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Subject: Perks in Reach Multiplayer!!

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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Perks have been the mainstay of the Call Of Duty 4 series Multiplayer, so why shouldn't the (possibly) greatest game series ever have them? You guys got any ideas of some halo style perks?

Now, an explanation of my purpose before you flame me. I have the rare ability to see both sides of an argument. I realize that perks could ruin the finely-balanced formula halo has been built on. I also realize that they could add a whole new level of depth to the halo multiplayer.
So this post is in support of the latter, but that doesn't mean that I can't see both sides of the argument. Thank you for your consideration.

Here's my ideas:

Stealth Armor: Decreases the range at which other people detect you on their radars
Grenade pouches: Carry more grenades. Nuff' said
NVGs: Night Vision. Do you seriously need me to explain this one?
Super Radar: Opposite of Stealth Armor
Dual Triggers: Fire at twice the rate for all automatic weapons
Servo skeleton: Can Dual wield normally single wield weapons (dual rockets ^_^)
Ammo pouches: Carry more ammo
Battle stims: FIGHT THROUGH THE PAIN SOLIDER! Your health is 10% more damage resistant.
Martyrdom: Don't hate on me for this one >.>
Supreme Reflexes: Reloading goes faster.
Steady Hands: Less recoil

Note: To all you people who complain that perks have already been done by Cod,and making them will turn Halo into a Call of Duty rip-off, allow me to enlighten you:

It is scientifically impossible to create a completely original idea. No matter what you do, on some level, someone has done it before. I understand CoD has already done perks, but they stole it from someone else, who stole it from someone else, etc. even if they didn't do it intentionally. So why shouldn't Bungie add it's own unique style to the perk system? Bungie is creative enough to give it a fresh appearance, and skilled enough to balance it out correctly. I for one, would love the new layer of depth to the system. Or is having to manage equipment straining your brain already?

Note: To those who complain that it would unbalance the system, consider this:

I have read a lot of the novels associated with the Halo universe, and it seems to me that the multiplayer has nerfed the weapons and buffed the spartans for the multiplayer. This is completely okay with me, as a matter of fact, it is quite enjoyable to survive blasts and other forms of damage that would kill a normal man. But all the same, if Bungie ever forayed into a CoD style tactical shooter, (Rainbow six Vegas 2 style with ODSTs would be EPIC, but that's a discussion for another time.) these are some things they could try.

Note: This is an ideas forum, not a forum so you can tell me I suck, and that the ideas suck, and that perks suck. This is a forum for rational people with rational ideas for Halo's future. If you do not like the idea of perks, don't post. Thank you.

Note: I find it depressing that this topic gets over 80 posts and This One doesn't.

This thread has officially gotten over 100 posts! I couldn't have done it without all you good people flaming my ideas...... Thank you!

[Edited on 09.07.2009 1:43 PM PDT]

  • 08.31.2009 8:40 PM PDT

Success is just going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.

I like the idea's but dont think it would work out, just look at the responses in my thread "Armour advantages in Reach"

P.S. prepare to negative criticizim from random people

  • 08.31.2009 8:47 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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There's a difference, Armor advantages suck, Perks are awesome! But seriously, the only people who would hate on this idea are obsessed fanboys afraid of change. Thanks for the heads-up though.

  • 08.31.2009 8:51 PM PDT

50% Damage resistance would be rediculous.

If you're going to come up with ideas that have been said over and over on these boards, at least balance them :P

  • 08.31.2009 8:55 PM PDT

I really hope this does not happen. One of the reasons I like Halo is that the playing field is equal for all players, beginners and veterans, and I would hate to see that aspect be removed from Halo.

Whether or not you like perks is a matter of personal opinion, but it seems like almost every new online shooter has some sort of cod4 esque perk/unlock system.

I personally do not think perks are needed for reach to be an outstanding game, but if anyone could do it right, itll be bungie.

I'm buying the game regardless. I guess well have to wait and see.

  • 08.31.2009 9:31 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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Posted by: Po0f MoNk3y
50% Damage resistance would be rediculous.

If you're going to come up with ideas that have been said over and over on these boards, at least balance them :P


And are YOU coming up with ideas? NO.

