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Subject: Halo Reach, common questions, and smart guesses *edited 1 for moar*
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I'll start with a FAQ about what we know for sure (all official and confirmed informations, just google what you need up if you don't believe me) :



What kind of game is Reach?
So far, we know it's a FPS. We don't know if it'll include classes, perks or strategy aspects, but we can assume it won't (for one simple reason : you don't fix when it's not broken. H3 is one of the most played game on the 360 at that time).


What's the story?
We know for sure it is PREQUEL. Prequel means BEFORE... and in that case, the game takes place before Halo CE (a few days before to be exact). We have no infos on the storyline yet.
Forget time traveling.


Is Reach a stand alone game, sold on a separate disk, or an addon like ODST?
no, it is not an extension like ODST. It is a brand new game.


Does Reach use a new graphic engine?
Yes, according to Bungie, an AAA engine that'll be the base for future Halo games.
Reach will be Microsoft's response to KZ2 graphics, so expect a good looking game.


When's the game released?
Fall 2010.


When is the beta?
Unknown.




That's all we know for sure about Reach.
below are speculations with heavy thoughts and evidences :


Is Reach Halo 4?
No. it'd actually be Halo 0.5 (Halo 0 being Halo Wars).

Is Reach the VERY LAST Halo game?
NO. it's Bungie's last Halo game for some time. let me explain:
Halo belongs to M$, and the game has been developed by Bungie AND Microsoft Game Studio, since the very first Halo game.
Recently, M$ created a new studio called "343 Industries" in charge of everything related to Halo. That studio has a few former Bungie employees in it, like a sub Bungie studio.

So, this means more Halo games will follow (Including, but not limited to : Halo Wars 2, Halo 4)


Will it support Natal?
Unknown, but unlikely. unless you can LITERALLY run around in your room, duck, and jump 10 feet in the air, etc.
Halo has always been a competitive game. MLGers wouldn't like it....
HOWEVER this doesn't exclude the fact some things might be compatible with Natal.
In any case, we'll know when the beta comes.


Will there be a BR?
In a canon point of view, the BR existed even before Reach was attacked. Johnson uses one on Harvest (that colony was attacked before Reach), so they DO indeed exist.
So it is likely the BR will be in Reach, for various reason :


games need a weapon set or else they're incomplete and unbalanced. These are the must have guns : shotgun for extra close range (we'll have one for sure), short-mid range weapon (AR/smg), mid-long range weapon (BR/HCE pistol), and sniper rifle.
remove one of these and the game will be unbalanced (without BRs, snipers will own anybody, without short-mid weapon, shotguns rules, etc).

SO... this means either the BR or HCE magnum will be in the game.


NO BR! why wouldn't they put the magnum instead?
The magnum was an OP pistol that wasn't supposed to be this strong in the first place. that's why they never put it again in any of the next Halo games.
plus, in a realistic point of view... a pistol that's better than a RIFLE? Halo is supposed to be realistic (somewhat). Feel free to disagree... but everybody wanted it back in H3... it didn't come back.


But bungie wants to add a Halo CE feeling to the game!
NO, we have no official proof of what you just said. nor any unofficial proof.


Will we fight elites in sp instead of brutes? what about mp?
First, sp : YES.
In H2, we learn that an ELITE was in charge of the attack (he'd later become the arbiter).
now, we know Brutes and Elites aren't friends at all. I seriously doubt that a brute would obey his arch enemy. Plus, there wasn't mention of brutes in the novels.
We MIGHT fight brutes too, but not only them, and they'll be a minor enemy (like, specops teams).

Then, mp : Elites, most likely / Brutes, I doubt.
Elites : Bungie has acknowledged it, they're an all time favorite of players. removing a character model would be 1 - stupid, 2 - a step backwards (removing variety), 3- frustrating to many people (me and elite fans included).
Brutes : Nobody likes em. not rechargeable shields. bigger than elites. enough said. (if you're one of the 13 people that like brutes... then, good for you.)


does that mean the spectre will be back!? (the elite warthog, replaced by the prowler)
most likely, yes. and there won't be a prowler since, in theory, there won't be *many* brutes...


Will there be new armors? will Elites and Spartans FINALLY be equal in ALL aspects?
new armors : likely.
equality : let's hope so... finally.


WILL THERE BE HAYABUSA? OR A NEW RECONZ?
hayabusa : NO. it was an easter egg implemented because Team Ninja put a Spartan in their last DoA game.
Recon : I hope not. Bungie has seen how people behave (hacks, scams, etc) and hopefully not do the same mistake again.


