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i think i figured it out, in fall of reach, chief mendez says he was leaving to train the next group of spartand, that is how there is a spartan 259.
probably been said before, and i dont care

  • 08.31.2009 2:35 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

The class II spartans were put on hold, and then cancelled. They don't exist.

  • 08.31.2009 2:39 PM PDT

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We'll have to wait for more info. Something is definitely up. And we know that the UNSC departments are secretive.

  • 08.31.2009 2:42 PM PDT

I still believe that 259 is a Pelican as with the other number 3##. I forgot the numbers

  • 08.31.2009 2:45 PM PDT

Ugh...

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Posted by: privet caboose
The class II spartans were put on hold, and then cancelled. They don't exist.
Where does it say that?

  • 08.31.2009 2:48 PM PDT

Class II

After the graduation of the first class of SPARTAN-IIs in 2525, Dr. Halsey began planning for the next wave of Spartans; her efforts, however, ran into problems. There were too few candidates that were in sync with her age restriction protocol and a majority of her funding was going towards MJOLNIR maintenance and construction; leaving little room for continued training efforts. By 2531, the majority of her funds had been diverted and she was forced to postpone the effort indefinitely.[2]

However in 2537, children were conscripted into the SPARTAN-II Program,[3] trained, and went under the augmentation procedures; it is unknown how many may have survived the augmentation process, or how much time Dr. Halsey spent with them, or if she was involved.

The following is the list of all currently known, or rumored SPARTAN-II subjects conscripted in 2537.

Yasmine Zaman - Died from complications in Augmentation.
SPARTAN-259 - KIA/MIA Battle of Reach: 2552
SPARTAN-320 - KIA/MIA Battle of Reach: 2552


Taken directly from Halopedia. Scroll down until you see Class II in bold letters.

  • 08.31.2009 2:55 PM PDT

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Class II

After the graduation of the first class of SPARTAN-IIs in 2525, Dr. Halsey began planning for the next wave of Spartans; her efforts, however, ran into problems. There were too few candidates that were in sync with her age restriction protocol and a majority of her funding was going towards MJOLNIR maintenance and construction; leaving little room for continued training efforts. By 2531, the majority of her funds had been diverted and she was forced to postpone the effort indefinitely.[2]

However in 2537, children were conscripted into the SPARTAN-II Program,[3] trained, and went under the augmentation procedures; it is unknown how many may have survived the augmentation process, or how much time Dr. Halsey spent with them, or if she was involved.

The following is the list of all currently known, or rumored SPARTAN-II subjects conscripted in 2537.

Yasmine Zaman - Died from complications in Augmentation.
SPARTAN-259 - KIA/MIA Battle of Reach: 2552
SPARTAN-320 - KIA/MIA Battle of Reach: 2552


Taken directly from Halopedia. Scroll down until you see Class II in bold letters.


Dude Halopedia is not a valid sourse because anyone can edit it.

  • 08.31.2009 3:46 PM PDT

Posted by: POKEY CLYDE
Posted by: privet caboose
The class II spartans were put on hold, and then cancelled. They don't exist.
Where does it say that?

Ghosts of Onyx. Ackerson to either Mendez or Kurt. Or Kurt to Mendez.

[Edited on 08.31.2009 3:49 PM PDT]

  • 08.31.2009 3:49 PM PDT

I wish I was still legendary.

If you were correct, then Sierra 320 would be a spartan 3 - which is impossible, because they're all on Onyx around this time besides team Gamma.

  • 08.31.2009 4:20 PM PDT

Posted by: Stealth1288
Dude Halopedia is not a valid sourse because anyone can edit it.


Halopedia is the best source we have for now. Also, I am sure it works just like wikipedia where if someone edits something, they know and go check to see what they did.

[Edited on 09.01.2009 8:01 PM PDT]

  • 09.01.2009 8:00 PM PDT

This is what i've been able to get from Halopedia.