  • 08.31.2009 9:32 PM PDT
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Radar perks may work, also the reload and ammo one too

  • 08.31.2009 9:33 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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Posted by: NecroFillak
I really hope this does not happen. One of the reasons I like Halo is that the playing field is equal for all players, beginners and veterans, and I would hate to see that aspect be removed from Halo.

Whether or not you like perks is a matter of personal opinion, but it seems like almost every new online shooter has some sort of cod4 esque perk/unlock system.

I personally do not think perks are needed for reach to be an outstanding game, but if anyone could do it right, itll be bungie.

I'm buying the game regardless. I guess well have to wait and see.


That's actually quite a fair point. So you don't think that Bungie, with their aptitude for producing top-notch videogames, could improve the system?

  • 08.31.2009 9:34 PM PDT
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Maybe some faster Shield regenerator, or some especial bullets perk(more drain of shield)

  • 08.31.2009 9:34 PM PDT

Some of those ideas I like like the recoil one and the sensors, but yeah I really like Halo 3 'cause you earn your way through skill not perks. Good idea though. :)

  • 08.31.2009 9:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: Awkward_Zombie
Perks have been the mainstay of the Call Of Duty 4 series Multiplayer, so why shouldn't the (possibly) greatest game series ever have them? You guys got any ideas of some halo style perks?

Here's mine:

Stealth Armor: Decreases the range at which other people detect you on their radars
Grenade pouches: Carry more grenades. Nuff' said
NVGs: Night Vision. Do you seriously need me to explain this one?
Super Radar: Opposite of Stealth Armor
Dual Triggers: Fire at twice the rate for all automatic weapons
Servo skeleton: Can Dual wield normally single wield weapons (dual rockets ^_^)
Ammo pouches: Carry more ammo
Battle stims: FIGHT THROUGH THE PAIN SOLIDER! Your are 50% more damage resistant.
Martyrdom: Don't hate on me for this one >.>
Supreme Reflexes: Reloading goes faster.
Steady Hands: Less recoil


Sounds like Camo from Cod:WaW
Sounds like another perk form Cod:WaW
Whats the point?Theres no night maps.
Sounds like Reconnaissance from CoD:WaW but differs a little.
Sounds like Double Tap from CoD:WaW
No Comment.
Sounds like Bandolier from CoD:WaW
Sounds like Juggernaut from Cod:WaW
Again from CoD:WaW
Sleight of hand from CoD:WaW
Steady aim from CoD:WaW

Listen when you plan on spewing ideas like these, make them original.

[Edited on 08.31.2009 9:42 PM PDT]

  • 08.31.2009 9:40 PM PDT

Yeah I fully trust Bungie when it comes down to creating great games I will enjoy for years. I feel like they wouldn't add perks unless it truly added to the game experience and they were balanced.

I know people will flame about this but I'm not into that kind of discussion.

Perks just aren't my cup of tea, and it very well be the fact that I compare every fps game I play to Halo. I just don't want something that doesn't belong detract from the Halo experience as I know it. Bottom line it's a personal opinion.

  • 08.31.2009 9:41 PM PDT
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NO GROUP INVITES

THERE NOT IN HALO FOR A FCKN REASON if they added perks then it would suck let call of duty have them and i would quit halo if that happend srry i love this game but that would be to unbalenced

  • 08.31.2009 9:42 PM PDT

double post sorry

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  • 08.31.2009 9:43 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Halo is not meant to be a tactical game. It's run and gun.

  • 08.31.2009 9:46 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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Posted by: ShadowScythe159
Posted by: Awkward_Zombie
Perks have been the mainstay of the Call Of Duty 4 series Multiplayer, so why shouldn't the (possibly) greatest game series ever have them? You guys got any ideas of some halo style perks?

Here's mine:

Stealth Armor: Decreases the range at which other people detect you on their radars
Grenade pouches: Carry more grenades. Nuff' said
NVGs: Night Vision. Do you seriously need me to explain this one?
Super Radar: Opposite of Stealth Armor
Dual Triggers: Fire at twice the rate for all automatic weapons
Servo skeleton: Can Dual wield normally single wield weapons (dual rockets ^_^)
Ammo pouches: Carry more ammo
Battle stims: FIGHT THROUGH THE PAIN SOLIDER! Your are 50% more damage resistant.
Martyrdom: Don't hate on me for this one >.>
Supreme Reflexes: Reloading goes faster.
Steady Hands: Less recoil


Sounds like Camo from Cod:WaW
Sounds like another perk form Cod:WaW
Whats the point?Theres no night maps.
Sounds like Reconnaissance from CoD:WaW but differs a little.
Sounds like Double Tap from CoD:WaW
No Comment.
Sounds like Bandolier from CoD:WaW
Sounds like Juggernaut from Cod:WaW
Again from CoD:WaW
Sleight of hand from CoD:WaW
Steady aim from CoD:WaW

Listen when you plan on spewing ideas like these, make them original.


