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Posted by: MATCLAN
Hmm... Lost Platoon.

I'd say go like this:

1 guy Laser + Automag/Sniper Rifle. He kills Wraiths and calls out drop loacations and othe rinfo such as Hunters, Choppers, kind of Chieftain etc.

2 guys take the Warthog until Tilt activates. They should disable Choppers and stockpile them in the spawn rooms (to let respawning players get right back to the action) and near the intial 'hog spawn for ease of access later. When Tilt activates these guys simply need to ditch the Warthog and get into Choppers.

1 guy should be general support, doing a bit of everything and usually helping protect the laser guy from Drones or Brute Stalkers. I suppose he could also take a Wraith at some point if he was covered well enough by the Choppers.

Speaking of stealing a Wraith; does keeping it in use and intact prevent a ne wone being dropped in that location? If so I can see some good lockdowns coming up.

I'll try this for sure. And I'm not sure, I'll test and let you know. This could make things so much easier.

  • 10.21.2009 2:00 PM PDT

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  • 10.21.2009 2:01 PM PDT

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Sounds good MoleN, thanks. I may havejust seen a problem though: I think I heard somewhere that only the host can use a Wraith... Could be a problem. :-)

And to the guy above; thanks for the unnecessary bump, but either contribute or get out. We'd rather not have this locked due to spam posts like yours.

  • 10.21.2009 2:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tyrant122312
Here's the way I plan to do this...

Since I'm a published writer, I'll be authoring the thing, but of course I'll be giving credit where credit is due. Yes, I do think of this as "our guide", I'm just doing the write up, and of course along with finding my own methods, I'll be testing everyone elses.

/tru7h
Exactly my thought, didn't mean that we would all write it.

  • 10.21.2009 3:04 PM PDT

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Yeah, it would be a mess if we all wrote different parts of it. Totally unco-ordinated and probably containing multiple opinions etc.
Anyway, Gazas here's my film for "the mission". See if it helps you next time you get online, if not I'll try and explain it at the weekend. Good luck.

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Uh...damn mission.

I can't believe I made it to the Tank part and failed from there. One, one Banshee that hid from me and attacked me later on was the cause. If I only would turn around and kill it before exposing myself to the AA Wraith.

Not to mention the second time where EVERYTHING is under control and out of nowhere, "They got the Oliphant? Veronica!"

Thanks for the vid, we'll watch it when I'm on.

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  • 10.21.2009 3:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tyrant122312
[...] at this point I literally hate this mission and just want to get it done and out of the way.

Oh yeah. Did I mention that I thought it was possibly the most badly designed mission in the whole of Halo? I've done it three times now on Legendary, and every time I hated it. I called the Bungie designers some very bad names during that mission.

Gazas will have made a few comments towards them as well I'm sure. :)

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I suck... :)

Haha! You're not that bad!

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  • 10.21.2009 4:12 PM PDT

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Oh yeah, someone wanted a stategy for Lost Platoon. I've logged about 13 hours and nearly 7 million points (for myself) on that mission, so I've got a few ideas.

Ideally, I'd say everyone should be in choppers, as early as possible. More guns the better!

It has excellent protection and it retains firepower over all sets, but, you already knew that :) Use it for splatter sprees while you have recharging health (being careful to dodge grenades when catch is on!). Then use it as a mobile turret thereafter. Good locations to turret from are either in the whole area around behind/beside the wraith hill (when one or both wraiths are active) or on the entrance platform (where you start from in Campaign). Though I've heard people use edges of the maps too.

For points, I'd say one person grabbing sniper and getting a sharpshooter with it at the start of every round (mostly on grunts, but PP brutes or jackals then headshot works good too. Even use the chopper to take off shields then headshot).

One person with the laser of course. Roll round in the chopper otherwise, hop off round the corner of a building or rock to laser the wraiths then continue. duh.

Other two people? PPs and Pistols :) Use mostly for choppers, stockpiling of course. I'd say once you get to about 15-20 stop bothering and just destroy the choppers. Splattering them while they're PPed or stuck against a rock nets a nice set of points.

Get yourselves killed after you get your Invincibles (should be good for lives with four people, you'll only get enough kills every few rounds. Perserving any vehicle or weapons you have of course.

Multikills are excellent for points too, as you all know already. Try taking out a brute first, then his 3 grunt cronies when they're in a squad for the overkill - totally awesome :) If survival is an issue just hit whatever comes first. Remember that pumping the trigger with the chopper gives a faster rate of fire too!

Hope that helps / someone reads it :P


EDIT: AH! Double post! NOOOOOOOOOO!

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Posted by: RC Master
Posted by: Tyrant122312
[...] at this point I literally hate this mission and just want to get it done and out of the way.

Oh yeah. Did I mention that I thought it was possibly the most badly designed mission in the whole of Halo? I've done it three times now on Legendary, and every time I hated it. I called the Bungie designers some very bad names during that mission.

Gazas will have made a few comments towards them as well I'm sure. :)

Posted by: DarkDEVASTAT10N
I suck... :)

Haha! You're not that bad!
Nah, I don't like it as a last mission in the story but it's still somewhat good. Mythic is just something this doesn't fit into.

Actually, maybe it does, just DON'T MAKE ESCORT MISSIONS BUNGIE. GOD DAMMIT!

