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Subject: UNSC Blade: The Hummingbird

Posted by: Rune174
Posted by: Justice One Duo
So, it is a Vibroblade? That would be cool. I really like the name.

Okay, lol, that sounds so wrong.

Bring it up with George Lucas. I would provide a link, but just go to:
starwars.wikia.com, Search for Vibroblade.
It is basically a blade with quickly moving molecules or something like that, so it can stand up to a Lightsaber. I dunno if you already know this, in case you do not, here is a nice little explanation for those of us with gutter-minds.

  • 09.02.2009 7:41 PM PDT

When you think that you have it all is the moment that you can lose it. Don't think ahead if you can't think for the present.

Actually Piraka, Halo in and of itself a very unique sci-fi game all on its own. Its why its so popular. I would be saying that many games have been copying halo, not the other way around.

  • 09.02.2009 7:42 PM PDT

When you think that you have it all is the moment that you can lose it. Don't think ahead if you can't think for the present.

Well Duo, I had no prior knowledge up until now about anything that could stand up to a lightsaber.

  • 09.02.2009 7:45 PM PDT
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No.

Posted by: Rune174
Actually Piraka, Halo in and of itself a very unique sci-fi game all on its own. Its why its so popular. I would be saying that many games have been copying halo, not the other way around.


Watched a sci-fi movie from the 80's or 90's lately?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEzYdLrPws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y07I_KER5fE

Halo is just one big throwback, dude. A damn good one at that. Sorry.

[Edited on 09.02.2009 7:57 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2009 7:57 PM PDT

Oh yeah. Vibroblades are freakin tough. They can be just about any size too, from a full length sword to a dagger. Also, Beskar (which is a Mandalorian metal) withstands Lightsabers. But enough about that. I would not mind some kind of knife in Reach.

  • 09.02.2009 8:00 PM PDT

When you think that you have it all is the moment that you can lose it. Don't think ahead if you can't think for the present.

Actually, I was only making a human equivelant of the energy sword. Its just another way of balancing out similar weapons. I'm sure that the Hummingbird would be somewhat less powerful, maybe even take two shots at somebody in order to kill, but be able to strike more quickly.

  • 09.02.2009 8:03 PM PDT

When you think that you have it all is the moment that you can lose it. Don't think ahead if you can't think for the present.

Posted by: master piraka
Posted by: Rune174
Actually Piraka, Halo in and of itself a very unique sci-fi game all on its own. Its why its so popular. I would be saying that many games have been copying halo, not the other way around.


Watched a sci-fi movie from the 80's or 90's lately?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEzYdLrPws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y07I_KER5fE

Halo is just one big throwback, dude. A damn good one at that. Sorry.


I don't think halo is anything like Aliens other than maybe the Flood, and I don't remember anything that is insect-like other than maybe the drones.

  • 09.02.2009 10:03 PM PDT

The humans have a melee ranged weapon. Its called the Shotgun. Its a melee range weapon that any human infantry can use. Designing a weapon that can only be used by 40 out of the hundreds of thousands of infantry at the UNSC's disposal is stupid.

Human Swords / Knives / Machetes aren't happening. Look at the bruteshot. It has a huge blade on it yet it still takes two hits to kill people. Why do you think any human weapon would do better? Vibration or not, its still going to take two hits to punch through that shield.

  • 09.02.2009 10:09 PM PDT

When you think that you have it all is the moment that you can lose it. Don't think ahead if you can't think for the present.

Posted by: Hylebos
The humans have a melee ranged weapon. Its called the Shotgun. Its a melee range weapon that any human infantry can use. Designing a weapon that can only be used by 40 out of the hundreds of thousands of infantry at the UNSC's disposal is stupid.

Human Swords / Knives / Machetes aren't happening. Look at the bruteshot. It has a huge blade on it yet it still takes two hits to kill people. Why do you think any human weapon would do better? Vibration or not, its still going to take two hits to punch through that shield.


I think you misinterpreted the use of the word, 'melee'. Melee is defined as hand to hand combat, so I don't think that the shotgun can ever be considered that other than bashing which any weapon in the game can do. Besides, don't you think the spartan laser could be used by Spartans alone? I think not since I have seen ODSTs in the upcoming game and H3 use it. So why not the use of a sword that anyone can use with only a bit more difficulty for ODSTs?

This is purely an idea that may ever even happen, but just like anyone else who posts here with an idea, it can always be considered. Hey, don't forget that energy swords punch right through shields with a one shot, the same is applied through the ultrasonic vibrations of the sword to bypass the shielding of anyone else.

  • 09.02.2009 10:18 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

A Spartans fists are just as effective.