#1 I don't play call of duty world at war so i wouldn't know
#2 I DON'T SEE YOU TRYING! IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 08.31.2009 9:47 PM PDT

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1 I doubt that seeing most of those perks are rip-offs
2 Yes, it can be that easy.I am a very creative person so by my standards its pretty damn easy.
The reason I'm not trying?I don
t want perks or any crap like that.If this is gonna be bungie's last Halo game I want it to be something remember, not something to take on a drastic change and give the halo series a bad name.

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You have to take it easy, this guy is just showing his ideas.

Some perks may work. CoD is not the only one that has perks.
This perks may work for team games.

Nice idea buddy.

  • 08.31.2009 9:52 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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Thanks

  • 08.31.2009 9:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Oz Warbringer
You have to take it easy, this guy is just showing his ideas.

Some perks may work. CoD is not the only one that has perks.
This perks may work for team games.

Nice idea buddy.

I realize that, I just want some ORIGINAL ideas no knock-off perks from CoD, which is one of Halo's biggest rivals.

  • 08.31.2009 9:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: ShadowScythe159
Posted by: Awkward_Zombie
Perks have been the mainstay of the Call Of Duty 4 series Multiplayer, so why shouldn't the (possibly) greatest game series ever have them? You guys got any ideas of some halo style perks?

Here's mine:

Stealth Armor: Decreases the range at which other people detect you on their radars
Grenade pouches: Carry more grenades. Nuff' said
NVGs: Night Vision. Do you seriously need me to explain this one?
Super Radar: Opposite of Stealth Armor
Dual Triggers: Fire at twice the rate for all automatic weapons
Servo skeleton: Can Dual wield normally single wield weapons (dual rockets ^_^)
Ammo pouches: Carry more ammo
Battle stims: FIGHT THROUGH THE PAIN SOLIDER! Your are 50% more damage resistant.
Martyrdom: Don't hate on me for this one >.>
Supreme Reflexes: Reloading goes faster.
Steady Hands: Less recoil


Sounds like Camo from Cod:WaW
Sounds like another perk form Cod:WaW
Whats the point?Theres no night maps.
Sounds like Reconnaissance from CoD:WaW but differs a little.
Sounds like Double Tap from CoD:WaW
No Comment.
Sounds like Bandolier from CoD:WaW
Sounds like Juggernaut from Cod:WaW
Again from CoD:WaW
Sleight of hand from CoD:WaW
Steady aim from CoD:WaW

Listen when you plan on spewing ideas like these, make them original.


#1 I don't play call of duty world at war so i wouldn't know
#2 I DON'T SEE YOU TRYING! IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you suck. end of forum.

  • 08.31.2009 9:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


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and how!

Absolutely not. Perks are the reason that Call of Duty went down the drain. Halo shall not take the same route.

  • 08.31.2009 9:55 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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Posted by: ShadowScythe159
Posted by: Oz Warbringer
You have to take it easy, this guy is just showing his ideas.

Some perks may work. CoD is not the only one that has perks.
This perks may work for team games.

Nice idea buddy.

I realize that, I just want some ORIGINAL ideas no knock-off perks from CoD, which is one of Halo's biggest rivals.

Unfortunately, based on these replies, CoD has covered all the bases where perks are concerned. I realize that I may have left out some possibilities, but thats why i'm asking the community for ideas!

  • 08.31.2009 9:55 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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Posted by: x MibZ x
Absolutely not. Perks are the reason that Call of Duty went down the drain. Halo shall not take the same route.


"went down the drain?" Have you been living under a rock?

  • 08.31.2009 9:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: x MibZ x
Absolutely not. Perks are the reason that Call of Duty went down the drain. Halo shall not take the same route.

Wtf are you talking about?
CoD and Halo are always neck and neck for the #1 Game of the year.

  • 08.31.2009 9:58 PM PDT