  • 10.21.2009 4:56 PM PDT

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MATCLAN. Me and MoleN tested out the wraith idea. Yes you have to be host to steal it and have it operational and yes, wraiths will continue to drop even though you jacked the previous one. Stealing the wraith actually worked well, espically for the bonus round.

  • 10.21.2009 4:58 PM PDT
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MATCLAN. Me and MoleN tested out the wraith idea. Yes you have to be host to steal it and have it operational and yes, wraiths will continue to drop even though you jacked the previous one. Stealing the wraith actually worked well, espically for the bonus round.
Watch those Grunts fly!

And escort missions are alright... but not with Mythic, especially since it means you must rely on AI. That just makes me : (

  • 10.21.2009 5:09 PM PDT
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I read it RC, and I may adopt your plan. Seems very well thought out. Also, great work guy above me. It only gets harder.

  • 10.21.2009 6:50 PM PDT

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I barely beat Halo 3 on legendary, so I didn't even think I could touch Mythic. Since ODST is a lot easier and has health packs for black eye, it seems doable. I'm almost finished going through the game with everything but iron. I just did Kikowani station with one death, so I'm pretty confident that I can do that level on Mythic. Coastal Highway looks like hell though.

  • 10.21.2009 9:33 PM PDT

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Achronos: And what's this about a "design team" I've been hearing? Apparently stosh is so awesome he's now considered a "team".

Tyrant feel free to use my entire uplift reserve video It is probably the quickest and safest way.

  • 10.21.2009 10:38 PM PDT
Subject: Mythic ODST: Culling the Covenant (Now with NEW TIPS!)

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Posted by: CBTrigg
MATCLAN. Me and MoleN tested out the wraith idea. Yes you have to be host to steal it and have it operational and yes, wraiths will continue to drop even though you jacked the previous one. Stealing the wraith actually worked well, espically for the bonus round.
Watch those Grunts fly!

And escort missions are alright... but not with Mythic, especially since it means you must rely on AI. That just makes me : (


Ah well, if new Wraiths continue to get dropped I can only see them being useful for the Bonus Round. The lack of mobility and slow fire rate just doesn't balance well enough with the powerful plasma mortar. Choppers, stickys and the other Wraith would all be a huge threat whilse you're a slow moving target.

As for Coastal Highway, I wouldn't say it's poorly designed; I thought it was amazing on Legendary when the story was coming to a close. Seeing the Covenant invasion begin in earnest and the Assault Carrier begin to glass the city was incredible.

And on anything other than Mythic (or having Mythic + Tilt active) Dare and Vergil may as well be invincible for all the threat response time you get.
It's a good mission, just bad for Mythic. Pretty much the same as The Ark, you can't really play that mission the way it was designed i.e: begin with a sniper insertion similar to the Truth and Reconciliatio from CE.

EDIT: To Muzza; what's your best Uplift Reserve time? Pahat got 2:43 on Mythic.

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  • 10.22.2009 1:06 AM PDT
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Well, I found the Sniper to be very useful in Mythic, both in NMPD HQ and The Ark. The Ark is fine for Mythic IMO, but it's just a little long and a bit hard.

  • 10.22.2009 1:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
Well, I found the Sniper to be very useful in Mythic, both in NMPD HQ and The Ark. The Ark is fine for Mythic IMO, but it's just a little long and a bit hard.


Sniper was pretty beastly in NMPD HQ actually (I think the ODST sniper is actually a slightly different model than the H3 version, it definitely seem to have better ROF and a bit more power). I was expecting it to be useless but there you have it.
As for The Ark I don't think I used it much. If I sniped it will have been with a Beam Rifle unless we're talking about saving it to snipe Grunts and Jackals when you're on the ledge overlooking the downed Longsword or the metal ledge near the entrance to the LZ (at which point I discovered that peek shooting works with Rockets).

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I used it a lot though, specially when me and Dark played. Although I was Arby so I used the Beam Rifle but yeah, I used it for headhots.

And I can't actually see any difference between the Sniper Rifle in ODST and Halo 3. Headhots are pretty much the only good thing about it.

  • 10.22.2009 1:23 AM PDT

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It definitely fires faster in ODST, not as quickly as in Halo 2, but still pretty quick. And I'm sure that Vince tested it on Chieftains and it takes 1 bullet less to get the helmet off.

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Didn't notice...and about the Chieftains, could be the Chieftains that have changed. I mean, a Grenade stick doesn't take out a Brute's Power Armor so is the Grenade weaker or the Brute stronger?

In this case, is the Chieftain weaker or the Sniper Rifle stronger? =)

  • 10.22.2009 1:28 AM PDT

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I really can't say. Rank and file Brutes seem stronger but Chieftains generally feel the same to fight.
And I just checked, in both service records the Sniper Rifle is the SRS 99D AM so my theory is out going out of the window.

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Would have been cooler to see the Halo 2 Sniper.

  • 10.22.2009 1:41 AM PDT

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Achronos: And what's this about a "design team" I've been hearing? Apparently stosh is so awesome he's now considered a "team".

@Matclan well thats faster than me the best I got was about 2:57 but I can improve I just havn't tried. I know like evry shortcut.

EDIT: Pahat's time was 2:48 and I just got 2:48. It's going to be near impossible to get under 2:30

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Never cared about going in fast in Uplift, the mission is pretty damn fun to play.

  • 10.22.2009 4:15 AM PDT