Class IIAfter the graduation of the first class of SPARTAN-IIs in 2525, Dr. Halsey began planning for the next wave of Spartans; her efforts, however, ran into problems. There were too few candidates that were in sync with her age restriction protocol and a majority of her funding was going towards MJOLNIR maintenance and construction; leaving little room for continued training efforts. By 2531, the majority of her funds had been diverted and she was forced to postpone the effort indefinitely.

However in 2537, children were conscripted into the SPARTAN-II Program,[3] trained, and went under the augmentation procedures; it is unknown how many may have survived the augmentation process, or how much time Dr. Halsey spent with them, or if she was involved.

The following is the list of all currently known, or rumored SPARTAN-II subjects conscripted in 2537.

Yasmine Zaman - Died from complications in Augmentation.
SPARTAN-259 - KIA/MIA Battle of Reach: 2552
SPARTAN-320 - KIA/MIA Battle of Reach: 2552

  • 09.01.2009 8:07 PM PDT

I posted that already smart one.

  • 09.01.2009 8:08 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Just read this, it'll disprove this lame Class II crap.

Anyways, alot of people out there believe that the 5 people in the Banner are Spartan II class II's, but in reality, they don't exist. The class II's were a cancelled project.


After the graduation of the first class of SPARTAN-IIs in 2525, Dr. Halsey began planning for the next wave of Spartans; her efforts, however, ran into problems. There were too few candidates that were in sync with her age restriction protocol and a majority of her funding was going towards MJOLNIR maintenance and construction; leaving little room for continued training efforts. By 2531, the majority of her funds had been diverted and she was forced to postpone the effort indefinitely.


This means that Halsey never got around to finishing the class II's, and Mendez was later called to Ackersons "Spartan III" project.

Spartan III's cost much less the Spartan II's, could be trained faster, and didn't use the costly MJOLNIR armor. These Spartan IIIs could be "produced" in bulk, since they didn't go through as many risky genetic augmentation processes. Since Halsey wasn't on board with this project, they are not class II's.

While we are on the Spartan III subject, I'm going to point out why it is impossible for Spartan IIIs to be a part of this game.

Reach was invaded August 30th, 2552.

All of Alpha company was killed in 2537
All of Beta Company was killed in 2545, except for Tom and Lucy, who went on to train Gamma.
Gamma company didn't receive orders to move off of Oynx until October 2552, After Reach had fell. And Even if Some of Gamma was at Reach (no clue how they would of gotten there) they have different call signs, such as "Ash - G099"


Enough with the Spartan III's.


Now, some people will say, "What about Nicole-458, she was a Class II" The Truth behind that is, Nicole is a non-canon character made up by Bungie to be put in Team Ninjas Dead or Alive 4. Team Ninja originally request Master Chief, but Bungie instead gave them Nicole.

However, the most controversial thing of all, is I love Bees.

In October 2004, Joe was asked if ILB is canon, he replied:
Joe Staten:
"The Bees would not make the cut. Those guys basically did their own thing with very little Bungie input (save for massaging and approving the initial plot-treatment). While we helped define the boundaries of their fiction, we let them do what they thought best. And I think the game turned out great."


However, In July 2006 Frank O Conner stated:
Frankie:
"We're going to have this huge collection of canon and things that we embrace as canon, like I Love Bees and stuff like that."


Yet, that same year, Joe Staten said:
Joe Staten:
We're in the process of figuring out what was canon and what was not, and ILB was part of that neutrality.


I love Bees hasn't been mentioned since then, so I believe it's safe to say that it is NOT canon, especially since it directly violates other canon, such as the time in which characters Shaw and Fujikawa were supposed to have been alive.


Now, that still leaves the question, "What about the higher number spartans, such as "259" and "320"

Now it is very true that we haven't seen a Spartan II with a call sign this high, but that doesn't mean there isn't anyway. MLG Cheewawa was right when he said that the Human controlled planets at that time meant that there was trillions of Humans and children to scan, it's possible that more than 320 children were scanned possible induction, then it was narrowed too 150, then 75.

Hell, it's possible that these "Higher Numbered" spartans were in our face the entire time.

