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Subject: Found something New
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I still think that something is going to happen with Bungie.net involving Halo 2

  • 07.25.2004 3:17 PM PDT
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I know the truth. I know what it speaks of. You can to , look deeper

  • 07.25.2004 3:18 PM PDT
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What we do need to find out is how do we," Make your decisions accordingly?"

  • 07.25.2004 3:18 PM PDT
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it has to have something to do with the halo 2 update 2 weeks from now... i hope

  • 07.25.2004 3:18 PM PDT
Subject: EASTER EGG in HALO 2 Theatrical Trailer?!
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Posted by: Sketch_
Posted by: Elite marine3436
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PLEASE STOP POSTING TEXT FROM THE ILOVEBEES SITE!

Ummm...i dont know if you noticed but that's what this hole FORUM IS ABOUT!!!

Yes it is, but we dont need the may day crap in here 100 times, it can be read on the site, and the meaning discussed here

Well we didnt need it earlyer but new people were coming in and fournd out about it and there exited and they dont want to read 300 pages.

  • 07.25.2004 3:18 PM PDT
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july 16 04

"We just got CENSORED working and it's da bomb! No wait, that's a different game"

said by max hoberman

well what other game can bungie making besides halo 2 pc or.................marathon next

for the xbox next lunch!

  • 07.25.2004 3:18 PM PDT
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but what about the first countdown

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Posted by: cDringer
I may be bursting a lot of bubbles, and I may be wrong, but I don't think that the ilovebees.com thing has to do with Halo 2. In this news story http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/07/22/news_6103188.html
it says that microsoft is making a new top secret game. Also in another message board, they said that the original name of the game was "The Beast", but it was later changed to "The Hive" (bees anyone?). This could be a marketing ploy from microsoft to advertise two different games at once. And Microsoft might also reveal the new game when the countdown is done.

If you read that article you would know that its something being done to boost xbox use in Japan....if this site were part of that wouldnt you suppose it would be in japanese?

  • 07.25.2004 3:19 PM PDT
Subject: EASTER EGG in HALO 2 Theatrical Trailer?!
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Now... a release is super far-fetched.... but I have one random musing on a potential release idea.

The assumption is that we'll have to make a choice in 29 more days.

As far as we know... the ESRB has rated the single-player content for Halo 2 (multiplayer content isn't rated ever, thus the disclaimer before most online games).

All the Bungie updates talk about de-bugging multiplayer... stress-testing and what not.

Since Halo 2 will feature supposed revolutionary live content (hand in hand with Live 3.0/Tsunami), what if its taking longer than expected to iron out?

What if the game features a single-player only release on the 24th, and a full release w/multiplayer on the 9th of Nov?

I mean... folks like me that couldn't give two craps about online play would definitely except the consequences of choosing a single player only copy early. ;)

  • 07.25.2004 3:19 PM PDT
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"I was recently informed that Halo isn't the only game for Xbox....who knew?

The only thing you need to know is it's coming and it's coming this year. "


sketch do you what is going to happen on 8-24-04

  • 07.25.2004 3:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: vash2022
july 16 04

"We just got CENSORED working and it's da bomb! No wait, that's a different game"

said by max hoberman

well what other game can bungie making besides halo 2 pc or.................marathon next

for the xbox next lunch!


He might have just been refering to game types.

  • 07.25.2004 3:19 PM PDT
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Although it seems any conclusions I inevitably draw within the Halo/Marathon universe, someone has already written about it. Except this:

This is, yet another, take on the whole Kill Your Television (first terminal) debate. I believe the author is in fact a conglomerate of intellects, most specifically writing this poem from the point of view of Cortana. Let us dicuss:

I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh.I have been called a hundred names and will be called athousand more before the world goes dim and cold. I am hero. She has been nameless since our birth,a constant adversary caring for nothing but my ruin,a sword drenched in my blood forever, my greatest andonly love. She is the dark. O Lethe, enemy and lover, withoutwhom my very existence would be pathetic and vulgar!Our relationship is complex and perhaps eternal.We met once in the garden at the beginning of the world and, unaware of our twin destinies, we matched staresacross a dry fountain. And I recall her smiling at me beforeshe devoured the lawn and trees with a translucent blue flameand tore flagstones from the path and hurled them into thesky, screaming my sins. I powder a granite monument in asoundless flash, showering the grass with molten drops ofits gold inlay, sending smoking chips of stone skipping into the fog. She splinters an ancient oakwith a force that takes my breath and hurls me to the ground.She lea% [leaves?]

