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Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 1.1]

MJB

no matter how advanced something is, one thing is certain: -blam!- breaks. END OF STORY

  • 01.23.2011 5:16 PM PDT

The Playstars

not read cryptum but i have an idea

what if the last Precursor(captive is it) created the humans so that their DNA would be compatable with forerunner so the forerunners think "oh we have hit the jackpot" but infact humanity are the creations of the Precursors ready to be told what to do by captive

  • 01.26.2011 10:46 AM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 2.0]

-Not an Elite Roleplayer, i fancy the name, Deal with it.-

it's pretty much known now that the forerunner killed the precursors, the last precursor that was alive in the forerunner-flood war pretty much told didact this... and he wouldn't have had much reason to lie..

  • 01.29.2011 2:39 AM PDT

"Concise and devoid of elegance...what I have come to expect from human communication"-Endless Summer

I agreed with this theory until I thought about it, The Precursors were the Precursors, The Forerunners were the Forerunners and we are the Reclaimers. Spark said Chief was a Forerunner, but think...he could have gone through all of the stages of rampancy several times before Chief found him. Before he told Chief about the Forerunners he asked him to upgrade to at least the mk 10 combat skin... so that means that Spark thought Chief was Diadact. But then again my theory is based off the words of an even more unstable AI [Mendicant Bias]. But then again Spark completely flipped out when Johnson tried to activate 04 B

fixed


[Edited on 02.17.2011 10:47 PM PST]

  • 01.30.2011 10:28 AM PDT

:P

Just read Cryptum. That solves everything.

  • 01.30.2011 1:04 PM PDT

The Playstars

actually its not delta halo B its 04 B

  • 02.04.2011 11:26 AM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 1.1]

HYPOTHESES! theories have been tested.
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: Agustus
Posted by: Telec
Maybe spark wasn't rampant. bear in mind that there are theories flying around about Chief and time travel. after H3 legendary ending, he gets chucked back in time, fights some more flood, then activates the rings for the first time.


^made up off the top of my head^


BS!

I was one of the first to come up with that I believe.

About how the forerunner defeated the flood, the answer is very simple. They didn't. If you read Halo 4, in plain sight, it may clarify somethings for you. If the flood is not of this galaxy then more might be coming. Also the forerunner didn't winningly let themselves be consumed. They enacted a type of cole protocol as well, to stop its advance. Just 1 planet with intact ships and other archives would mark the beginning of the downfall of the entire Precursor race.

Also about Sparks, I think humanity could in-fact be forerunner as well. A few of them may have cross breed (naturally, or artificially it doesn't matter). Both species having a similar genetic make up would no doubt have made this easier. Also we know forerunner are indeed very human like in emotions and perhaps body shape.


No we don't. None of that has been confirmed or even clarified, it is only a theory.

Posted by: Wolverfrog
AJ is write, I don't even know why I edited that part about Halo in. Randomness?


lulz

  • 02.05.2011 11:48 AM PDT

meh...

well. if he was a reclaimer and it was forunner tech. then wouldnt that just make him forunner coming back to reclaim the halos. and about halo legends, that was just the crappy japanese animating. everything will come out looking asian

  • 02.05.2011 9:13 PM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 2.0]
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Very good theory, and I believe it, but I see one major plot-hole I see. If Earth is the Precursor homeworld, why is it not covered in ruins? If you look at any "homeworld" in any work of fiction, it is always covered in cities, and even in the real world we see this(East coast of the USA)
Other than that fatal flaw, I think you may be on to something, but I offer this thought....
You've played ME2 I assume, in that the Protheians were converted to collectors through extensive DNA altering. So, what if Humanity is a genetically altered version of the Precursors?

Good thread, I give it two thumbs up.

  • 02.05.2011 9:42 PM PDT

No new games, catching up with the world, and filling it with the name of SpazDragon, the dragon with a spas-12.

Humanity belongs to neither Forerunner or Precursors.

Only Chuck Norris.*

(*Joking)

Seriously, I also would have thought of Precursors being humanity since it was the Forerunners that found Humanity.(This peice of information came out of my butt. :P)

The Forerunners probably didn't know Humans were Precursors either.

I have no idea.

I also feel like there is a connection between the Forerunners and the Rakata from Star Wars. Seems to fit, but then again may not match descriptions.

[Edited on 02.05.2011 10:05 PM PST]

  • 02.05.2011 10:01 PM PDT

What about the archaeological record? Is the OP suggesting that Cro-Magnon or Neanderthals are the Precursors? Sound theory, but what we KNOW about Earth's history kind of shoots it down.

  • 02.05.2011 10:03 PM PDT

I believe -blam!- sapiens in Halo canon are the precursors. If not, then why the relevence?

  • 02.06.2011 6:17 PM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 1.1]

The pulse from a Halo array destroys Precursor structures, how did the one in The Babysitter survive? I haven't seen it.

