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Subject: shotgun

this is sort of a rant about he shotgun and how i think it should be fixed in halo: reach

in most games once you get the shotgun you can start kickin ass. but not in halo. in halo you have to be at point blank range to get the shotguns one hit kill. you cant really run around with it because youll just get killed by some one who is out of your shotguns deadly range. the causes you to camp in the most close quarters area as possible so your opponents will be in your range. there is nothing wrong with camping. the camper is only using his shotgun in an area where it would be most effective. but the shot gun should not be a wimpy camper weapon. it should be an ass kickin weapon. to do this bungie should increase the the shotguns deadly range to at least 10 feet and 20 feet max. this would open up the areas where the shotgun could be used. this would make the shotgun the ultimate but unbalanced killing machine on most small and medium sized maps. so to balance it out the shot gun would have slower respawn times, limited ammo (6-8 rounds), slow to shoot, and would only have 4 rounds loaded at any given time.

so to sum up that paragraph the shotgun should have a longer one hit kill range so that it can actually be a decent weapon thats balanced. if you disagree with anthing i said then tell me why and how you think it should be fixed

  • 08.23.2009 9:02 PM PDT

Wow, just wow!

no.....can you say- ULTIMATE NOOB WEAPON

  • 08.23.2009 9:09 PM PDT

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in most games once you get the shotgun you can start kickin ass. but not in halo. in halo you have to be at point blank range to get the shotguns one hit kill.

Is Halo "most games"? No, it's Halo. Respect that, let Bungie do what they want with their game. It is theirs after all, not Infinity Wards, not 2k's, and definately not yours.

  • 08.23.2009 9:26 PM PDT
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Have you even played Halo: CE the shotgun is basically a sniper, i've killed elite from the top of the control room when they are on the bottom, its almost too good

  • 08.23.2009 9:30 PM PDT

Posted by: world_o_hurt
Have you even played Halo: CE the shotgun is basically a sniper, i've killed elite from the top of the control room when they are on the bottom, its almost too good

A shotgun is normally effective up to around 50 yards. In Halo, you'll be luck to kill someone in one shot within 5.

  • 08.23.2009 9:37 PM PDT

Posted by: BaMunki
in most games once you get the shotgun you can start kickin ass. but not in halo. in halo you have to be at point blank range to get the shotguns one hit kill.

Is Halo "most games"? No, it's Halo. Respect that, let Bungie do what they want with their game. It is theirs after all, not Infinity Wards, not 2k's, and definately not yours.


i say most games to carry over the point that the shotgun is universally a kick ass weapon but thats not how it is in halo. it should be though. i never said it was 2k's or any of there game developers. but it certainly is mine.i paid for the xbox and bungies games along with all there dlc even though they should be cool enough to have free dlc. i consider myself apart of the bungie community and its up to there fans to give them suggestions so they improve there games

  • 08.23.2009 11:23 PM PDT

There is a certain point of tolerance that should never be reached.

Well, to be honest I thought this was gonna be a rant about how you think the shotgun is OP.

The sniper is OP.

Instant kill from ANY range, and enough ammo to get 24 of those kills?

I call BS

Granted, it takes skill(an insane amount) yes, but I think I should be able to counter something with another.
And when a sniper beats a shotty at CQC, there is an issue IMO.

  • 08.23.2009 11:32 PM PDT

Posted by: lotrguy
I can say, from personal experience, that shotguns have a much longer range than in Halo. And this is 500 years in the future! A modern shot gun can be accurate to 100 ft easily.


not only that, its an 8 gauge shotgun meaning its more powerfull then the 12 gauge we have today. and just think of shot thats coming out of the shotgun. nasty jagged chunks of high grade scrap titanium blasting out breaking down shields and penetrating mjolnir armor

  • 08.24.2009 12:28 AM PDT

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Give us the Halo CE shotgun and we'll be fine. It works like a shotgun is supposed too.

  • 08.24.2009 12:30 AM PDT
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The shotgun should be more like the Halo 1 shotgun, except it should hold 6-8 shells instead of 12.

  • 08.24.2009 4:22 AM PDT
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Lol no.

  • 08.24.2009 4:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: BaMunki
in most games once you get the shotgun you can start kickin ass. but not in halo. in halo you have to be at point blank range to get the shotguns one hit kill.