The first section: I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh.I have been called a hundred names and will be called athousand more before the world goes dim and cold. I am hero

If you assume that the Halo and Marathon timeline's are one in the same, Cortana logically lives on to 'fight another day' following the events of Halo/Halo 2. Based on another Bungie fan's speculation, we will see Cortana go rampant in Halo 2. Having said this, at the time of writing this passage, Cortana is rampant, and quite possibly, insane. Amongst the names she mentions, two are mentioned within 'The Fall of Reach': Gilgamesh and Beowulf. Beowulf was the ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence) A.I. who screened the initial presentation of Covenant information to the Spartans. Later, Cortana hacks into the ONI's database to retrieve blocked files on John 117, and briefly runs into some trouble with Beowulf. She also places several credit transactions to a brothel on Gilgamesh (presumably another planet) to frame a high-ranking officer. Now, in her 'rampant' state (at the time of the above passage's writing) she may possibly be confusing various names and places with the sheer amount of data she has absorbed. Perhaps she even retains some of the code for Beowulf's programming, it is stated within FoR that she saved the route she took to ONI for later use. Maybe sometime between Marathon and Halo she assumed command of Beowulf for her own means? She then calls herself 'hero' from the first-hand account of John 117's battles with the Flood and the Covenant. John thanks Cortana, and is often thankful for Cortana, during his battles, so vicariously, Cortana and John are one 'heroic' entity.

Second section: She has been nameless since our birth,a constant adversary caring for nothing but my ruin,a sword drenched in my blood forever, my greatest andonly love. She is the dark. O Lethe, enemy and lover, withoutwhom my very existence would be pathetic and vulgar!Our relationship is complex and perhaps eternal.

As written on the Marathon story page, Lethe is a river that flows through the underworld of Hades. Borrowed from a Google search: "Forgetfulness". In Greek mythology, the Lethe is one of the rivers that flow through the realm of Hades. Called the River of Oblivion, the shades of the dead had to drink from this river to forget about their past lives on earth.

Technically speaking, you would assume the UNSC developed and employed A.I.'s for the purpose of tracking/remember/calculating/referencing information that starship captains do not have access to, or simply don't know about. Would it not then be easy to conclude that Cortana's one and only true enemy is 'forgetfulness'? Is it not her job to remember EVERYTHING she witnesses? True, she selectively deletes files in FoR and her Alpha command is to protect (insofar as completely erasing her own existence, thereby forgetting) the coordinates of Earth. But overall, her task is to catalog and assist with the memory of information. The blood-drenched sword alludes to the fact that Cortana has done and seen many violent and bloody things in order to ensure that she procures and retains her vital information. The destruction of Halo was her idea and as such, is one of presumably many large-scale acts of violence for the sake of preserving information.

Third section: We met once in the garden at the beginning of the world and, unaware of our twin destinies, we matched staresacross a dry fountain. And I recall her smiling at me beforeshe devoured the lawn and trees with a translucent blue flameand tore flagstones from the path and hurled them into thesky, screaming my sins. I powder a granite monument in asoundless flash, showering the grass with molten drops ofits gold inlay, sending smoking chips of stone skipping into the fog.

The 'We' mentioned at the beginning is no longer referring to the 'she' from the previous section. Here you would have to imagine an audible pause (if this was spoken aloud) or perhaps a topic change motivated by subtext. Keep in mind the author is likely not writing this to an audience, and is merely spouting off thoughts in a poetic fashion, clarity is also not a rampant A.I.'s strongpoint. I believe now, the 'conglomerate of intellects' A.I. in charge is now writing from the standpoint of Durandal, who somewhere along way, has managed to absorb the whole of Cortana. How exactly they could've 'met' is unclear, but as stated before with the communication between Cortana and Beowulf, it is not required for A.I.s to be physically near one another to communicate. I still believe the garden is in fact Halo, the blue flame is the destruction of Halo, and one could interpret that perhaps Durandal was at one point a Covenant A.I.? The 'screaming my sins' line would allude that Cortana's desctruction of the PoA opened the eyes of some Covenant (or Covenant A.I. in this case) to the fact that this war is a sin against their deity (possibly the Forerunner?). Halo WAS built to contain the Flood, not unleash them, maybe the Forerunner were a peaceful, intelligent race, and avoided conflict at nearly all costs (the exception being Halo itself), thus, to worship such a peaceful race, would not war be against their (the Covenant) religion? The latter half of this section, I haven't found an explanation for. Perhaps this, and the remaining lines of the poem, are now referring to something else we've yet to see?

In conclusion, if it is accepted that Durandal wrote this passage, I would have to add that Cortana somehow had a hand in it, or in fact Cortana and Durandal now occupy the same memory-processors and are in fact one and the same A.I. entity.

Whew.

Thanks for reading.

  • 07.25.2004 3:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Elite marine3436
Well we didnt need it earlyer but new people were coming in and fournd out about it and there exited and they dont want to read 300 pages.


What?

