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Subject: Brutes are terrible enemies.
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Poll: Brutes are terrible enemies.  [closed]
Brutes = Bunny rabbits (not intimidating):  71%
(50 Votes)
Brutes = Very intimidating! *hides behind couch:  29%
(20 Votes)
Total Votes: 70

They are so predictable and boring. Break their shields... they get angry and run berserk at you blah blah blah...Their blue armor makes them look even more 'Friendly.' In Halo 2 they looked more intimidating with no armor! Elites are the original and the best to fight! They better be the main enemy in REACH or it's gunna be poo!

  • 08.29.2009 10:56 PM PDT
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You can't kill what's dead.

Stand. Fight. Resist. S2F.

I agree, but if you buff up their AI, change their appearance to look a lot more menancing, and bring them back with the Elites as enemies, I think they a very good, varied foe to fight against. They should definitely be stronger. Like...two melees from them kills you. And they should run MUCH faster. And they should really loose the mohawk...

  • 08.29.2009 11:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: GHOST REVOLVERAnd they should really loose the mohawk...


Yes...alien race + mohawk = Fail

  • 08.29.2009 11:06 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Terrible AI as well.

  • 08.29.2009 11:11 PM PDT

I miss playing Halo with my friends.

Posted by: Uncle Kulikov
Terrible AI as well.


You should play Halo 1 and 2, the AI in those games are waaaaaaay worse.

  • 08.29.2009 11:55 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: Kaiser TheGreat
Posted by: Uncle Kulikov
Terrible AI as well.


You should play Halo 1 and 2, the AI in those games are waaaaaaay worse.


Get out......NOW!!!!

  • 08.30.2009 12:12 AM PDT

I always found them to be quite annoying.

Especially when they have a gravity hammer/grenade launcher/that launcher that's supposed to be the equivalent of the rocket launcher that i can never remember the name of.

Yeah, I suck

  • 08.30.2009 12:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: Painguin
I always found them to be quite annoying.

Especially when they have a gravity hammer/grenade launcher/that launcher that's supposed to be the equivalent of the rocket launcher that i can never remember the name of.

Yeah, I suck


Perhaps the Fuel rod cannon?

  • 08.30.2009 12:22 AM PDT

nah they aren't. But it would be a big mistake if Bungie let you kill brutes instead of elites!

  • 08.30.2009 1:51 AM PDT

No they aren't. It's just that Elites are better. Fortunately, Reach is set before the Brutes gained frontline roles in the war so Elites will be the main enemy in the game.

  • 08.30.2009 6:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

WOORT WOORT WOORT!

  • 08.30.2009 6:14 AM PDT

Fear my Pink Mist...

ELITES ARE AWESOME/ brutes are gorrilas

  • 08.30.2009 6:26 AM PDT
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I agree. The Elites of CE and Halo 2 were much better enemies. The AI might not have been that great, but they were more respectable and powerful than the Brutes.

The Brutes of Halo 3 were a disappointment. All you really had to do - even on Legendary - was charge them with an AR and finish them off with a melée.

In Combat Evolved, for example, you had to be more careful. It was safer to take them down at mid/long-range with the help of an M6D Pistol and a Plasma Pistol.

I'm praying that we'll get the Elites back in Reach. The Brutes were just weak and unintelligent.

[Edited on 08.30.2009 6:29 AM PDT]

  • 08.30.2009 6:28 AM PDT
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I completely agree.

All they do is stand there, only moving to the side every so often. The jetpack brutes are just more annoying than anything else.

I'm so glad we're going back to Elites in Reach (as Brutes weren't recruited into the covenant at the time of Reach).

Atleast Elites had intelligence of hiding, taking cover, moving a lot, and of course they had their signature "WORT WORT WORT!"

  • 08.30.2009 6:33 AM PDT

Posted by: Z MEN xx
we dont care.


but this guy does


DUDE THATS SOOOO EPIC HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! this man deserves recoowwwnnzzz

  • 08.30.2009 6:39 AM PDT

MCz

Yes, halo 3 brutes were a huge disapointment. The ones in halo 2 were the REAL brutes.
Return to the roots i say.