Spartans such as James, Mike, and Cassandra have played large roles in the novels, and Halo canon, and they've never had their numbers stated. Plus, there is still 11 unnamed spartans who's numbers could be higher than 150.



Hopefully, this cleared some things up for you, and you know now why It is possible that these Spartans are part of the original group of spartans, and Not class II's, or spartan III's.[/b]

  • 09.01.2009 8:15 PM PDT

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wow people actually read the books....sweet it wasn't just me and the bullies at my high school were wrong

  • 09.01.2009 8:16 PM PDT

Just rock to the rhythm of the funky Rhyme, So i can get busy just one more time.

Next reach development will be tomorrow night on G4 at 12 30 AM so keep your eyes peeled!

  • 09.01.2009 8:18 PM PDT

i think i figured it out, in fall of reach, chief mendez says he was leaving to train the next group of spartand, that is how there is a spartan 259.
probably been said before, and i dont care


that is plausible, because not all of the Spartans were on Onyx. There were only 3 squads on Onyx and the rest were around somewhere in space? idk so dont like flame me. yes i have read the books. so if im wrong enlighten me please.

[Edited on 09.01.2009 8:25 PM PDT]

  • 09.01.2009 8:22 PM PDT

I don't really care. All I care about is this:SPARTAN-259 - KIA/MIA Battle of Reach: 2552

That in my brain = Battle of Reach so I don't really care and will leave the theories to yourselves till the dam game comes out.

  • 09.01.2009 8:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

I think Sierra 259 and 320 are a squad of marine sniper or spec op forces. Or they could be pelicans that transport Spartans.

  • 09.01.2009 8:31 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

All I know is that they're not Spartans.

  • 09.01.2009 8:40 PM PDT

What a waste....

As a lot of people say, they are probably just Pelicans... that are pilot able o.O

  • 09.01.2009 8:46 PM PDT

http://achievementgen.info/view.php?ach=22555

Posted by: Tucker 051
All I know is that they're not Spartans.

Why do you say that?There isn't any full evidence of anything yet.

  • 09.01.2009 9:26 PM PDT

Join this awesome group!!!

GTFO!!! Did you read Ghosts of Onyx or are you just ignorant???? There was another set of spartans, they were less powerful but still spartans. They were trained on a planet made of sentinals.
Posted by: privet caboose
The class II spartans were put on hold, and then cancelled. They don't exist.

  • 09.01.2009 9:47 PM PDT

PEANUT-BUTTER SLAP!

Posted by: Vigilnt sniper
GTFO!!! Did you read Ghosts of Onyx or are you just ignorant???? There was another set of spartans, they were less powerful but still spartans. They were trained on a planet made of sentinals.
Posted by: privet caboose
The class II spartans were put on hold, and then cancelled. They don't exist.
Oh the irony. Those were Spartan IIIs. Not a second class of Spartan IIs.

  • 09.01.2009 9:59 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Vigilnt sniper
GTFO!!! Did you read Ghosts of Onyx or are you just ignorant???? There was another set of spartans, they were less powerful but still spartans. They were trained on a planet made of sentinals.
Posted by: privet caboose
The class II spartans were put on hold, and then cancelled. They don't exist.

It's obvious you've got no idea what you're talking about, and are trying to fit in by attempting to insult me. You're thinking of the Spartans III's, which I explained in my earlier post in this thread.

Maybe next time you should think your post out before you try to insult someone.

  • 09.01.2009 10:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Vigilnt sniper
GTFO!!! Did you read Ghosts of Onyx or are you just ignorant???? There was another set of spartans, they were less powerful but still spartans. They were trained on a planet made of sentinals.
Posted by: privet caboose
The class II spartans were put on hold, and then cancelled. They don't exist.

It's obvious you've got no idea what you're talking about, and are trying to fit in by attempting to insult me. You're thinking of the Spartans III's, which I explained in my earlier post in this thread.

Maybe next time you should think your post out before you try to insult someone.

Caboose, these words are too big for him to understand.

  • 09.01.2009 10:19 PM PDT

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