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Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 2.0]

Do you know what kind of hat I'm wearing?

A party hat; you don't get one. An honor will this party be, a party in your honor, for your honor. Some of Tfear's personal guards are going to be there. You'll be introduced shortly.

Prepare to die.

The ruins from the babysitter look a lot like those found on Delta halo. If those ruins where presecutor, how would they end up on a halo made by forerunners?

  • 05.15.2010 11:18 AM PDT

Posted by: H0FFman J
The ruins from the babysitter look a lot like those found on Delta halo. If those ruins where presecutor, how would they end up on a halo made by forerunners?


They don't really look all that similar at all.

  • 05.15.2010 11:37 AM PDT

Do you know what kind of hat I'm wearing?

A party hat; you don't get one. An honor will this party be, a party in your honor, for your honor. Some of Tfear's personal guards are going to be there. You'll be introduced shortly.

Prepare to die.

Posted by: Wolverfrog
Posted by: H0FFman J
The ruins from the babysitter look a lot like those found on Delta halo. If those ruins where presecutor, how would they end up on a halo made by forerunners?


They don't really look all that similar at all.

Maybe a slight resemblance.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4307/45157230.jpg

  • 05.15.2010 12:03 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

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I have seen you future

Posted by: H0FFman J
The ruins from the babysitter look a lot like those found on Delta halo. If those ruins where presecutor, how would they end up on a halo made by forerunners?

If the forerunners can build worlds, then they can move buildings.

  • 05.15.2010 12:04 PM PDT

Posted by: H0FFman J
Posted by: Wolverfrog
Posted by: H0FFman J
The ruins from the babysitter look a lot like those found on Delta halo. If those ruins where presecutor, how would they end up on a halo made by forerunners?


They don't really look all that similar at all.

Maybe a slight resemblance.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4307/45157230.jpg


Perhaps a little. Although maybe the Forerunners were inspired by Precursor architecture.

  • 05.15.2010 2:20 PM PDT

Posted by: H0FFman J
Posted by: Wolverfrog
Posted by: H0FFman J
The ruins from the babysitter look a lot like those found on Delta halo. If those ruins where presecutor, how would they end up on a halo made by forerunners?


They don't really look all that similar at all.

Maybe a slight resemblance.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4307/45157230.jpg


How many different looks can ancient ruins have?

  • 05.15.2010 3:34 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

0x0 x0x 0x0 000 000 x0x 000
x0x 0x0 0x0 0xx 000 0x0 000
x0x x0x x00 0xx 0x0 x0x 0x0

I have seen you future

Posted by: steadman
How many different looks can ancient ruins have?

There are all sorts of different looks for ancient ruins. Look at Earth, we have all sorts of ruins, from the pyramids to Stonehenge. That is just for one species on one planet.

There would be all sorts of ruins throughout the galaxy, from the forerunners, the precursors, the covenant species, and any others we don't know about.

  • 05.15.2010 4:21 PM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors?

Logic and Reason over Religion.

I approve of this thread

  • 05.15.2010 7:32 PM PDT

On hiding dead bodies:
Posted by: Psuedo
Posted by: teh Chaz
Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.

if what the OP says is true, then the scientists of the covenant (as we know) but also the forerunner races were really really lazy, and just copied off everyone *shrugs shoulders*

  • 05.16.2010 11:40 AM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 2.0]

What killed the forerunners.

  • 06.10.2010 2:01 PM PDT

To much Reading.

  • 06.10.2010 2:45 PM PDT
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NOS ES TOTUS PRODROMUS TAMEN UNUS

  • 06.20.2010 9:37 AM PDT

yes scientists of the covenant are lazy because they copy all the forerunner technology

  • 06.20.2010 11:23 AM PDT

I am he who walks above the abyss
upon a mountain of sky
I am he who descends to the blackest nights
to the ever-slumbering restless
I am he who releases his star
which will shine and burn
I am the abyss / I am the storm / I am the sky

Good theory. Really good. Won't say I believe it 100%, but then again, I do that with real life stuff. Don't ever believe it 100%, but don't ever disbelieve it 100% either.

I'll keep those other theories, and the original theories I thought up in mind. But now I have this new and awesome one to think about too. That's what makes me love stories and games like this.

  • 06.21.2010 2:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: Shishka
Everything will be gone long before me. When the first living thing was born, I was here, waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job is finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave.

When ONI was studiing the flood near instilation 04 after it had been destroyed a scientist aboard the UNSC Mona Lisa claimed the flood were a biological weapon.
The forerunners discovered the flood, and never claimed that they were a biological weapon. If the flood are a biological weapon who could have possibly created them? I think that the precursors created the flood as a biological weapon. The flood got out of control and pushed the precursors into hiding. Then your theory comes into play. Just like the time Fred 104 felt like he knew about the artifact on reach. Which is why, when Fred 104 touches the glyphs on the complex, he gets a 'Frustratingly familiar' feeling, as if he's seen them before. I think the scientist had this same feeling when he said that the flood were a biological weapon. Like he had seen the flood before. The fact that the flood are a biological weapon was in his genes. Only something that humans know, and only something that the precursors knew.
This could also explain why the forerunner kept speciments of the flood instead of completley executing their extinction. Since the forerunner favored everything that had to do with the precursers they kept the flood around in stasis on the rings.
Anyways I'm getting aheaad of myself.