  • 08.30.2009 7:04 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

LIST OF CHANGES NEEDED FOR BRUTES

- Keep their Halo 3 armour but make the following changes:

1. Make it less shiny, and make it cover more of the body.
2. Make their melee stronger, goddamnit!
3. Make sure their armour doesn't fall off when their shields overload!
4. Make them run just as quick as Spartans/Elites. Make them less gullible, even if they are Brutes.
5. Add them to Reach's multiplayer, with the necessary changes for this in mind!
6. Make sure they're a minor component in the campaign.

P.S. I don't know why everyone dreams about the Halo CE Elites as if they were marvellous. I have the game and have known it for ages - the Elites aren't particularly clever either. They are easily defeated just by spamming them with endless MA5B rounds. And they dodge slower than a hippopotamus.

[Edited on 08.30.2009 7:41 AM PDT]

  • 08.30.2009 7:37 AM PDT

I see nothing wrong with brutes, they just need to better in terms of programing. For starters, they could have energy shields over their armor, making it so that you need a lot more ammo to knock off their armor.

They should also avoid your shots a lot more. When I play Halo 1 and 2, the Elites are always taking cover, and avoiding my attempts to kill them. In Halo 3, the brutes just kind of stand there.

  • 08.30.2009 7:53 AM PDT

Big Team Battle Multiflag/Slayer on Standoff/Valhalla/Sandtrap/Avalanche = Win

it may be silly, but if a brute and elite are working together against you, that would be pretty tough. So hopefully there will be squads with brutes and elites.

  • 08.30.2009 8:12 AM PDT
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Why not both?

  • 08.30.2009 9:11 AM PDT

They should be more powerful and less common, sort of like Hunters.
They should be like they were presented in the novel First Strike, As the very elite of the covenant. (but not elites)

  • 08.30.2009 9:17 AM PDT
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now i love the new armour thing , but i still think the should thow in a few of the old no amour ones for cannon fooder .

the burtes are the opisite of every thing elites are thats why the elites hate them so much , and the sole reason why the brutes hate the elites , well thats plain and simple jelousy they are petty they fight over any thing , the elites are a brother hood the brutes are pack animals , i enjoyed fighting elites because of the things that they said and the fact that they could keep up , adapt . and always give a good melee , they were the perfect enemy , they were even better than the marine's ? one could hold it's own against a squad for a while , they even had me on ocasions running from them ? now brutes are good cannon fooder and i did enjoy killing them because over the course of the two games i like many elites slowly learned to hate them . it's not that there slow and stupid , and take damge like tomorrow isn't a day . the reason why i hate the brutes is because they have no dignaty , there perfect for the prothets to manipulate , they have no standards , they even take trophes ? they are truely skum ? tarturus was a suplanter . the brutes suplante the elites . retas what ever his name was is completely right about them in every way .

it's no a matter of fear .... it's one of hate , i love to kill brutes .

that said i do like there savage aproach to weponry and vehicles , but that does not excuse bungie at all to cut the specter (alien car thing) and there armour can make them easyer on the eye's , and yes that jump pack thing was a joke ? but like most things in halo , can be solved with exesive amounts of melee attacks (of hate) but i say keep them and there silly red jump packes . but they are no replacement for the cuning of elites , althow the hand held plasma cannon captin did get me a few times ? i was all way's out of reach .

p.s.
brutes are really dum . killed a cheiften once with a gravity hammer because i jumped of a stair way , he just stood there till i nailed him lol .

  • 08.30.2009 11:37 AM PDT

Posted by: Kaiser TheGreat
You should play Halo 1 and 2, the AI in those games are waaaaaaay worse.
I disagree. In Halo: Combat Evolved, enemies knew that they could shoot at you from greater distances and that cover is good.

And while I'm at it, in Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2, the Flood behaved like a hive mind parasite. In Halo 3, they behaved like individual intelligent creatures that care about their lives. I would prefer the hive mind parasite behave like a hive mind parasite.

The Halo: Combat Evolved level the Library brings fond memories of their less-than-caring outlook. They'd rocket launcher eachother as much as necessary to hit you. Or run at you if you stick them.

  • 08.30.2009 11:41 AM PDT

How to spell "space"?

S-P-ACE! SPACE!

I think that Brutes really aren't as scary as they are supposed to be, nor as big or tough. They should be able to take more damage, and should be generally replaced by Elites. Elites are tougher because they are smarter. I like a challenge :)

  • 08.30.2009 11:42 AM PDT

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