  • 07.25.2004 3:20 PM PDT
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That's an awesome idea, about "The Beast" and "The Hive". Think it could be a game to hold us over until Halo 2 comes out? Doubtful that Bungie will be working on anything except concentrating on Halo 2 but who's to say...

  • 07.25.2004 3:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: ace3
sketch do you what is going to happen on 8-24-04

I wish I knew

[Edited on 7/25/2004 3:22:00 PM]

  • 07.25.2004 3:21 PM PDT
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www.ilovebees.com the key lies here. Look deep , but know what you are looking for

  • 07.25.2004 3:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: POULYPOUL
www.ilovebees.com the key lies here. Look deep , but know what you are looking for


Right...........

  • 07.25.2004 3:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: POULYPOUL
www.ilovebees.com the key lies here. Look deep , but know what you are looking for

Maybe a clue thats a tad bit less vauge?

  • 07.25.2004 3:22 PM PDT
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Um, not sure how exactly to put this. I was just contacted by someone over AOL Instant Messenger that I do not know.

They are leading me on a wild journey through the Halo universe, and with the way they've displayed all the texts on the site, I'm starting to get a feel for what's going on here. (I'm just as lost as you are, don't worry. Hang in there.)

Alright. From what I gather, there are three "swords". Each sword is harnessed by a seperate race as a weapon against the Flood.

Wow. While typing this, I just realized something. This area of my knowledge is a little hazy, but wasn't Cortana the sword Charlemagne gave to his son? It dealt fatal blows.

It all makes sense. Cortana is the first sword, used by the humans.

The second sword is someone else we all know. Dana, the creator of www.ilovebees.com . Her site, and her, in a way, are being harnessed by the Covenant. As I said, the varrao mites are key. These mites, a.k.a. the Flood, have affected the Covenant far worse than they have us. It is possible they have infected a Prophet. I'm not clear on all of this just yet, but it seems that Dana is a way for the Covenant to communicate their cries for help. They are in more danger than us Humans are.

Two swords, two races. That leaves one more.

The last sword is used by the Forerunner, who are also in danger. Their sword is far more simple. The Halos. It is confusing to me, too. However, I think this makes sense. These are the ways each race is attempting to combat the Flood.

The honey is the key. From what this unnamed person on AIM has said, the honey appears to be related to the Forerunner. Their technology, perhaps?

I'll try to figure some more out. Bear with me.

  • 07.25.2004 3:22 PM PDT
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www.ilovebees.com the key lies here. Look deep , but know what you are looking for


And by that you mean???

  • 07.25.2004 3:22 PM PDT
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Kon_Syn....That's pretty in depth....I like it

  • 07.25.2004 3:24 PM PDT
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i don't know if this has been posted yet,

but today i played Halo for 7 hours and ate 13 tacos. my uncle died 4 years ago...

7 + 13 + 4 = 24

Halo 2 is coming out August 24! This proves it.
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  • 07.25.2004 3:24 PM PDT
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Tick Tock Tick Tock........You have until August 24th to find the key. When you find it you will understand.

  • 07.25.2004 3:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: JonR2000
Um, not sure how exactly to put this. I was just contacted by someone over AOL Instant Messenger that I do not know.

They are leading me on a wild journey through the Halo universe, and with the way they've displayed all the texts on the site, I'm starting to get a feel for what's going on here. (I'm just as lost as you are, don't worry. Hang in there.)

Alright. From what I gather, there are three "swords". Each sword is harnessed by a seperate race as a weapon against the Flood.

Wow. While typing this, I just realized something. This area of my knowledge is a little hazy, but wasn't Cortana the sword Charlemagne gave to his son? It dealt fatal blows.

It all makes sense. Cortana is the first sword, used by the humans.

The second sword is someone else we all know. Dana, the creator of www.ilovebees.com . Her site, and her, in a way, are being harnessed by the Covenant. As I said, the varrao mites are key. These mites, a.k.a. the Flood, have affected the Covenant far worse than they have us. It is possible they have infected a Prophet. I'm not clear on all of this just yet, but it seems that Dana is a way for the Covenant to communicate their cries for help. They are in more danger than us Humans are.

Two swords, two races. That leaves one more.

The last sword is used by the Forerunner, who are also in danger. Their sword is far more simple. The Halos. It is confusing to me, too. However, I think this makes sense. These are the ways each race is attempting to combat the Flood.

The honey is the key. From what this unnamed person on AIM has said, the honey appears to be related to the Forerunner. Their technology, perhaps?

I'll try to figure some more out. Bear with me.


If the Covenant need our help why would they be killing us?

  • 07.25.2004 3:24 PM PDT
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thanks I think that gives a little more insight on what it might be

  • 07.25.2004 3:25 PM PDT