  • 06.23.2010 11:29 AM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors?

あなたはばかです。

Holy. Crap. That makes perfect sense.

  • 06.25.2010 2:18 AM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 2.0]

SAGE BEARD FTW

Humans were around in the same time but were less evolved when the flood came the Forerunners collected specimens from every species and fired the halo rings

  • 07.04.2010 10:56 AM PDT

"2010 is the monument of all my sins, Where they were omnipresent, and where I left my old life"

Just take a look at my activity in the said year...

The Only important thing is that "The time Has Come, and the Self Trascendence is at Will".

No, It's like;

- Forerunners.

- Precursors.

- The Race who will become the Humans.

- The Covenant's Races

- Another probably Races on the Milky Way? (Flood are Extragalactic).

  • 07.11.2010 11:32 PM PDT

Posted by: yar0th3ungg0y
No, It's like;

- Forerunners.

- Precursors.

- The Race who will become the Humans.

- The Covenant's Races

- Another probably Races on the Milky Way? (Flood are Extragalactic).


This theory is suggesting that the Precursors and humans are the same. If you don't like that idea, then don't believe it. It's just a theory after all.

  • 07.12.2010 12:47 AM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors?

I'm just your average idiot savant.


Posted by: HipiO7
*Head asplodes*


Ditto, but with understanding. A sound theory, Wolvefrog!

  • 07.15.2010 4:52 PM PDT

we are the heirs of forerunner. forerunner is the heir of precursor. nice post though

  • 07.15.2010 11:06 PM PDT

I'm just your average idiot savant.


Posted by: Crimius
halowiki, despite being highly accurate, has a tendency to include some speculation in their articles (check out MB's entry), thus, like the regular wikipedia, despite being a great resource it has it's flaws. double check what you find with the actual sources.

I wrote something talking about this theory on Halopedia, but I made sure to say it was just speculation.

  • 07.17.2010 3:41 PM PDT

I'm just your average idiot savant.


Posted by: Agustus
Heres my tweaked version of this theory. As well as what I think happened

The Precursor in there infinite knowledge and power became ignorant and un-wise. They raced towards the future in scientific innovations. So fast that if they stopped for a moment to think of the implications of a technology another would beat them to it. There world spinned out of control. Not a single individual could keep up in the progress. They spanned across the stars as well as made advancements at the cellular level and beyond. Then some how in a strive to create the perfect organism they began mutating a species. Accelerating its evolution until what they created could no longer be of this universe. Many would have embraced the creature, seeing it as the final stage of evolution. In there arrogance they where consumed. The thing spread in such speed that none could fight it. Scores of worlds fell to the monstrosity, and countless more embraced it as a desired thing. Those few left who refused to be consumed fled. Others attempted to fight it but the odds where immeasurable.

Many fled to distant worlds. Isolating themselves so they could never be found. Like a great forest fire the flood soon lost all source of fuel and its presence in this universe quickly diminished. Only isolated pockets of the beast remained. Survivors of different species that where part of the once great empire where now few and scattered through the vast reach of space. Of these there where even fewer true precursor left among the stars. Yet progress could not be halted. These species continued to evolve and create technology. Some far more rapidly than others. One of these species stumbled upon precursor technology, which they studied and used to make there own. They latter claimed there god given right to rule all within there reach. Until they stumbled upon the beast....

I suggest you read about the terminals and forerunner in Halowiki Wolverfrog. You may find supporting evidence. I can already name some off the top of my head.

Child of my enemy why have you come? I offer no forgiveness. A fathers sins pass to his Son.

Thats the Gravemind. His enemy and Humanity's father could be the precursors.


Best theory I,ve heard yet! I like the idea of the Precursors creating The Flood. Also, the Precursors being an empire of different species makes sense.

  • 07.17.2010 3:48 PM PDT

I'm just your average idiot savant.


Posted by: Gdude
Posted by: P3P5I
Agustus, I have one problem with your theory: how did the forerunners find a way to defeat the flood and the pecursors (who were far more advanced) couldn't?
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Then how did humanity defeat the flood, despite the forerunners not being able to?

Third time's the charm, I geuss.

  • 07.17.2010 3:50 PM PDT
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It's Hazard Time

I want to believe ^^
Nice thread OP, and a lot of good evidence too, even if Scully would like some hard facts you've got Mulder to agree with you.
We wait and see, more facts will be revealed, but I think that you are indeed right, congrats :)

  • 07.17.2010 5:42 PM PDT