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Subject: Why there won't be Halo Wars vehicles
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ok guys, have you honestly thought it through? the game would suck with them. let me tell you what's wrong with each vehicle :

locust : mini scarab. because of it's legs, it can cross any obstacles (boulders and little cliffs) and basically go anywhere. add a sentinel beam to it and it's OP.
think of a Darkwalker from unreal tournament 3, but smaller and with infinite laser and with SHIELDS.

cobra : what is there to say? it's a gauss hog with as much health than a scorpion! gauss hog is OP, so give it more armor and be invincible.

wolverine & vamps : AA vehicles only. even if they have ground attacks, they still suck.

grizzly : super scorpion. unbalanced.

hawk : stronger hornet (and since a hornet is OP already...)

cyclops : slower than a spartan, no shields, can't use weapons or grenades, cant jump. you're better off walking.

gremlin : only vehicle that might work. it's like a giant plasma pistol on wheel.


thoughts?

  • 08.23.2009 7:53 AM PDT

Yes, really

search bar. 3rd thread today on this.

  • 08.23.2009 8:05 AM PDT
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funny because it's the first *I* have seen in the whole week.

link me to one? >.>

  • 08.23.2009 8:07 AM PDT

Yes, really

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=36092587
i dont feel like linking

  • 08.23.2009 8:12 AM PDT
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There's no reason they can't be in the game, just keep them out of matchmaking (except maybe on BTB maps where they might be needed). Give us the ability to place them in Forge, so we can put them on our maps.

They are like the Fuel Rod Gun and Incendiary Grenades.

  • 08.23.2009 8:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: napleonBlwnaprt
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=36092587
i dont feel like linking


you haven't even read a single word of the thread and obviously haven't even read the title correctly.
ITT : why HW would *NOT* be cool nor fair, so dont include them.
your link : please add HW vehicles.

:l

  • 08.23.2009 8:14 AM PDT

They could modify them slightly to balanceit out.

  • 08.23.2009 8:15 AM PDT

Posted by: sargent shade
They could modify them slightly to balanceit out.


exactly i think bungie can make the vehiles more balanced.

  • 08.23.2009 11:05 AM PDT

I like how he said the Cobra is basically a gauss hog.... ermm its frikin slow, pooh if its not locked down and the turret moves so slowly its not true.

  • 08.23.2009 11:10 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Ok, my thoughts...

locust : It will be slow and clunky to drive and fairly fragile compared to others, this is a good sacrifice for high power. Also EVERY VEHICLE HAS SHIELDS IN HALO FPS GAMES.

cobra : It is alot more fragile than a scorpion, has to lock down to reach full power, moves MUCH slower than either a scorpion OR a hog. It balances.

wolverine: The AA wraith is great against ground, why wouldn't this be?

vampire: So wait, needlers CANT kill infantry? is that what you are trying to tell me here? sorry, it would kick ass.

grizzly : Yeah, no, the Scorpion and the Grizzly are EXACTLY THE SAME, just the Grizzly is BETTER, I agree with this one.

hawk : Again yeah, why have a Hornet with a few tech upgrades, useless, just drive a Hornet, I agree too. No Grizzlys or Hawks.

cyclops : More of an infantry unit than vehicle anyway.

gremlin : gremlins would be cool I think.

vulture: (you forgot it) would be WAYY OP.

[Edited on 08.23.2009 11:14 AM PDT]

  • 08.23.2009 11:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
ok guys, have you honestly thought it through? the game would suck with them. let me tell you what's wrong with each vehicle :

locust : mini scarab. because of it's legs, it can cross any obstacles (boulders and little cliffs) and basically go anywhere. add a sentinel beam to it and it's OP.
think of a Darkwalker from unreal tournament 3, but smaller and with infinite laser and with SHIELDS.

cobra : what is there to say? it's a gauss hog with as much health than a scorpion! gauss hog is OP, so give it more armor and be invincible.

wolverine & vamps : AA vehicles only. even if they have ground attacks, they still suck.

grizzly : super scorpion. unbalanced.

hawk : stronger hornet (and since a hornet is OP already...)

cyclops : slower than a spartan, no shields, can't use weapons or grenades, cant jump. you're better off walking.

gremlin : only vehicle that might work. it's like a giant plasma pistol on wheel.


thoughts?
Well, you're looking at the vehicles individually. If they were all added, it would be well balanced game play. Look at Halo Wars, even with all the advantages you've listed for each vehicle, they all balance out in the end.

