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Subject: Halo: Reach - The Next Starting Weapon
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Posted by: BIGFT 13
the battle rifle wasn't around when Reach was fought.
god don't people pay attention to the games that the battle rifle only came out about the time that Halo 2 took place

god why are people so dumb. Your'e absolutely wrong.

  • 08.23.2009 7:33 AM PDT

I can haz MA5K?

  • 08.23.2009 7:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: BIGFT 13
the battle rifle wasn't around when Reach was fought.
god don't people pay attention to the games that the battle rifle only came out about the time that Halo 2 took place

god why are people so dumb. Your'e absolutely wrong.
QFT
I'm glad that some people actually read the books.

  • 08.23.2009 7:36 AM PDT

Again, this is NOT about any other gun. The BR, AR, and SMG are just mentioned to highlight past starting weapons. This thread is about the S-SMG being the next starting gun.

  • 08.23.2009 7:51 AM PDT
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I would welcome another starting weapon.

  • 08.23.2009 8:06 AM PDT

Yes, really

Posted by: BIGFT 13
the battle rifle wasn't around when Reach was fought.
god don't people pay attention to the games that the battle rifle only came out about the time that Halo 2 took place


i hope you're joking. BR was around before we even met the covenant. johnson used it in a training exercise on harvest a few days before the covies showed up.

  • 08.23.2009 8:27 AM PDT

EVERYONE DROP THE BATTLE RIFLE!

This thread is NOT about the BR, it is about a new weapon that could replace previouse weapons as starter weapons.

  • 08.23.2009 9:41 AM PDT
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ya i remember reading contact harvest where sergant johnson was owning all the covenant with the battle rifle. that was my favorite book of all the halo books.

  • 08.23.2009 10:12 AM PDT

My honor student can beat up your honor student.

Having played with the S-SMG, I'd have to say that it would be a good weapon for multiplayer. Why? Because it is a versatile close-medium range weapon that doesn't require too much knowledge to use, but has some setbacks ( recoil) that can be taken advantage of against the inexperienced enemy. Just take away the silenced part, and I'm okay with it as a starting weapon.

  • 08.23.2009 10:46 AM PDT

Posted by: MickelPickel
Having played with the S-SMG, I'd have to say that it would be a good weapon for multiplayer. Why? Because it is a versatile close-medium range weapon that doesn't require too much knowledge to use, but has some setbacks ( recoil) that can be taken advantage of against the inexperienced enemy. Just take away the silenced part, and I'm okay with it as a starting weapon.


Thanks for the post. It is good to have input by someone who has used it. I am going to post your feedback on the main post, just as a reference for people before they post.

  • 08.23.2009 11:01 AM PDT

your idea of having an smg is cool but i would like to see a longer barrel and a short range scope or iron sites. it wouldnt be able to put out as many rounds but the accuracy would compansate for this. the battle rifle should be a lot weaker same size magazine but 6 headshots to get a kill, if this isnt possible eradicate it completely and and bring back the halo ce pistol.

  • 08.23.2009 11:57 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: morenojj
your idea of having an smg is cool but i would like to see a longer barrel and a short range scope or iron sites. it wouldnt be able to put out as many rounds but the accuracy would compansate for this. the battle rifle should be a lot weaker same size magazine but 6 headshots to get a kill, if this isnt possible eradicate it completely and and bring back the halo ce pistol.
You mean the 3 shot kill high fire rate end all death weapon? nooo.

  • 08.23.2009 12:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

The MA5K Carbine from the novels would be perfect. Putting out a respectable 45 rounds with full automatic, and with an accuracy between the BR and the AR's range, it's got a lot going for it as a good starting weapon.

  • 08.23.2009 12:13 PM PDT

Posted by: CoolCJ24
The MA5K Carbine from the novels would be perfect. Putting out a respectable 45 rounds with full automatic, and with an accuracy between the BR and the AR's range, it's got a lot going for it as a good starting weapon.


yes it would be good, but I would also like to see a scoped starting weapon. Human automatic weapons tend to be "spray" weapons. Unless they change this, a scope seems to be a perfect way of extending its range, without making it overpowered.

  • 08.23.2009 3:55 PM PDT
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SPARTAN LASER, FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 08.23.2009 3:59 PM PDT

Caboose -1


It looks like a Puma?!?

God don't you read the books??ONI made the weapon and in the books they use it...........In the First Strike

  • 08.23.2009 4:04 PM PDT

Since Halo: Reach is new to the Halo games, I believe that the starting weapon needs to be something new that is only played in Halo: Reach. A nice noobish "spray n' pray" weapon gun has always served nice as a starter weapon. But it's necessary to balance the range and recoil, which is done with the S-SMG. So honestly I think Bungie's on the right track as it is.

[Edited on 08.23.2009 4:15 PM PDT]

  • 08.23.2009 4:14 PM PDT

Posted by: JackAttack222
Since Halo: Reach is new to the Halo games, I believe that the starting weapon needs to be something new that is only played in Halo: Reach. A nice noobish "spray n' pray" weapon gun has always served nice as a starter weapon. But it's necessary to balance the range and recoil, which is done with the S-SMG. So honestly I think Bungie's on the right track as it is.


So do you support the S-SMG as for Halo: Reach starter weapo, or are you saying you want something totally knew. The S-SMG would be new to competative multiplayer, but not new to Halo (as it makes an appearance in Halo 3: ODST).

  • 08.23.2009 5:02 PM PDT

Posted by: Pashto96
actually there was a prototype battle rifle in harvest which im pretty sure was before reach. So the Spartans most likely were allowed to use the prototyp BR


the only 2 or 3 were on Harvest, 1 for Johnson, 1 for Sgt. Byrne, and one for the Militia marksman guy (cant remember his name.)

  • 08.23.2009 5:05 PM PDT

I Love ODST. Nice game.

Combat Rifle. A rifle that is similar to the Assault Rifle but has very long range like the Battle Rifle but is a spray weapon not a burst weapon. Its like an AR and a BR mixed. Although very powerful, this weapon should have long reload time, short clips, and big redicule. Like the shotgun.

  • 08.23.2009 5:09 PM PDT

BOOM DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Start out with classes.

  • 08.23.2009 5:14 PM PDT

Garden City Freerunning

the S-SMG seems to be about as good as the BR or better. from what ive heard, the new SMG will be the Shizz. it seems to me that many weapons shall be tweaked for ODST. for instance in halo 3 multiplayer, it takes 1 shot from a sniper or 1 hit from melee to take out shields and 1 burst from a BR into the head to kill them. i would like to see a BR with less power and an option to switch from single to burst to fully automatic.

  • 08.23.2009 5:16 PM PDT

Garden City Freerunning

but the ablity to chose your weapons would be better. just light to dual-weildables, no heavy, i case you need it to complete am objective

  • 08.23.2009 5:34 PM PDT

Posted by: theboywayword
but the ablity to chose your weapons would be better. just light to dual-weildables, no heavy, i case you need it to complete am objective


This could be possible, but again, this thread is not about how other kinds of starting weapons could be used. It is to discuss the pros and cons for the S-SMG being used in Halo: Reach.

  • 08.24.2009 7:01 AM PDT

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