  • 09.02.2009 10:21 PM PDT

Posted by: MasterSin
Which it contradicts this statement if you played Halo Wars in the last cinema when the 3 Spartans fight hand to hand against, like what? 10 Elite blue armor? But oh well...


That wasn't hand to hand. They had shotguns and other weaponry the whole time. No one really expects someone with an SMG to come charging in and jump on your chest while shooting.

  • 09.02.2009 10:52 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Rune174
Actually Piraka, Halo in and of itself a very unique sci-fi game all on its own. Its why its so popular. I would be saying that many games have been copying halo, not the other way around.

Apparently your not a fan of 80's Sci Fi horror.

Halo has taken ALOT of ideas straight out of both the Alien AND Predator Movies. Also, Come on, Master Chief is TOTALLY Robocop meets the Terminator.

  • 09.02.2009 10:55 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: Paladin52
Posted by: MasterSin
Which it contradicts this statement if you played Halo Wars in the last cinema when the 3 Spartans fight hand to hand against, like what? 10 Elite blue armor? But oh well...


That wasn't hand to hand. They had shotguns and other weaponry the whole time. No one really expects someone with an SMG to come charging in and jump on your chest while shooting.

Halo Wars' story was a Fan-Boy piece of S**t that broke Canon on OVER 9000 levels.

Other than that it was a FANTASTIC game, however.

Anyway, Im just going to stop here by saying there is no point in adding any UNSC melee weapon because the Energy Sword would win EVERY TIME.

  • 09.02.2009 11:00 PM PDT
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PSA: Please do not spam my inbox with group invites, those who do will be ignored and probably insulted.

My problem is the name. The sword is a weapon not a vehicle. Most UNSC vehicles are names after animals (Warthog, Mongoose, Hornet, Pelican, etc.). No UNSC weapons are names after animals though.

  • 09.02.2009 11:25 PM PDT

When you think that you have it all is the moment that you can lose it. Don't think ahead if you can't think for the present.

I'm not saying its just a UNSC weapon. When you think about it, there are going to be other Spartans that may appear through the course of the game, most of which dies from either the fall from orbit, or the battle to defend the generators for the orbital MAC cannons.

Siince there are weapons scattered about during the battles, especially since some of the Spartans prefered close combat (Like Fred), it is definately possible to find them and could be implemented.

There is always a point to add something, I mean, is there not a reason for the Beam Rifle in Halo 2 and 3? No, but it was added anyways because people wanted it. After all, I would like to see something happening, and as I have stated, made a simple suggestion, and why, and if it catches on, great, if not, oh well.

  • 09.02.2009 11:26 PM PDT
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No.

Posted by: Rune174
Posted by: master piraka
Posted by: Rune174
Actually Piraka, Halo in and of itself a very unique sci-fi game all on its own. Its why its so popular. I would be saying that many games have been copying halo, not the other way around.


Watched a sci-fi movie from the 80's or 90's lately?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brEzYdLrPws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y07I_KER5fE

Halo is just one big throwback, dude. A damn good one at that. Sorry.


I don't think halo is anything like Aliens other than maybe the Flood, and I don't remember anything that is insect-like other than maybe the drones.


Oh yeah. And the marines look NOTHING like the Aliens colonial marines right? LOL!

THEY EVEN HAD THE SAME GOD DAMN EYE PEICE!!!

Did you even look at any of the human tech in Aliens? Halo was inspired a LOT by that movie. The USCM Sulaco? THe pillar of autumn looks a LOT like it. The Dropship? The pelican looks a LOT like it. Look, man. YOu have to be absoluteley BLIND not to see any parallels here.

  • 09.02.2009 11:52 PM PDT

War, War never changes.

Got my Recon from the Vidmaster achievments, like most.
Reach IS awesome, don't deny it

There was a UNSC knife. Well acttually it was a machete. But it would have been in Halo: CE but it was removed.
The machete

  • 09.03.2009 12:18 AM PDT
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Posted by: Tucker 051
Spartan III's were ONI which means that they are Navy not army. And Kurt trained not "Kurtis".
Those "suits of armor that were scrapped" were also MJOLNIR, just earlier MK I, II and III models.


O.N.I stand for Office of Naval Intelligence. That plus the rank of Master Chief is exclusive to servicemen in the Navy or Coast Guard, I would have to say that Spartans are part of the Navy.

  • 09.03.2009 6:25 AM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

Plus, they fly Spaceships. Could you be more Naval?