Besides, by your logic, the Scorpion tank should be downgraded, as it is quite superior to the wraith any day.

  • 08.23.2009 11:14 AM PDT

Tank beats everything!

Visit my youtube channel for Vehicular awesomeness!

A real Tank would be much more devastating, faster, and more heavily armored than a Scorpion. According to Halowiki and the Halo novels, one plasma blot from a Banshee can kill a person. The point is, Vehicles in Halo 3 are less powerful than they should be, for balance reasons. The same could be done to the Halo Wars vehicles in order to balance them.

  • 08.23.2009 11:19 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

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Posted by: z0rgy
ok guys, have you honestly thought it through? the game would suck with them. let me tell you what's wrong with each vehicle :

locust : mini scarab. because of it's legs, it can cross any obstacles (boulders and little cliffs) and basically go anywhere. add a sentinel beam to it and it's OP.
think of a Darkwalker from unreal tournament 3, but smaller and with infinite laser and with SHIELDS.

cobra : what is there to say? it's a gauss hog with as much health than a scorpion! gauss hog is OP, so give it more armor and be invincible.

wolverine & vamps : AA vehicles only. even if they have ground attacks, they still suck.

grizzly : super scorpion. unbalanced.

hawk : stronger hornet (and since a hornet is OP already...)

cyclops : slower than a spartan, no shields, can't use weapons or grenades, cant jump. you're better off walking.

gremlin : only vehicle that might work. it's like a giant plasma pistol on wheel.


thoughts?
Well, you're looking at the vehicles individually. If they were all added, it would be well balanced game play. Look at Halo Wars, even with all the advantages you've listed for each vehicle, they all balance out in the end.

Besides, by your logic, the Scorpion tank should be downgraded, as it is quite superior to the wraith any day.

Uhh, they are totally different vehicles, the Scorpion is a battle tank, the Wraith is an Artillery Vehicle, they serve VERY different purposes.

  • 08.23.2009 11:21 AM PDT

They act all big and tough when their on camera with their friends and their guns. But when you break into their house in the middle of the night and stick a gun barrel in their face. They cry like babies and and piss their pants.
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Posted by: Toa Freak
Posted by: z0rgy
ok guys, have you honestly thought it through? the game would suck with them. let me tell you what's wrong with each vehicle :

locust : mini scarab. because of it's legs, it can cross any obstacles (boulders and little cliffs) and basically go anywhere. add a sentinel beam to it and it's OP.
think of a Darkwalker from unreal tournament 3, but smaller and with infinite laser and with SHIELDS.

cobra : what is there to say? it's a gauss hog with as much health than a scorpion! gauss hog is OP, so give it more armor and be invincible.

wolverine & vamps : AA vehicles only. even if they have ground attacks, they still suck.

grizzly : super scorpion. unbalanced.

hawk : stronger hornet (and since a hornet is OP already...)

cyclops : slower than a spartan, no shields, can't use weapons or grenades, cant jump. you're better off walking.

gremlin : only vehicle that might work. it's like a giant plasma pistol on wheel.


thoughts?
Well, you're looking at the vehicles individually. If they were all added, it would be well balanced game play. Look at Halo Wars, even with all the advantages you've listed for each vehicle, they all balance out in the end.

Besides, by your logic, the Scorpion tank should be downgraded, as it is quite superior to the wraith any day.

Uhh, they are totally different vehicles, the Scorpion is a battle tank, the Wraith is an Artillery Vehicle, they serve VERY different purposes.


Tell me, who in Halo uses the wraith as artillery?
It's a tank, no other question about it.
P.S. I suggest that you change the title of your thread it shouldn't be "why their wont be halo wars vehicles" but "why their shouldn't be halowars vehicles".

[Edited on 08.23.2009 12:08 PM PDT]

  • 08.23.2009 12:06 PM PDT
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If the wolverines and Vampires suck, then why is there an AA wraith in Halo 3??(and it is possible to drive it)

  • 08.23.2009 4:35 PM PDT
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The grizzly tanks are BADASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 08.23.2009 4:37 PM PDT
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You forgot about the Vulture.

  • 08.23.2009 4:38 PM PDT


I would never play on a map with a Vulture, I would quit while in the lobby. The Vulture is WAY too powerful.

  • 08.23.2009 4:43 PM PDT

They probably won't be in due to story reasons too. If there were these vehicles in Halo Reach why wouldn't they be in Halo CE which takes place few days later.

There is no reason for them not to be in Multiplayer though. They would be cool in Forge.

  • 08.23.2009 4:52 PM PDT