Is Halo "most games"? No, it's Halo. Respect that, let Bungie do what they want with their game. It is theirs after all, not Infinity Wards, not 2k's, and definately not yours.


i say most games to carry over the point that the shotgun is universally a kick ass weapon but thats not how it is in halo. it should be though. i never said it was 2k's or any of there game developers. but it certainly is mine.i paid for the xbox and bungies games along with all there dlc even though they should be cool enough to have free dlc. i consider myself apart of the bungie community and its up to there fans to give them suggestions so they improve there games


By not yours I mean you don't make the game. Why don't you let Bungie make their game?

  • 08.24.2009 7:05 AM PDT

This kid's 14th in Europe. Don't even bother calling me bad.

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Posted by: Pyrotrain
no.....can you say- ULTIMATE NOOB WEAPON

  • 08.24.2009 8:51 AM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

If you increase the range of the shotgun, all medium range weapons will become redundant. AR and SMG would be destroyed everytime. The shotgun in Halo doesn't act like a proper shotgun because Bungie needed a weapon that was designed for close combat. The shotgun fills this role.

  • 08.24.2009 8:55 AM PDT

Agree, the shotgun is the UNSC's energy sword.

and since when did using a shotgun become a 'noob' weapon? come on guys if it was like that everyone would use a BR or Sniper rifle gos the involve skillz

OMG teh shtgone killz meh wat teh NOOBZ...... dont get that close then :D

  • 08.24.2009 8:58 AM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

Posted by: LorD LeMoN
Agree, the shotgun is the UNSC's energy sword.

and since when did using a shotgun become a 'noob' weapon? come on guys if it was like that everyone would use a BR or Sniper rifle gos the involve skillz

OMG teh shtgone killz meh wat teh NOOBZ...... dont get that close then :D

Exactly, Shotgun is only good at close range. You could beat a shotgun with a plasma pistol as long as you stay far enough away.

  • 08.24.2009 9:02 AM PDT
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The Halo CE shotgun was so OP why would you want it back?

  • 08.24.2009 9:04 AM PDT

Wow, just wow!

Posted by: LorD LeMoN
Agree, the shotgun is the UNSC's energy sword.

and since when did using a shotgun become a 'noob' weapon? come on guys if it was like that everyone would use a BR or Sniper rifle gos the involve skillz

OMG teh shtgone killz meh wat teh NOOBZ...... dont get that close then :D


i was implying it would be a noob weapon if it was as accurate as the carbine and still 1 hit kill

[Edited on 08.24.2009 9:07 AM PDT]

  • 08.24.2009 9:04 AM PDT

Posted by: LorD LeMoN
Agree, the shotgun is the UNSC's energy sword.

and since when did using a shotgun become a 'noob' weapon? come on guys if it was like that everyone would use a BR or Sniper rifle gos the involve skillz

OMG teh shtgone killz meh wat teh NOOBZ...... dont get that close then :D


i was implying it would be a noob weapon if it was as accurate as the assault rifle and still 1 hit kill


ohhh okay babes

  • 08.24.2009 9:06 AM PDT

what is a shot gun? its a gun that fires a lot of small bullets that spread out as soon as they are fired. so it is only effective at a short range because of the bullet spread. halo is a realistic game so the guns are realistic. no shotgun today is effect at 100 yards away, maybe one of the bullets will travel that far but it will do little to no damage. so the shotgun should stay the same in halo reach. increasing the kill zone 10 or even 20 more feet would be dumb. that would mean that 20 feet away with one shot gun blast all the bullets would stay together enough to kill someone. no. thats very unrealistic even 500 years in the future. they should keep it the same so u can still kill someone from 20 feet away but with more than one shot.

plus if u did that to the shotgun u would have to increase the lunge range of the sword to contour it which would mean lunging from 20 feet away. come on u obviously did not think of what would happen to the people who have to face the shotgun. if they can use the shotgun basically from a BRs range, 20 feet away, and kill u with one shot the only way to kill you would be to do it form long range with a sniper or BR. or maybe some lucky nades. im sorry but there are way to many reasons not to do this. this was not the best idea.

  • 08.24.2009 9:50 AM PDT
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Halo CE shotgun was more of a medium ranged weapon that was lethal in close quarters, if your suggesting that the shotguns return that way, it would be too powerful, even if it became a power weapon.

Fair weapon balance > Logic

  • 08.24.2009 10:03 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Chocolate do you even know how a shotgun today works? The standard effective range for a military shotgun?

  • 08.24.2009 10:07 AM PDT