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Subject: Specialties +++ A Way Classes Could Work
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Posted by: Defiant Assasin
Posted by: evanhalo3
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he just said that bungie could balance it out


^Someone that actually read it. Thank you.

i read it too i like it bungie could balance it out


Thanks dude.

Oh and about it being unbalanced. If this idea would make the game so unfair because of exploits and stuff, but the BR is so unbalanced, than why do you play Halo 3 but hate this idea? What you call "exploits" are just players finding what combonations work well together. What's wrong with that? It makes the player have some strategy and intelligence when they play.

  • 08.27.2009 4:29 PM PDT

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well giving your idea which is totally unblanced and saying Bungie can fix it. isnt really doing much, what point would this serve if bungie would have to totally change it (which they would). and even if they tried this system would be near immpossible to perfect. and we alrady have games like this like section 8. besides, would it be worth bungie probably delaying the game to implament all these things and balancing it.

i have to agree, this is awful.

EDIT : I'm playing section 8 right now and your idea is the exact same as some of the section 8 passive skills... you baisically took that idea and put it in halo.

[Edited on 08.27.2009 4:31 PM PDT]

  • 08.27.2009 4:30 PM PDT

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ill admit the br is somewhat unbalanced but i can take alot of people out who are using it

  • 08.27.2009 4:32 PM PDT
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I really don't think it would delay the game because most of these specialties give you advantages that you can use in custom games anyway. Just now, everyone would have their own unique advantage that they prefer.

  • 08.27.2009 4:33 PM PDT
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I haven't played section 8 so i wouldn't know, sorry.

  • 08.27.2009 4:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: evanhalo3
I really don't think it would delay the game because most of these specialties give you advantages that you can use in custom games anyway. Just now, everyone would have their own unique advantage that they prefer.


ok, but its different, its a completely different system, one that works in other games, not halo.
Reach is already in production.. they already know what style its going to be.

[Edited on 08.27.2009 4:35 PM PDT]

  • 08.27.2009 4:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: joey1859
Posted by: evanhalo3
I really don't think it would delay the game because most of these specialties give you advantages that you can use in custom games anyway. Just now, everyone would have their own unique advantage that they prefer.


ok, but its different, its a completely different system, one that works in section 8, not halo.


It may be a different system but this is a completely different game. This game is not part of the old Halo trilogy. Obviously bungie will implement new things.

  • 08.27.2009 4:36 PM PDT

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your right, but the chances that it is class based or, your system is very slim.

  • 08.27.2009 4:42 PM PDT
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HAHA! I'M RIGHT! Jk haha. I know chances are slim, I'm just speculating and hoping =)

  • 08.27.2009 4:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: evanhalo3
Oh and about it being unbalanced. If this idea would make the game so unfair because of exploits and stuff, but the BR is so unbalanced, than why do you play Halo 3 but hate this idea? What you call "exploits" are just players finding what combonations work well together. What's wrong with that? It makes the player have some strategy and intelligence when they play.


Because you don't have to like a certain implement to like the whole game. Just like you don't have to invite more issue just because there is one already. You can call it what you want, but they are exploits of the system in place. The BR is the only weapon that performs consistently well outside of it's intended range, and it is also easy to use, as such it is the most frequently used weapon. Spawn camping/trapping is an exploit of the spawn system that leaves your opponents in a typically unfair situation. More often than not the only people that refer to these things as strategy and intellegence are the people that utilize the exploit. Just the PP/BR combo in Halo2, an animation glitch that was exploited to great effect. Instead of fixing it Bungie implement "combo training" playlists where all there was on the map was BR's and PP's.

The balance issue isn't the sole fault of the BR, but the way the BR is implemented does poorly effect balance. The way I look at it is why open the door for more balance issues when current models of a similar system are full them? I don't hate Halo3 by any means, but that doesn't mean it isn't without it's flaws.

  • 08.27.2009 5:32 PM PDT
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go play another -blam!- game if you want classes. halo has never done this and will never!

  • 08.27.2009 5:35 PM PDT
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Ugh.... new game = new stuff..... Just because Halo has never done it doesn't mean it won't

  • 08.27.2009 5:37 PM PDT
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Not this CRAP again

  • 08.27.2009 5:47 PM PDT
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^Same guy in both my topics? Cool.... i think. What CRAP?

  • 08.27.2009 5:53 PM PDT

Jacoby

I'm just gonna throw this one out there... what about just a certain playlist that has this setup. That way oldschool Halo fans get what they want and people who want something different get what they want. Also doing this would possibly increase the total fanbase of the halo games due to the fact that they are incorporating more variants of gameplay thus allowing the owner to get more out of it.

  • 08.27.2009 6:02 PM PDT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ FINALLY SOMEONE WITH A GOOD IDEA! Omg dude great idea. should I edit this into the original post? This will keep the classic Halo fans happy too

  • 08.27.2009 6:04 PM PDT

Jacoby

Posted by: evanhalo3
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ FINALLY SOMEONE WITH A GOOD IDEA! Omg dude great idea. should I edit this into the original post? This will keep the classic Halo fans happy too

Why thank you.
And add it in if you want to.

  • 08.27.2009 6:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Jacoby04
I'm just gonna throw this one out there... what about just a certain playlist that has this setup. That way oldschool Halo fans get what they want and people who want something different get what they want. Also doing this would possibly increase the total fanbase of the halo games due to the fact that they are incorporating more variants of gameplay thus allowing the owner to get more out of it.


I've got no gripe with this idea, but I don't know how functional this playlist would be, seeing as how they cut playlists that don't meet certain traffic expectations. At least this would give people the option, but something like this is more like to land up as custom game material.

  • 08.27.2009 6:19 PM PDT
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Just because you don't agree with the specialty system doesn't mean other people wont. I think it would be pretty popular.

  • 08.28.2009 5:49 AM PDT
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Ok I edited in your idea into the original post. Gave you credit and all =)

  • 08.28.2009 12:48 PM PDT

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Well first this is awful. If you want it to be like CoD then go play that. If Halo had classes it would ruin the game completly. Oh and use the search bar please.

  • 08.28.2009 1:04 PM PDT
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Use the search bar? What for? And this isn't classes. Plus I added in that it would only be a seperate playlist just to keep you happy.

  • 08.28.2009 1:09 PM PDT

Posted by: NightGlider764
Well first this is awful. If you want it to be like CoD then go play that. If Halo had classes it would ruin the game completly. Oh and use the search bar please.


Well first, I'm going to laugh my ass off at all you people who make this same CoD comment every single time the word "class" is mentioned if Bungie does decide to make a class-based game.

Oh, and how about you use the search bar, successfully find a topic like this within a minute, and post it here (along with a guide to actually find anything easily with the search bar) to helpfully redirect someone instead of copying every other poster in this forum.

  • 08.28.2009 1:15 PM PDT
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Wait, did someone else have this same idea? I thought it would solve the problem with people hating the class-based idea. Can you link me to the similar topic?

  • 08.28.2009 1:19 PM PDT
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^^ Oh and thanks for saying that thing about CoD. Just so everyone knows

CoD IS NOT THE ONLY GAME THAT USES CLASSES

So stop saying you don't want Halo to become CoD because of classes. Even with classes, Halo would DEFINATELY still have its own originality.

  • 08.28.2009 6:56 PM PDT

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