  • 09.03.2009 6:27 AM PDT

I think that rune is right we should have a sword i mean having another sword is allot of trouble like fan boys saying i wanna dual wield them! and I want a brute sword and crap like that but the hummingbird is a good idea. !like maybe the hummingbird might be like the katana shaped sword that's a body on halo 3. Maybe even the game would have a scene where a frightened marine charged at a brute with the sword in his hand and the brute shot the marine in the face with a mauler and was like "Silly Human!" Lol i think that would be FUNNY. Also there really needs to be a short ranged weapon equal to the energy sword becuase i dont think that the energy sword being able to lung is a good enough substitute for the shotgun having so much more power. Its allot easier to have a hummingbird because shotguns have to much power. I'm not taking shotguns out of the picture I'm just saying that hummingbird should be matched with energy sword and shotgun should be matched with ether a more powerful un-dual wield-able mauler or dual wielded mauler.I dont know about you guys but halo need a bigger variety of weapons becuase games like halo need more strategy then just going in with powerful weapons shooting the heck out of everything.So i like ideas of weapons like the hummingbird because it adds variety and more variety means more ways to play the game.If anyone here thinks that isint the way to go then PM me and tell me what YOU THINK is the right way to go.
So to sum it all up i agree with Rune about the hummingbird and you guys really need to stop thinking about the vibro whatchamacallit becuase seriously if you all only think about that (no offense) but you dont have a life

  • 09.03.2009 6:50 AM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

What?

  • 09.03.2009 6:54 AM PDT

"many imitations, but only one!"

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W A T C H !

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  • 09.03.2009 6:57 AM PDT

One, do not post that here, -blam!-. Next, I think a sword for Spartans only would be fine. They could implement it to combat Energy Swords, and eventually recreate the vibration for smaller weapons.

  • 09.03.2009 7:09 AM PDT

Posted by: Rune174
Posted by: Hylebos
The humans have a melee ranged weapon. Its called the Shotgun. Its a melee range weapon that any human infantry can use. Designing a weapon that can only be used by 40 out of the hundreds of thousands of infantry at the UNSC's disposal is stupid.

Human Swords / Knives / Machetes aren't happening. Look at the bruteshot. It has a huge blade on it yet it still takes two hits to kill people. Why do you think any human weapon would do better? Vibration or not, its still going to take two hits to punch through that shield.


I think you misinterpreted the use of the word, 'melee'. Melee is defined as hand to hand combat, so I don't think that the shotgun can ever be considered that other than bashing which any weapon in the game can do. Besides, don't you think the spartan laser could be used by Spartans alone? I think not since I have seen ODSTs in the upcoming game and H3 use it. So why not the use of a sword that anyone can use with only a bit more difficulty for ODSTs?

Spartan laser is actually just a nickname, comparing the laser's strength to a spartan. Its actually called a Galileian laser in the fiction.

I think you misinterpreted my use of the phrase "melee range". From a game design standpoint, the shotgun is melee range because it kills in one hit at melee range. To classify it as a close range weapon makes no sense because it functions very differently from the AR SMG and Spiker. Every melee range weapon in the game has a mechanic to "catch up" to users outside of melee range so they are more versatile. Swords Lunge. Hammers Lunge with a gravity well. Shotguns do minimal damage outside of melee range.

My point still stands: the niche for a human range weapon that can kill in one hit up close is already filled, why do we need a clone of the energy sword?

Hey, don't forget that energy swords punch right through shields with a one shot, the same is applied through the ultrasonic vibrations of the sword to bypass the shielding of anyone else.
Because plasma / energy doesn't shatter when its vibrated fast enough to accomplish that.

[Edited on 09.03.2009 10:01 AM PDT]

  • 09.03.2009 10:00 AM PDT

When you think that you have it all is the moment that you can lose it. Don't think ahead if you can't think for the present.

Exactly, and the Hummingbird is the nickname for the sword due to the sound emitted by the blade as it softly hums, much like a humming bird, which is a very powerful bird as well since it can beat it's wings hundreds of times per minute.

Dude, no matter how you say it, the shotgun is not a melee weapon, it is a projectile based piece of weaponry that fires slugs, which, as you say, is at melee range, but not the same thing as hand to hand combat.

Humans should have at least one melee weapon in the game, because one, it could actually be part of a unique weapon triangle:
Energy sword beats Hummingbird
Hummingbird beats Gravity Hammer
Gravity Hammer Beats Energy Sword

Two, it would balance the number of weapons between the two races. And finally, it would not be a single hit kill weapon, it would take one shot to rip through the shielding, and the second to kill them. Still it would only be one kill for grunts or drones or anything unshielded. The tech from the Covies are so vast, it would be understandable that the sword is not as superior to the energy sword, but it would at least combat it.

Finally, plasma energy would be easily parted by bullet fire, so why not a heavy handed strike with a sword that can at least break the shield.

  • 09.03.2009 12:36 PM PDT

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