What about Brute weapons? and the Spartan laser?
Brute weapons : they'll be used by the few brutes you fight. if you fight any.
Spartan laser : We don't know when it was invented/created first...(Halo Wars is NOT canon!!! Spartans werent supposed to have shields back then...) so it might be there. or not. We can't kow.


Speaking of HW ... what about their vehicles!!?
locust = mini scarab. it'd be OP... unless it's slow and as fragile as a mangoose. but then whats the point unless you have a team to protect you?
Grizzly - scorpions are extremely powerful already... add more armor and a second canon and you'd be unstoppable.
Hawk - hornets are already OP. add more armor AND laser guns that do more damage than gauss. enough said.
Vulture - flying tanks? I'd rather have pelicans.
Vampire - AA only vehicle. it's only purpose would be killing other air vehicles... it sucks.
Gremlin - The only vehicle that could work. It's like a giant plasma pistol on wheels, good against vehicles only.
Cyclops - they run slower than a spartan, are less resistant, cant jump or use grenades or weapons, can only melee. forget it.
Cobra - Same problem as Vampire. it's like a gauss tank.


What's the story?
almost 100% sure : We'll be spartans, defending Reach. NOT ODSTS NOR MC THAT IS TIME TRAVELLING.
Reach was the home of spartans... it'd be stupid not to do something fans have always requested : multiple spartans at one time plus epic battles. the setting allows it.
*possible spoiler right below*
Halo.fr (French Halo fansite... the biggest one tbh) claimed to have exclusive informations. according to them, the game would follow the TWO novels : FoR AND First Strike. SO, half of the game could be you defending the power stations of the MACs, and half of the game, you not dieing in the CASTLE (ONI's base).


Will we play as spartans?
More than very likely. Read what's above.


Will there be *shivers* Floods? and a Halo ring?
No! no Floods. they were first discovered by the SoF in HW, but the ship was never recovered... so the first official contact with Floods were on Halo.

That's right, no Floods, AT ALL. Unless you also play as covenants or whatever, like in H2.


and most likely no ring either. the PoA fleed, following Cortana's directives from a crystal found on Cote d'Azur, a planet glassed by Covenants. nobody thought about doing such a thing before.


Will there be new weapons/vehicles?
Unknown, no way to tell. But I guess so.


Will we play as covenants again like in H2?
Unknown.


Will there be drones?
Unknown.


Engineers?
Unknown.


Jackals? Grunts? Hunters?
Of course.




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Will there be a Firefight mode?
Extremely likely. seeing that every shooters now have one (ODST, Gears of Wars 2, CoD5, probably MW2 too).
plus, since ODST have it, it'd be a step backwards not to implement it in Reach.


Will there be a Forge mode?
More than likely. see answer above.


Will we see MC's face?
Unknown.


Will we play as MC?
Unknown.


Will MC be somewhere in the game?
Unknown, but it's a lot more than likely.


Is the far left character in the banner an elite?
No. look at his legs : they're human.


Are all characters in the banner humans? Spartans?
Yes, all humans.
Most likely all spartans, since Reach is known for the loss of almost all Spartans.


Will there be a combat knife?
Unknown, but unlikely. why? shields + indestructible armor > knife or machete.


Will there be dual wielding?
Yes. Humans didn't invent the custom of using 2 guns at the same time between HCE and H2. it wasn't in HCE because Bungie didn't think about it / it wasn't common in fps games back then.



Feel free to ask any other question on your mind :l
thanks.

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  • 08.19.2009 8:50 AM PDT
Subject: Halo Reach, what we know, and what we can guess
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What's the story?
We know for sure it is PREQUEL. Prequel means BEFORE... and in that case, the game takes place before Halo CE (a few days before to be exact). We have no infos on the storyline yet.
Forget time traveling.

Is Reach a stand alone game, sold on a separate disk, or an addon like ODST?
no, it is not an extension like ODST. It is a brand new game.

mabye the story will start when the whole thing began, like when john first comes 2 the UNSC....or maybe they'll make that part like a cenimatic ant it will be like a "20 years later..." kind of thing.

and...odst isnt an addon, its actually a new game, it has 2 disks.













  • 08.19.2009 10:56 AM PDT
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you've messed up the quote XD

ODST IS an extension of H3. it's not a full game.
all it has is FF and a (shortish) campaign... the rest of the game (MM, forge, cinema, etc) is from H3.

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Nice thread z0rgy and I agree with the fact that the Halo 1 Magnum wasn't supposed to be powerful in the first place.

