2. Sword dealing zero damage while lunging. I hate the sword when it has an epic failWell, if you lunge and they turn the corner, you bounce off the corner and miss your opponent, resulting in damage. Very rarely does it do no damage. Besides, it is a one hit kill weapon, stop complaining about it.

3. Certain areas where you shoot (especially snipe) on a map where your bullets dont come out almost like they are hitting a wall even though your reticule seems to be unobscured. An example that comes to mind are certain places on the sea wall on Last Resort.I can think of another place where this happens, The Pit, up n sniper tower, through the gaurd. Realistically, even though your reticule may be on an opponent, your sniper is blocked by the gaurd. Don't pick a spot where there is a lot of cover that may stopyour bullet.

4. If I have a lower angled shot on someone higher and I hit their arm or gun which travels throught their body and hits their head...it should be a headshot realistically instead of counting as a body shot. Especially considering the sniper can travel through multiple people.Where it hits on someone is where the hit is registered.

5. Adding a veto to gametypes so you dont have to get rid of a map you like. I know its an add but it would really make things better and only take up a few extra seconds in the pregame lobby.I agree.

6. Laser not destroying a vehicle when cleanly hit or only taking sheilds down instead of killing your opponent.
Again, usually it is a 1 hit kill weapon. If it it hits 2 warthogs beside each other with 3 people in each, you can get a killtrocity, but you can't complain if it has a margin of error.

7. Reseting the host or changeing host erasing your spree and starting you from scratch. Ive seen a few accounts on bungie who have a ranked perfection but not a ranked running riotYeah, it makes me angry too, but this may stop with Reach because of dedicated servers, I don't know. But what else can you do about it, it was only a spree, no big deal.

8. Medal overload. I wanted to make a montage and I have a killtac in snipes i got my tripple kill and then i got a double headshot which gave me 2 snipe medals, snipe spree, kill spree, overkill, killtacular. But on the vid it overloads and you only see the overkill medal plus the voice says the medals backwards. I would just like to see the last spree medal so people wont get confused and wonder if i really killed the second person in the double headshot.If you are making a montage, take a seperate clip, or clips showing different angles of your kills. Simple, no confusion there. Do you want your screen cover with 20 medals, that maybe obscure your view?

9. Flag dissapearing out of your hand. I dont know if its just due to extreme lag but i hate running with the flag to only find that it disapeared from my hands and magically reappeared at the enemy base. Actually i cant think of a good reason for this... it shouldnt happen.This has never happened to me. If it is after a blackscreen, then maybe. But, other then that, I don't know what you are talking about.

10. I dont complain about elites since I think their bulky bodies makes up for them having a harder back headshot but i cant stand that they have intangible necks that you can even throw grenades through. I dont like fighting a technical floating head.I agree.


tust me i know why all these things happen

I also had points where i did a straight lunge no turns and it still failed. I know the sniper registers when first hit but the reason i posted was for it to change to make it a little more practicle. I do think in terms of gameplay if nothing obscures your reticule it should work if not they should fix what you see in your reticule... fair enough i would say

as for the medal overload i dont want to see a million medals just the greatest one in succession. But when it overloads it will do the medals backwards it will sometimes say killtac first then over kill second and same with the medal icons on the bottom of your screen. Once game i got a trip laser and didnt even realize it it happen so fast and all i saw was double kill. But i saw the medals in the post game lobby and watched the vid... i did indeed get a tripple.

And finally i am so glad the flag thing didnt happen to you and I hope it never does i can count 3 times (no black screen) well since the game came out in 2007 i guess it doesnt happen too often. I just hate that 1 out of those 3 times it actually cost me the game

[Edited on 08.19.2009 10:47 AM PDT]

  • 08.19.2009 10:46 AM PDT

Tallahassee?
I spent two weeks in Tallahassee one night.

Also on the veto game type it should wait to load the map till after people veto so if it does get vetoed you dont have to reload a new map.

  • 08.19.2009 11:01 AM PDT

Posted by: Madara Umezawa
Posted by: GodZillla
i like your number 4


some of these seem like bug issues and what not which i think will be addressed


I know a lot are probably bugs. I know bungie didnt intend for the sword to fail at times. Its a shame i just resort to melee now and use the lunge as last resort if I am not close enough

but I am sure the new game will have bugs. All games have them I just hope it will be less this time


The sword fails are due to lag. I think I've only had it a few times in Halo 3, but in Halo 2, during the days of Standby, before the coming of the Banhammer, it was really annoying. Map geometry also messes with the lunge.

Perfect Dark Zero switches host while you are playing, and you can keep playing while it's switching host. They should communicate with Rare.

[Edited on 08.19.2009 11:17 AM PDT]

  • 08.19.2009 11:11 AM PDT

LAAAAAGGGG!!! biggest problem by far

  • 08.19.2009 11:45 AM PDT

Do you really care? you can't automatically see my signature anyway.

5. Adding a veto to gametypes so you dont have to get rid of a map you like. I know its an add but it would really make things better and only take up a few extra seconds in the pregame lobby.

This could totally work imagine your in the game lobby "X" could veto the gametype, "A" could veto all ("A's" current function, selcting service records, could be switched to the select button since you can't look at post-carnage records in a new game lobby) and "B" could veto the map, since you can't back out of gamelobby without going to the dashboard.

  • 08.21.2009 12:19 PM PDT