  • 02.11.2011 5:03 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: God2845
The pulse from a Halo array destroys Precursor structures, how did the one in The Babysitter survive? I haven't seen it.


It wasn't Precursor, it was of human origin when we were about Tier 1.

  • 02.11.2011 6:05 PM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 2.0]

"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain."

You know what? This'd make a nice little plot twist in that "Reclaimer" web comic. Might seem far-fetched, and might not fit perfectly with the story, but it could happen.

ON TOPIC: That, my fellow forumgoer, is one awesome theory.

  • 02.11.2011 7:24 PM PDT

Games I like:,
Half-Minute Hero
MBU
Portal
Halo 3 is the best Halo ever
Maps I like: Turf, Avalanche, Pylon, Sandbox, Breakpoint and many more.

Its... Plausible. Im not sure if its true, because your building up from what I read on the fact spark was confused. But its highly likely, yes.

  • 02.13.2011 2:13 AM PDT

I'm not going down without a good fight! :D

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Plus, my epicness of extreme gaming comes every summer, see you peeps next year!!

Man! Lot's of reading going on and the theories been made that most of them makes sense! This thread is Awesome!

  • 02.13.2011 1:35 PM PDT

I have a little theory of my own haven't worked out all the bugs but i'll wing it anyway.

Humans are refered to as 'child' as the forerunners now child actually means a younger person and bear in mind children can be adopted, i see it that humanity is a younger race who the forerunners chose to inherit there remanants after they were gone. Now consider that in halo legends the forerunners gathered all the species in the galaxy and reseeded them all, now if they knew of all of these species then they would have studied and reviewed there very nature. As a result would have seen humans to be of the right 'heart and soul' if you like as all the covenant races are prone to mindless aggression and are downright fanatical, also less intellgient maybe bar the prophets. But anyway so they would of seen humans as the right sucessors to use there technology peacefully once they were gone. As from the halo universe in general the human worlds all seem to be littered with forerunner relics which point to other human worlds, but somewhere down the line forerunners overlooked humanities greed or netherending hunger should that led to so many wars and thus slowed progress time after time and were not aware of forerunner technology 'officially' on first contact with the covenant. And thus there greater plan for humanity failed in the end, it was luck that 'saved' them.

Well thats my idea like a say i sort of winged it meaning it might be buggy but the basic idea should be clear

[Edited on 02.14.2011 7:02 PM PST]

  • 02.14.2011 6:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Daniel Vallance
I have a little theory of my own haven't worked out all the bugs but i'll wing it anyway.

Humans are refered to as 'child' as the forerunners now child actually means a younger person and bear in mind children can be adopted, i see it that humanity is a younger race who the forerunners chose to inherit there remanants after they were gone.

Now consider that in halo legends the forerunners gathered all the species in the galaxy and reseeded them all, now if they knew of all of these species then they would have studied and reviewed there very nature.

As a result would have seen humans to be of the right 'heart and soul' if you like as all the covenant races are prone to mindless aggression and are downright fanatical, also less intellgient maybe bar the prophets. But anyway so they would of seen humans as the right sucessors to use there technology peacefully once they were gone.

As from the halo universe in general the human worlds all seem to be littered with forerunner relics which point to other human worlds, but somewhere down the line forerunners overlooked humanities greed or netherending hunger should that led to so many wars and thus slowed progress time after time and were not aware of forerunner technology 'officially' on first contact with the covenant.

And thus there greater plan for humanity failed in the end, it was luck that 'saved' them.

Well thats my idea like a say i sort of winged it meaning it might be buggy but the basic idea should be clear


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Since Crytum states the Precursors are Insectoid; so its impossible for Humanity to be the Precursors - all were wiped out when they had a war with Forerunners; save one...

[Edited on 02.16.2011 9:06 PM PST]

  • 02.16.2011 9:05 PM PDT
Subject: Humanity are not Forerunners, but in fact Precursors? [Update 1.1]

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  • 02.17.2011 7:11 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: Master Penguin5
you sir, are a complete and utter genius.


Read Cryptum...

  • 02.19.2011 2:27 AM PDT

To be honest, when I first saw all this in the weekly update I thought 2 things.
#1- there is an actual legendary ending but,
#2- No matter what anyone does,(kill all the bobs, hit all switches etc) that until the "time" mentioned in "There'll be another time..." is reached there won't be a legendary ending.

The weekly update by bungie has slowed my hardcore search for what unlocks the legendary ending.


Posted by: hotshot revan II
Read Cryptum...
Cryptum made the bungie forums go to hell. it's sad now, the least to say.

  • 02.19.2011 5:35 PM PDT

"I'm afraid of the man I'll become if I lay my life down for the people I don't even care for"

Posted by: mrhalo007

Posted by: hotshot revan II
Read Cryptum...
Cryptum made the bungie forums go to hell. it's sad now, the least to say.


Cryptum. Hmmm. Haven't read it yet. And can't find any forums....

Was it good?

  • 02.20.2011 1:53 AM PDT