  • 08.19.2009 11:09 AM PDT

Underwater Eagle.

that's pretty good, but keep in mind that the PoA took 14 months to reach the first Halo, not a few days.

  • 08.19.2009 11:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: bubba tubba 48
that's pretty good, but keep in mind that the PoA took 14 months to reach the first Halo, not a few days.


uhm, it didn't take MORE THAN a year.......

the first halo was destroyed in September 23, 2552
Reach was attacked in august the same year.

[Edited on 08.19.2009 11:24 AM PDT]

  • 08.19.2009 11:23 AM PDT

Underwater Eagle.

i could easily be wrong on that one. maybe it was hours. I feel embarrassed now.

  • 08.19.2009 11:27 AM PDT

i say the likelyness of:
drones is at 80%
enginers are at 40%
flood at 17%
play as covy: likely as vs. Bungie in BVW
play as brtues in MP: 50% (not in beta prob)
new guns:110%
New vechecles in SP: 50%+
New vechicles is MP: 50%-

[Edited on 08.19.2009 11:33 AM PDT]

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Posted by: General lou2
i say the likelyness of:
play as brtues in MP: 50% (not in beta prob)


it'll depends....
brutes are not in sp :
they won't make a new model only for mp.


brutes are in sp :
nobody likes them... so I guess it'd be less than 50%.

  • 08.19.2009 12:31 PM PDT
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Win thread is win. One interesting question is what Elites will be like. Beastly, like in Halo: CE, or those things that we're stuck with in Halo 3.

  • 08.19.2009 12:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: scotsoe
Win thread is win. One interesting question is what Elites will be like. Beastly, like in Halo: CE, or those things that we're stuck with in Halo 3.


to be completely honest... I didn't notice any real difference between the 3 halo games.
I mean, except the fact they talk english now and their armor have changed a lot (biggest change being the glowing spots on their arms and legs disappearing).

I think they'll either look like Halo 2's elites, or Halo 3's... not HCE.
HCE was the first game of the trilogy... and most importantly, the BASE of the trilogy. think of it as a scrap or a warmup, they've worked on what elites should really look like more now, and their image in H2/H3 is closer to what they actually are supposed to look like.

with a bit of luck... we'll have graphically updated H2 elites. (the best ones imo).

  • 08.19.2009 1:05 PM PDT

I'm more than 75% sure that we will be playing as the following spartans OR a combination of the following. If i counted correctly on the poster for REACH, there are seven Spartans. I assume them to be:

John-117
Fred-104
Linda-058
William-043
Kelly-087
Adriana-111
Jai-006

If we are ignoring the events of Ghosts of Onyx, it is possible that Kurt-051 will make an appearance, but I doubt it.

  • 08.19.2009 1:33 PM PDT
Subject: Halo Reach, common questions, and smart guesses *edited 1 for moar*

It is my latest cultural research project! By randomly saying LOLWIN to semi-funny replies on the Halo 3 forum, I hypothesize that a temperary self-esteem boost will be present.

And once they read this, they will be a little worse off than before.

Posted by: z0rgy

Will it support Natal?
Unknown, but unlikely. unless you can LITERALLY run around in your room, duck, and jump 10 feet in the air, etc.
Halo has always been a competitive game. MLGers wouldn't like it....
HOWEVER this doesn't exclude the fact some things might be compatible with Natal.
In any case, we'll know when the beta comes.



Maybe it would be some good competition to see some MLG Players with physical skill.
It would involve a lot of re-drafting though.

  • 08.19.2009 1:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: z0rgy
Posted by: scotsoe
Win thread is win. One interesting question is what Elites will be like. Beastly, like in Halo: CE, or those things that we're stuck with in Halo 3.

to be completely honest... I didn't notice any real difference between the 3 halo games.
I mean, except the fact they talk english now and their armor have changed a lot (biggest change being the glowing spots on their arms and legs disappearing).
Well the Halo 3 ones were thicker... I guess they all got fat? And they also turned into hunchbacks... Much less badass looking.

CE Elite
Halo 3 Elite

Halo 3 Elite is so much less dignified with has hunch.

  • 08.19.2009 1:51 PM PDT
Subject: Halo Reach, common questions, and smart guesses *edited 1 for moar*

Posted by: z0rgy
Speaking of HW ... what about their vehicles!!?
locust = mini scarab. it'd be OP... unless it's slow and as fragile as a mangoose. but then whats the point unless you have a team to protect you?

More or less, a single shot from a Scorpion can take it down. If in the game, it would do more damage than the one in Halo Wars, as that one was toned down because a massed army of them would be too OP.

