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Subject: Why ODST is worth $60, but shouldn't cost $60.

Posted by: Go Vader
Uncharted for the PS3 was $60, but it only had campaign and I believe a few extras. Why is it that nobody whined about Uncharted's price, but when Halo 3: ODST, a game with a beefy campaign, Firefight, a Halo: Reach beta key, and all the bells and whistles of Halo 3 multiplayer, is instantly demonized for its $60 price tag?


I certainly wasn't complaining about Uncharted for the PS3 because I didn't want it. So there are probably many people who don't want it, so they don't complain about the price. The thing is that many people want ODST, but they don't think it should cost $60 so they complain.

  • 08.21.2009 5:13 PM PDT
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I hate Mlg.

Odst has the new free roam campaign, firefight, new guns and possibly new vehicles, still has fileshare and theater, brute plasma rifle, the new awesome pistol, the silenced smg AND it comes with the halo 3 matchmaking disk so your getting 2 disc for 60$ that sounds pretty fair to me...

O yeah and the freakin HALO: REACH BETA and RECON!

[Edited on 08.21.2009 5:18 PM PDT]

  • 08.21.2009 5:15 PM PDT

Smerious!

You have a point, but ODST is (in my understanding) going to be something very innovative to the Halo series and weather or not you complain about the price once you get the game you will be very happy. What I am saying is that sure it does not have more enhacments in then Halo 3 but one it will have is a totally new feel that you are sure to love! (I Hope)

  • 08.21.2009 5:17 PM PDT

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I love it... Rather than ignore a thread they all hate/disagree with, the self-proclaimed forum police come in and troll/flame the OP. Why are these forums like this? They are the worst gaming forums, even worse then the CoD ones, because of the people on them and absolute lack of moderation from Bungie. Does Bungie really care this little about their company? They can't even moderate a forum? Then again, if they did properly moderate it, at least half the people on here would be gone.

On Topic:
I completely agree with the OP. There's no way ODST should be $60. I don't feel it's going to be worth it, although this is contrary to the OP's point.
I know, you all like to use the excuse "there's all the maps on a disc and you don't need Halo 3 to play Halo 3 MM anymore."
Well, guess what guys, I ALREADY BOUGHT THE MAPS ON THAT DISC (except the final 3 of course). Why should I be forced to pay for them again? There should, at the very least, be a copy of ODST that only comes with the final 3 maps, as a download code, for the original price.

All Bungie is doing here is making us pay for content we already paid for. Is this how good business is run? Is this how they show they care about their customers?

EDIT: Since they refuse to fix the problems/bugs/glitches with MM... I guess this IS what Bungie considers to be good business and is their way of showing they care... By taking from us and never giving back. Is it too much to ask to have a properly working game? I guess since it's been over 2 years and they're still refusing to fix Halo 3, the answer is yes, and it's only gonna get worse.

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  • 08.21.2009 6:27 PM PDT

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i wanna get odst but idk how mulitplayer is. is it gonna be everyone with rockets and swords flying around or is it gonna be different? im most concerned about that and i dont have halo 3 but i have rented it. do i need to get halo 3 to play odst?

  • 08.21.2009 6:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: NightGlider764
with every halo 3 map on a different disc?? im pretty sure its worth the money
and bungie said that you dont need your old halo disc if you use the one with the maps and everything.so its like buying a new and improved halo 3 + halo 3 odst


As I said, Disc 2 cannot be included in the price tag.

  • 08.22.2009 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: mvm1119
i wanna get odst but idk how mulitplayer is. is it gonna be everyone with rockets and swords flying around or is it gonna be different? im most concerned about that and i dont have halo 3 but i have rented it. do i need to get halo 3 to play odst?


The multiplayer is going to be that of Halo 3; by most people's standards, one of the best multiplayer components of the current gen. And don't worry, it ain't all Rockets and Swords, regardless of what you may have experienced with your rental.

Oh, and you don't need to own Halo 3.

