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Subject: Get rid of dual wielding

We should get rid of dual weilding to bring back the awesomeness of the Halo CE weapons.
Yes, those weapons are strong when dual wielded but it means you can't throw grenades and reload times are longer, And this make dual wielding weapons boring.

Maybe only have it as an option in custom games.

  • 09.02.2009 3:37 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Or you could keep it and just NOT USE IT.

  • 09.02.2009 3:40 AM PDT

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Or you could keep it and just NOT USE IT.


No you don't quite understand, I would love to use the Plasma rifle, plasma pistol, Pistol etc.
But you have to dual wield to make up for the fact that these weapons are weaker on their own.

  • 09.02.2009 3:42 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: iwanneatchips
Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Or you could keep it and just NOT USE IT.


No you don't quite understand, I would love to use the Plasma rifle, plasma pistol, Pistol etc.
But you have to dual wield to make up for the fact that these weapons are weaker on their own.

You kiddin'? the Pistol is a 5 shot kill single wield, it literally kills BETWEEN the Br's 4th and 5th shots.

Effectively in order of opportunity for kills it goes:

Carbine, BR, Carbine, Magnum, Carbine, BR, Magnum, Carbine, Magnum, BR, Carbine, Magnum, Carbine, BR.

See that? The Magnum's 3rd chance to kill, came BEFORE the BRs, this is because of the slightly faster fire rate. The 4th was well before the BRs.

The Plasma Rifle only requires THREE SHOTS and a Melee to kill. That is NUTS.

And I have never been in a situation where a single SMG lost to an AR.

[Edited on 09.02.2009 3:48 AM PDT]

  • 09.02.2009 3:46 AM PDT

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Effectively in order of opportunity for kills it goes:

Carbine, BR, Carbine, Magnum, Carbine, BR, Magnum, Carbine, Magnum, BR, Carbine, Magnum, Carbine, BR.
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what?!?!?!?

  • 09.02.2009 5:10 AM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Or you could keep it and just NOT USE IT.

  • 09.02.2009 5:43 AM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

Posted by: Rammal94
Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Or you could keep it and just NOT USE IT.

  • 09.02.2009 5:44 AM PDT

issakcer

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Or you could keep it and just NOT USE IT.

  • 09.02.2009 5:48 AM PDT

Posted by: iwanneatchips
Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Or you could keep it and just NOT USE IT.


No you don't quite understand, I would love to use the Plasma rifle, plasma pistol, Pistol etc.
But you have to dual wield to make up for the fact that these weapons are weaker on their own.


Can't you guys read the second -blam!- post!

  • 09.02.2009 7:36 AM PDT
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i don't see why you hate dual weilding it's not like you find alot of them on the maps that's why i am horrible sometimes since i like my smgs but i can't use them most of the time since the map dosen't have them and if you don't like using them stop complaing

  • 09.02.2009 7:45 AM PDT

Posted by: iwanneatchips
But you have to dual wield to make up for the fact that these weapons are weaker on their own.

Two things:

1) They aren't weak by themselves. With the plasma rifle I can kill your shields in four shots. From there a team mate can score the kill with a headshot or I can beat you down. No way is it "weak".

2) If you still under the impression that they are weaker on their own, then dual wield. Problem solved.

  • 09.02.2009 7:56 AM PDT
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Also if you think thier weak test them out for yourself in custom games ,get a friend and test 1 plasma rifle for a couple minutes and see how long it takes to take the shield down then try with a dual weild another plasma rifle and see what that does. You don't have to try with a plasma rifle i was just saying that for example ,but i can understand you saying spikers are weak on their own ,but you have to play with them and understand where to shoot for them to be alright weapons.

  • 09.02.2009 8:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Or you could keep it and just NOT USE IT.

  • 09.02.2009 8:10 AM PDT

Ok this is becoming a flamers paradise.

  • 09.02.2009 8:12 AM PDT
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~SSLYK~

MAGNUMS OWN ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 09.02.2009 8:13 AM PDT
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Thats not a good idea but I now what is a good idea Sop da Wup!

  • 09.02.2009 8:59 AM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

Posted by: iwanneatchips
Ok this is becoming a flamers paradise.

Flaming is attacking the person, not the idea.

Posted by: x Foman123 x
What counts as "flaming"?
The act of "flaming" is the act of attacking or insulting a person who posts, rather than the ideas expressed within the post itself. Your post should remain on-topic and focused on the subject matter of the thread rather than any individual user


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  • 09.02.2009 9:02 AM PDT

Posted by: Fos Tis Krisis
Or you could keep it and just NOT USE IT.

  • 09.02.2009 10:03 AM PDT

There are those who said this day would never come, what a day to say now.

dont listen to any of the fools above.
if you havent played ce u cant judge about dualwielding.

also, the search bar is your friend :)
MLG cheewahwah has got a huge threat about this.



  • 09.02.2009 10:16 AM PDT

Posted by: ocirne23
dont listen to any of the fools above.
if you havent played ce u cant judge about dualwielding.

the weapons are exactly the same the difference is you can CHOOSE too dualweild

  • 09.02.2009 10:32 AM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: iwanneatchips
We should get rid of dual weilding to bring back the awesomeness of the Halo CE weapons.
Yes, those weapons are strong when dual wielded but it means you can't throw grenades and reload times are longer, And this make dual wielding weapons boring.

Maybe only have it as an option in custom games.

I want to have both the powerful single wielded weapons, and the flexibility of dual wielding.

You could make Dual Wielding work differently.

Have the plasma rifle be powerful when single wielded, and then reduce the damage and accuracy when dual wielding.

Currently, there is an 80% damage modifier when you dual wield, and a negative accuracy boost.

If they adjusted the penalty for Dual Wielding even more, by reducing accuracy and damage even more, then it would strike a balance.

That way you can have the powerful single wielding weapons from Halo 1, and the flexibility of being able to mix and match Dual weapons for additional effects and flexibility.

Look at this thread:
Dual Wielding

[Edited on 09.02.2009 10:52 AM PDT]

  • 09.02.2009 10:52 AM PDT

Character Artist -- Electronic Arts

The weapon damage is actually different depending on dual wielding or not.
Per bullet damage is up when soloing, it goes down when dual wielded. But the overall damage output is greater (at a given range)

Dual Wielding in the Beta was awesome. Its too bad they made the AR too strong at close range, essentially limiting the effective range of a Dual Wield to medium-close but outside of melee.

Dual Wielding should stay, its a fun way to mix up the weapon set. And its very useful.

  • 09.02.2009 11:21 AM PDT

Screw recon, I want my 42 steak dinners.

If you take away my dual SMG's I will mother freaking find you.

  • 09.02.2009 11:34 AM PDT

my god chips, you've created a monster!!!!

  • 09.02.2009 11:46 AM PDT
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You Suck. The one thing i have always wanted to see in a halo game is the ability of holding dual energy swords. and dual Spartan Lasers.

  • 09.02.2009 1:26 PM PDT