Grizzly - scorpions are extremely powerful already... add more armor and a second canon and you'd be unstoppable.
Hawk - hornets are already OP. add more armor AND laser guns that do more damage than gauss. enough said.

The Hawk's cannon is more powerful because it dosn't have homing missiles or side seats.

Vulture - flying tanks? I'd rather have pelicans.

A Vulture is extremely slow, and cant fire below it for 45 degrees.

Vampire - AA only vehicle. it's only purpose would be killing other air vehicles... it sucks.

It also has dual plasma cannons, like the Banshee, and a stasis cannon. And its main weapon is a heavy needler.

Gremlin - The only vehicle that could work. It's like a giant plasma pistol on wheels, good against vehicles only.

It also has a mounted spartan laser, and is extremely fragile.

Cyclops - they run slower than a spartan, are less resistant, cant jump or use grenades or weapons, can only melee. forget it.

They can jump, rip hunks off of vehicles, and run faster than a spartan if you upgrade them.

Cobra - Same problem as Vampire. it's like a gauss tank.

Seeing as the Gauss Warthog is one of the most complained about vehicles in Halo 3, and the Cobra has two gauss cannons, as well as being able to deploy and use a giant railgun, it would do well against infantary.

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the vamp's heavy needler turret and statis canon can only be fired at aircraft.

and I still think cyclops would be useless. maybe give marines cyclops armor... not spartans.
it'd be like yo dawg i herd u liek armors so we put a spartan in a cyclops so he has an armor while being in armor.

  • 08.19.2009 2:03 PM PDT
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Good thread, but this is something I would like to say:

Cannon makes great campaign, but terrible multiplayer. We should still have weapons and duel wielding, etc.

And besides, if you wanted a cannon based game, the Covenant weapons would completely obliterate human ones.

  • 08.19.2009 2:07 PM PDT
Subject: Halo Reach, common questions, and smart guesses *edited 1 for moar*
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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
We should still have weapons and duel wielding, etc.


humankind didn't invent dual wielding in 2550 .... it wasn't in HCE only because Bungie didn't think about adding it (because it wasn't popular in fps back then).

don't you worry, chances it's still here are 150%.

[Edited on 08.19.2009 2:34 PM PDT]

  • 08.19.2009 2:34 PM PDT

about the halo wars vehicles: you could just put them in forge for fun reasons




p.s I'm going to add you to my friends list z0rgy mwa ha ha


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  • 08.19.2009 2:52 PM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

Everything you say makes sense perfectly... I have no problems with what you have said or extrapolated (long word win!).
Fantastic post.

  • 08.19.2009 3:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: JaHawk2009
I'm more than 75% sure that we will be playing as the following spartans OR a combination of the following. If i counted correctly on the poster for REACH, there are seven Spartans. I assume them to be:

John-117
Fred-104
Linda-058
William-043
Kelly-087
Adriana-111
Jai-006

If we are ignoring the events of Ghosts of Onyx, it is possible that Kurt-051 will make an appearance, but I doubt it.
what about kurt-051 in novel "halo ghosts of onyx" before halo ce

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Posted by: JaHawk2009
I'm more than 75% sure that we will be playing as the following spartans OR a combination of the following. If i counted correctly on the poster for REACH, there are seven Spartans. I assume them to be:

John-117
Fred-104
Linda-058
William-043
Kelly-087
Adriana-111
Jai-006

If we are ignoring the events of Ghosts of Onyx, it is possible that Kurt-051 will make an appearance, but I doubt it.
what about kurt-051 in novel "halo ghosts of onyx" before halo ce


guys, I dunno about you two...but in the banner (and the high res poster I have saved) ... I can only count five silhouettes, not seven.

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Posted by: z0rgy
Posted by: V raptor
Posted by: JaHawk2009
I'm more than 75% sure that we will be playing as the following spartans OR a combination of the following. If i counted correctly on the poster for REACH, there are seven Spartans. I assume them to be:

John-117
Fred-104
Linda-058
William-043
Kelly-087
Adriana-111
Jai-006

If we are ignoring the events of Ghosts of Onyx, it is possible that Kurt-051 will make an appearance, but I doubt it.
what about kurt-051 in novel "halo ghosts of onyx" before halo ce


guys, I dunno about you two...but in the banner (and the high res poster I have saved) ... I can only count five silhouettes, not seven.
Yeah I just kind of ignored that post...

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Run or be sniped

well if we want to know we have to wait for the beta.

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