  • 08.22.2009 12:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: DemonI81
I love it... Rather than ignore a thread they all hate/disagree with, the self-proclaimed forum police come in and troll/flame the OP. Why are these forums like this? They are the worst gaming forums, even worse then the CoD ones, because of the people on them and absolute lack of moderation from Bungie. Does Bungie really care this little about their company? They can't even moderate a forum? Then again, if they did properly moderate it, at least half the people on here would be gone.

On Topic:
I completely agree with the OP. There's no way ODST should be $60. I don't feel it's going to be worth it, although this is contrary to the OP's point.
I know, you all like to use the excuse "there's all the maps on a disc and you don't need Halo 3 to play Halo 3 MM anymore."
Well, guess what guys, I ALREADY BOUGHT THE MAPS ON THAT DISC (except the final 3 of course). Why should I be forced to pay for them again? There should, at the very least, be a copy of ODST that only comes with the final 3 maps, as a download code, for the original price.

All Bungie is doing here is making us pay for content we already paid for. Is this how good business is run? Is this how they show they care about their customers?

EDIT: Since they refuse to fix the problems/bugs/glitches with MM... I guess this IS what Bungie considers to be good business and is their way of showing they care... By taking from us and never giving back. Is it too much to ask to have a properly working game? I guess since it's been over 2 years and they're still refusing to fix Halo 3, the answer is yes, and it's only gonna get worse.


Thankyou!

  • 08.22.2009 12:47 PM PDT

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ODST would have been $60 if it was only campaign and fire fight. You are a -blam!- idiot living in his mothers basement that is in denial that microsoft will charge for this game as much as they would for ANY OTHER F***ING GAME.

  • 08.22.2009 12:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheRealGuy77777
ODST would have been $60 if it was only campaign and fire fight. You are a -blam!- idiot living in his mothers basement that is in denial that microsoft will charge for this game as much as they would for ANY OTHER F***ING GAME.


Sorry? I understand how much Microsoft are charging for this game, and I understand that it might have been silly to assume that they wouldn't, but that doesn't prevent me from holding the opinion that it shouldn't cost full price, does it?

  • 08.22.2009 1:01 PM PDT

I am flatterd that you botherd to look at my signature.

ok..I respect your opinion..but I disagree with it..I understand your opinion (at least I hope I do)

somethings are worth more to others. one mans trash is another mans tresure so to speak.

ODST is veary much worth 60$ to me....It has all map packs not just three new ones so it has use to those like me who are unfortunate and cant play XBL and get the latest content..

  • 08.22.2009 1:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: Longsword049
ok..I respect your opinion..but I disagree with it..I understand your opinion (at least I hope I do)

somethings are worth more to others. one mans trash is another mans tresure so to speak.

ODST is veary much worth 60$ to me....It has all map packs not just three new ones so it has use to those like me who are unfortunate and cant play XBL and get the latest content..



Very good point. In fact, I agree that ODST is worth $60, otherwise I wouldn't be buying it! And I own all the map packs!

So, for somebody such as yourself, you doesn't own all the map packs, ODST is a great deal.

Still, it shouldn't cost $60, in the same way that a loaf of bread shouldn't cost $20.

  • 08.22.2009 1:20 PM PDT
Subject: Why ODST shouldn't cost $60.

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

You forgot Distribution (shipping trucks to retailers) and Production (CDs, CD cases, cover panels).

  • 08.22.2009 1:41 PM PDT
Subject: Why ODST is worth $60, but shouldn't cost $60.
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In my opinion, the game is worth $60, but the content included in ODST (including the second disc) is optimized for those who don't have LIVE, DLC maps, or don't have Halo 3 to begin with. I've said many times that ODST has enough content to warrant the price, but the amount of content isn't universal. It's not the same for everyone. I guess that the people at Microsoft thought that this audience (those who don't have DLC, e.t.c.) was large enough to warrant the price.

  • 08.22.2009 1:44 PM PDT
Subject: Why ODST shouldn't cost $60.

