- last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT
Oh, yes, I know. The thing is, I'm not interested in being nice any more. And the B.net members being anti-idiot?! Ha, that's a good one. This site would have about five members if that were true.
Anyway, here's about what the thread looked like.
Yes, kids, another satirical thread. If you can't handle that don't post.
And for my second disclaimer, I point out that I don't actually think having better aim is cheating. And that this thread is not about the BR, the spawns on Coag, camping with the sword, or any of the other examples I might bring up. It is about the superjump and the superjump only. And if you want to try for the implied meaning, it's about Bungie fixing the incredibly broad definition of cheating that causes so much confusion, and maybe for once coming out and saying something concrete. Keep it on topic please.
Anyway, I played this game on Coag once. My team spawned in the middle on the dark-side hill and the other team spawned two at Red and two at Blue. Obviously, they got the snipers for free and killed us in the middle while we tried to shoot back with SMGs. The SMG isn't very good against the sniper at long range, though, so we couldn't really do anything. And while two were spawnkilling us the other two got the rocket launcher and the banshees and mopped up anyone who managed to get past the snipers. We lost, big time. And of course, being the dutiful little boy I am, I left all four of those dirty hackers cheating feedback. After all, they were using something in the game to give themselves an unfair advantage. They spawned by the snipers and we didn't, and everyone knows that having a sniper is a huge advantage when your target is far away and can't shoot back. It wasn't fair that they spawned on the snipers and got them and they had an unfair advantage every time we saw them. Anyone who spawns like this is a cheater and should be banned right away.
But spammy, you say, you could have used strategy to get the weapons instead of milling around like bait!
And I say that it's much easier to shoot down a superjumper on Zanzibar than it is to get the snipers back on a huge open map like Coag.
And this other time I was playing a game on Midship. I came around a corner and I got beat down by the sword guy who was camping in the room. I don't know if he won the game, but when it was over I left that stinky cheating haxor a load of cheating feedback. Come on, he had an unfair advantage! Did I have a sword? No, I had a plasma rifle and the sword is way better. I couldn't have done what he did because I didn't have one; the advantage was only available to him because at the time, he had the sword and there's only one on the map at a time. Now that I think of it, I should have left him like fifty cheating feedbacks, because this guy was the ultimate haxor! Not only did he have a better weapon, but he was using the walls to hide himself! He was using an aspect of the game, the limited line-of-sight, to give himself an unfair advantage that the players he killed couldn't have had! After all, only one sword guy can hide in a corner, and players walking around obviously can't because it's already taken. Furthermore, I bet he was using his motion tracker. Ooh, that guy was a haxor alright. He had a distinct advantage over me because he knew exactly when I would walk through that door! This advantage ws unavailable to me, of course, because he wasn't moving, so it was unfair because I couldn't have had it at that time. I declare anyone who ever has a better weapon, uses the map, or watches the motion tracker to be a filthy cheater and ask that Bungie ban them at once. They ruin this game.
Oh, and another time I was playing a game on Lockout. It was BR-start and this guy and I ran into each other. We started shooting at the same time, but I missed a few shots and he didn't, so he killed me. I made sure to remember his gamertag so that I could leave him cheating feedback after the game. It's cheaters like this that make the game no fun to play. He gave himself an incredible advantage by having better aim. I couldn't have had better aim, so maybe he's just better at the game than I am. That's defnintely an advantage, and one that wasn't available to me at the time. It was certainly unfair, because the only reason he killed me was that he aimed more quickly and more accurately than I did. The advantage wasn't available to me because maybe I don't play as much as he does or maybe I'm just not as good and can't aim as well. I say anyone who four-shots with the Battle Rifle or has better aim than another player is a cheating scumbag and should be permanently banned from XBox Live.
Yes, that was rather ridiculous. That's exactly the point. Bungie's definition of cheating is so vague that just about anything can be called cheating if you phrase it right. And if you decide that the superjump is cheating by that vague definition, then you must consider the above examples cheating as well. The fact that Bungie won't ban for it doesn't mean that it's NOT cheating, but as I've demonstrated, the fact that it fits Bungie's definition doesn't mean it's cheating either. It may be cheap, and those examples are, but it isn't cheating.
And for the record, I neither condone cheating nor use the superjump.
[Edited on 6/22/2005]