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Subject: Um, you guys do know that the silhouettes are mostly ODSTs, right?

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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Now, obviously, the silhouette on the far left is a spartan, but look at the others closely, you can use the silhouettes in privet cabooses pinned post, if you want. I do not wish to take credit for those masterfully done pictures, and so appropriating them for my forum post would be wrong.

First, look at the scale, using the chain gun-wielding spartan as a measuring stick. Spartans are supposed to be 7 to 9 feet tall, in full armor. Now look at the other silhouettes. They look to be approximately 5-7 feet, which is the normal diversity ratio for a human, even if the guy with the sniper rifle stood up, he'd be as tall as the person next to him, another human. The figure in the middle may be a spartan, but the others are ODSTs by scale (even if the one who is standing slightly behind the rest moved up, he/she would fit the scale.

Next, look at the details we can see. Let's start with the sniper. Notice that bumpy ridge protruding from his head? Does that remind you of anyone? Yep. Those are ODST sniper goggles. Okay, so what if it's a spartan with goggles? Why would a spartan need goggles? They have a perfectly functional pair integrated into their helmets.

Now, look at the figure next to the odst sniper. Upon a closer look, it appears as if it is carrying a UNSC issue combat knife. So what's so special about that? The spartans were never issued knifes, they were a purely odst/marine weapon. Ergo, in light of this info, combined with the scale factor, the figure must be an odst.

Lastly, look at the figure standing a bit behind everybody, partially obscured by the spartans. The armor the figure is wearing is form-fitting and shows a feminine figure. The spartans armor has always been described as bulky, and standardized for every spartan, whether male or female. That armor simply isn't bulky enough to constitute a spartan's figure. Now, about the figure in the middle. He is carrying a battle-rifle, which if you have read the novel First Strike, you would realize that the spartan were the only soldiers who got to use it during reach, and soon after.

Too many people are misunderstanding what I am trying to say. I'm not saying that they are all ODSTs, i'm saying that one or two of them have a high probability of being one.

Also, the knife theory has been disproved. Thanks to all of you whom set me straight. I haven't really heard a viable argument against any of my other ideas yet so.............

[Edited on 09.04.2009 7:39 AM PDT]

  • 09.03.2009 9:55 PM PDT

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

ODST;MYTHIC Screenshot winner! One of the first to get their hands on the mythic map pack.

We will see when the game comes out okay? Don't claim to know everything, it makes you look arrogant. Yes I have assumed things, and I have thought strongly of my own opinions and thoughts. But I'm just saying, you could be wrong, and don't be surprised if you are. Don't be surprised if you are flamed also, no one likes an arrogant poster.

  • 09.03.2009 9:59 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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l | --------____.`=====.-.~:________\___|================[oo]
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Do i really come off as arrogant? I didn't mean to be.

  • 09.03.2009 10:00 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Spartans are around 7 feet tall in general, some were taller, some were a bit shorter.
Spartans don't get "issued" weapons they can pick whatever they want really so you're statement on knives fails. The Armor is form-fitting and can we skinnier in some areas depending on the wearer.

Of course it is possible that they are marines, but you cannot say that they are definitely Marines.

[Edited on 09.03.2009 10:03 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2009 10:02 PM PDT

Whoever said they were one squad?
Maybe there is one odst, a few spartans and some other character from the novels.
And there are different types of mjolnir armor, and no type is solid armor. (there are gaps for mobility e.g. the hips and shoulders)
This means that the spartans body shape will show, even if it is only slightly.
You cant cram... everything... into one size of chest piece anyway.
I think it is more likely mk 4 mjolnir armor, which is much more minimalistic than the mk 5

  • 09.03.2009 10:04 PM PDT

Also, consider that the squad from ODST all have different helmet permutations. I'm sure the spartans had access to all of that equipment. In the novels, they were granted access to pretty much anything they wanted. It's not too far fetched to suggest that there may be different Mark V helmet variations than the one the Master Chief wore. I can see where you're coming from, but you're subject line suggests that you're sure that they're all ODSTs.

  • 09.03.2009 10:12 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Joe Staten just confirmed that this is a spartan based game.

Not ODST, sorry to burst your bubble.

  • 09.03.2009 10:14 PM PDT

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

ODST;MYTHIC Screenshot winner! One of the first to get their hands on the mythic map pack.

Even is so, you need a scale or a comparison between an ODST and a Spartan. If you don't have the scale or the comparison you can't know if they are 7 feet tall or 4 feet tall. Besides, they all have the same leg armour, which points to them being all the same, either they are all Spartans, or they are all ODST.

Sorry for saying you are arrogant, you really aren't, it is just when you say things like you know it is truth, it sounds a little arrogant.

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Posted by: privet caboose
For the 100,000th time, Sierra =/=Spartan!


Ahhh, hypocrisy... but Sierra isn't a spartan so why would they have some random guy in the trailer instead of a Spartan in a Spartan based game?

[Edited on 09.03.2009 10:21 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2009 10:20 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Dasherr
Posted by: privet caboose
For the 100,000th time, Sierra =/=Spartan!


Ahhh, hypocrisy... but Sierra isn't a spartan so why would they have some random guy in the trailer instead of a Spartan in a Spartan based game?


Pelican? Marines?

Why have covenant in a spartan based game?

  • 09.03.2009 10:21 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Dasherr
Posted by: privet caboose
For the 100,000th time, Sierra =/=Spartan!


Ahhh, hypocrisy... but Sierra isn't a spartan so why would they have some random guy in the trailer instead of a Spartan in a Spartan based game?


Pelican? Marines?

Why have covenant in a spartan based game?


Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrnnnnnnnnn!!!!

  • 09.03.2009 10:24 PM PDT

"First Strke" starts with a spartan twirling his combat knife...
lol
"The spartans were never issued knifes"
Retard..

EDIT: (First Paragraph of First Strike)
SPARTAN-104, Frederic, twirled a combat knife, his fingers
nimble despite the bulky MJOLNIR combat armor that encased
his body. The blade traced a complicated series of graceful arcs
in the air. The few remaining Naval personnel on the deck turned
pale and averted their eyes-a Spartan wielding a knife was generally
accompanied by the presence of several dead bodies.


[Edited on 09.03.2009 10:30 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2009 10:25 PM PDT

First of all, how can you tell how tall someone is in a picture, that makes someone no more than an inch tall?

And I'm sorry there sir, the Spartans WERE issued with combat knives. Just because in the games you run around whacking stuff with your fists, it doesn't mean Spartans don't have knives. Master Chief probably doesn't have a knife, but many Spartans do. Did.

Read the books. 'Nuff said.

  • 09.03.2009 10:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Dasherr
Posted by: privet caboose
For the 100,000th time, Sierra =/=Spartan!


Ahhh, hypocrisy... but Sierra isn't a spartan so why would they have some random guy in the trailer instead of a Spartan in a Spartan based game?


Pelican? Marines?

Why have covenant in a spartan based game?


Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrnnnnnnnnn!!!!


That'd make sense if this wasn't a trailer for that spartan based game, I'm going to assume that english isn't your first language so I won't bother some people just can't accept reality.

[Edited on 09.03.2009 10:38 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2009 10:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Posted by: Dasherr
Posted by: Tucker 051
Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Dasherr
Posted by: privet caboose
For the 100,000th time, Sierra =/=Spartan!


Ahhh, hypocrisy... but Sierra isn't a spartan so why would they have some random guy in the trailer instead of a Spartan in a Spartan based game?


Pelican? Marines?

Why have covenant in a spartan based game?


Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrnnnnnnnnn!!!!


That'd make sense if this wasn't a trailer for that spartan based game, I'm going to assume that english isn't your first language so I won't bother some people just can't accept reality.


All the Halo games were Spartan based games.

  • 09.03.2009 11:04 PM PDT
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Yeah all halo games were except ODST, but when has bungie ever made a trailer that had nothing to do with the main character(s) of the game.

  • 09.03.2009 11:11 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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Posted by: privet caboose
Joe Staten just confirmed that this is a spartan based game.

Not ODST, sorry to burst your bubble.


So? are ODSTs not welcome in a halo game? I'm not saying that they are ALL ODSTs, i'm saying there is a high probability that there is a mix of the two.

  • 09.03.2009 11:12 PM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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l | --------____.`=====.-.~:________\___|================[oo]
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Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Whoever said they were one squad?
Maybe there is one odst, a few spartans and some other character from the novels.
And there are different types of mjolnir armor, and no type is solid armor. (there are gaps for mobility e.g. the hips and shoulders)
This means that the spartans body shape will show, even if it is only slightly.
You cant cram... everything... into one size of chest piece anyway.
I think it is more likely mk 4 mjolnir armor, which is much more minimalistic than the mk 5


It is true that some figure would poke through, but that much?

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yes

[Edited on 09.03.2009 11:52 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2009 11:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Awkward_Zombie
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Whoever said they were one squad?
Maybe there is one odst, a few spartans and some other character from the novels.
And there are different types of mjolnir armor, and no type is solid armor. (there are gaps for mobility e.g. the hips and shoulders)
This means that the spartans body shape will show, even if it is only slightly.
You cant cram... everything... into one size of chest piece anyway.
I think it is more likely mk 4 mjolnir armor, which is much more minimalistic than the mk 5


It is true that some figure would poke through, but that much?

yes that much, or maybe its not an armored soldier

  • 09.04.2009 2:49 AM PDT

Check out the group, Planet Reach and talk about Bungie's next game without the annoyance of the public forum. Oh and it's nice there too.

You thought you had lag, it took Jesus 3 days to re-spawn.

Joe did hint (read, strongly suggest) that we're playing as a squad of Spartans in Reach. I'll just stick with what he alluded to, and that being that those silhouettes are Spartans.

[Edited on 09.04.2009 2:58 AM PDT]

  • 09.04.2009 2:58 AM PDT

The point of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his.- Gen. George S. Patton.

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l | --------____.`=====.-.~:________\___|================[oo]
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Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Posted by: Awkward_Zombie
Posted by: Jak O Bladez
Whoever said they were one squad?
Maybe there is one odst, a few spartans and some other character from the novels.
And there are different types of mjolnir armor, and no type is solid armor. (there are gaps for mobility e.g. the hips and shoulders)
This means that the spartans body shape will show, even if it is only slightly.
You cant cram... everything... into one size of chest piece anyway.
I think it is more likely mk 4 mjolnir armor, which is much more minimalistic than the mk 5



It is true that some figure would poke through, but that much?

yes that much, or maybe its not an armored soldier


So why the hell would they show a spartan without armor?

[Edited on 09.04.2009 7:40 AM PDT]

  • 09.04.2009 7:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

They look like Spartan's to me, except the Sniper, it looks too much like an ODST

  • 09.04.2009 7:39 AM PDT

You're like, the bee's knees: you have helped me out a LOT in the past and you're a genuinely nice guy, and you deserve all the best for the good you've done me and surely done others
Count Peter, you're one of the only people I respect on here. Not that that means much on a forum, but still.

Yes because approximations made from sillouetes will always be correct.....

  • 09.04.2009 7:40 AM PDT