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If you need the money, get off your lazy ass and do some chores for your parents.

Bungie dosen't set the price, Microsoft does, so take it up with them.


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  • 08.22.2009 1:47 PM PDT
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YOU PAYED FOR THE MAP PACKS TO GET THEM EARLY!
What about games like prototype, shortish campaign, no online still costs $60/£40!!
The maps that come with the game are in the games price aswell, the dlc is additional, extra work from bungie, so you pay, accept you payed for them to get them before people with ODST get them. Would you have waited until ODST came out and only played social slayer without the map packs?

  • 08.22.2009 1:48 PM PDT

I like Halo, It kills all sentinel life with sufficient bio-mass... and doesn't afraid of anything.

although this is a very well thought out argument as to the price of ODST, I can also agree with others posting saying that this is a pointless price thread. I mean, everything you're saying is dead-on the mark, but it's a little late to make any changes, the game ships in a month, so forgot the price and enjoy it to it's fullest.

  • 08.22.2009 1:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Uncle Kulikov
You forgot Distribution (shipping trucks to retailers) and Production (CDs, CD cases, cover panels).


Aye. I only referred to 'observable' factors in the OP for that very reason; there are a number of factors that influence production cost that I am unaware of.

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Oh Christ you wrote the friggin Bible on $60 game? I started scrolling down your thread 10 years ago. You owe me a decade, mate!

  • 08.22.2009 1:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: LOLitsGeorge
YOU PAYED FOR THE MAP PACKS TO GET THEM EARLY!
What about games like prototype, shortish campaign, no online still costs $60/£40!!
The maps that come with the game are in the games price aswell, the dlc is additional, extra work from bungie, so you pay, accept you payed for them to get them before people with ODST get them. Would you have waited until ODST came out and only played social slayer without the map packs?


I paid for the maps once to play them early. Does that mean I should have to pay for them again?

Unless you view the second disc as a free bonus (in which case my original argument applies), your argument is flawed.

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  • 08.22.2009 1:51 PM PDT

ok first of all will all of you guys him a break. he didnt say OH NOEZ!!! ODST IS £35/$60 I MUSTNT BUY THIS!! all he said was that compared to games like the orange box, the game isnt very good value for money and you cannot deny that fact is true. second of all, i highly doubt ( as he said) that m$ would let valve release 5 games for the same price as bungie is realesing 1. bungie is a company just like any other. their goal is to make money. the have an amazing relationship with their community and they make great games dont get me wrong, but their goal is to make money. in the value of the game you CANNOT include the halo 3 maps as this is just warmed up left overs, nor can you include the reach beta. including an unfinished product in a game does not increase its value. so in short. GIVE THIS GUY A BREAK AND USE YOUR BRAINS!

  • 08.22.2009 1:54 PM PDT

double post...

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  • 08.22.2009 1:59 PM PDT

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ok first of all will all of you guys him a break. he didnt say OH NOEZ!!! ODST IS £35/$60 I MUSTNT BUY THIS!! all he said was that compared to games like the orange box, the game isnt very good value for money and you cannot deny that fact is true. second of all, i highly doubt ( as he said) that m$ would let valve release 5 games for the same price as bungie is realesing 1. bungie is a company just like any other. their goal is to make money. the have an amazing relationship with their community and they make great games dont get me wrong, but their goal is to make money. in the value of the game you CANNOT include the halo 3 maps as this is just warmed up left overs, nor can you include the reach beta. including an unfinished product in a game does not increase its value. so in short. GIVE THIS GUY A BREAK AND USE YOUR BRAINS!



sorry that was me on an old account

  • 08.22.2009 2:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Aljar09
Oh Christ you wrote the friggin Bible on $60 game? I started scrolling down your thread 10 years ago. You owe me a decade, mate!


Here you go.

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  • 08.22.2009 2:17 PM PDT
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Every brand new game for xbox 360 cost 60$!!!!!

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