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Poll: What do you think about Vidmaster Acheivements requiring 4 player X...  [closed]
Absolutely!:  35%
(11 Votes)
Don't mind either way...:  45%
(14 Votes)
They should be available offline.:  19%
(6 Votes)
Total Votes: 31

The other day while browsing the web I saw what appears to be a list of achievements for Halo 3: ODST. (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Achievements)
I don't know whether it has been offically confirmed or not- or if the list is likely to change before release- but I was disappionted by the Vidmaster achievements: Vidmaster Challenge: Deja Vu and Vidmaster Challenge: Endure requiring Four Player Xbox Live to complete.

Many of my friends that I would like to play through to earn the achievements with, don't have access to Xbox live or a gold membership to play. I have managed to complete the Annual achievement- but the trouble of getting together again using a fast internet connection (I am talking about a fast, Australian internet connection too.) makes it more trouble than it's worth.
I am sure it's done for reasons of legitmacy, but surely Bungie can find way to create an offline proofing system for the achievements.

Why can't these acheivements be made to play over 4 player System link or LAN without a direct connection to LIVE? I know it would simplify the task of connecting a player to a group of friends in my situation (and with others I am sure). And will probably make the experience a lot more enjoyable without the risk of an internet connection dropping out or becoming slow.

[Edited on 08.19.2009 11:30 PM PDT]

  • 08.19.2009 11:29 PM PDT
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so if you want recon you need live. is what there trying to do

  • 08.19.2009 11:48 PM PDT
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Well, the vidmaster achievements are probably going to be unlocked for the sole purpose of unlocking Recon, right? Well, considering you can only use the Recon armor permutation online, doesn't that make sense?

  • 08.19.2009 11:52 PM PDT

Posted by: Rylite
Well, the vidmaster achievements are probably going to be unlocked for the sole purpose of unlocking Recon, right? Well, considering you can only use the Recon armor permutation online, doesn't that make sense?


While Recon is a nice prize, and yes, I will use the armour should I ever get. I also enjoy simply earning the acheivements. It is something to work for, and while getting the Vidmaster annual achievement was a lot of fun with my friends and was issue free- I think it would simply be easier to earn them if the option of system link was added- A four player, full length online playthrough with a gold membership just seems too complex and unnecceasry as there are many players out there who don't have access to a competent internet connection.

  • 08.20.2009 12:01 AM PDT
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The idea isn't to make it easy though, that's the point. Besides the fact, it should be common sense that one needs a reliable, fast internet connection to play online.

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Posted by: Rylite
Well, the vidmaster achievements are probably going to be unlocked for the sole purpose of unlocking Recon, right? Well, considering you can only use the Recon armor permutation online, doesn't that make sense?


While Recon is a nice prize, and yes, I will use the armour should I ever get. I also enjoy simply earning the acheivements. It is something to work for, and while getting the Vidmaster annual achievement was a lot of fun with my friends and was issue free- I think it would simply be easier to earn them if the option of system link was added- A four player, full length online playthrough with a gold membership just seems too complex and unnecceasry as there are many players out there who don't have access to a competent internet connection.


ya i know what you mean. maybe get some other Australian friends to do it with you?

  • 08.20.2009 12:03 AM PDT

That's the plan. As long as they don't have any trouble getting online and such.

  • 08.20.2009 12:11 AM PDT

Well considering the game is only a month away and those achievements are NOT confirmed, you don't have to raise hell yet.

  • 08.20.2009 12:32 AM PDT

Well you cant get recon without xbl, and you cat even get the update which adds those achievements without xbl either

  • 08.20.2009 12:36 AM PDT

I really enjoyed the previous Vidmaster achievements, namely Annual, it took 3 hours and 14 minutes and me, my wife and two buddies loved every minute. So, put simply, I do love the idea of Deja Vu, we already have plans to get together, the same four guys, and do it this round. And not only for Recon, that's just a plus, but it's great for the community and to really focus on teamwork and getting the job done, even if it means going through hell.

It was an enjoyable experience, but I can understand why it may cause some fuss. But no, I don't think it should have to be Lan or system link.

  • 08.20.2009 12:40 AM PDT

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if you need an aussie buddy to do the achievements with, ill help

  • 08.20.2009 12:57 AM PDT

My disk is scratched so now I cant load the level Halo.

Extremely pissed.

  • 08.20.2009 1:10 AM PDT

If people who didn't have live just wanted to do it for fun, not recon then...well....who cares about the achievement?

  • 08.20.2009 1:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Helllomoto
My disk is scratched so now I cant load the level Halo.

Extremely pissed.

Borrow a friend's disk, download to hard drive, use your disk to play it. Simple.

  • 08.20.2009 1:12 AM PDT

Join The Spartan I Project today!

SIP is here to help you achieve a 1750 gamer score, unlocking all of the armor permutations for both Spartans and Elites.

http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/sip/group/joingroup.aspx

It is possible to do it on system link, but if you want your reconz you will need live.

  • 08.20.2009 1:37 AM PDT

But there's no sense crying over every mistake.
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
And the Science gets done.
And you make a neat gun.
For the people who are still alive.

It's unfair for the people without live. I mean, even if you can't show recon off on live, you could show your friends? Plus, i love working for hard achievements.

  • 08.20.2009 1:40 AM PDT
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Firefight Matchmaker this may help you out on the achievements.

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Posted by: Rylite
Well, the vidmaster achievements are probably going to be unlocked for the sole purpose of unlocking Recon, right? Well, considering you can only use the Recon armor permutation online, doesn't that make sense?

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Posted by: VArAs22
Firefight Matchmaker this may help you out on the achievements.


Come on, everyone knows the game is already done and stuff.

  • 08.20.2009 3:09 AM PDT