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Posted by: xAssault12x
Posted by: EldritchWarlord
Let me make somethings very clear.
The idea that there were no Brutes on Reach is nothing more than fanon, an assumption that fills in canonical gaps and may very well be false. The minor detail in The Fall of Reach saying that Elites and Hunters were completely unknown until 2552 has been retconned away by both Halo Wars and The Cole Protocol.
I believe that a similar thing is happening to the minor detail in First Strike that Brutes were almost completely unknown until after the Battle of Reach. It is being retconned to the new canon that Brutes were deployed throughout the war, though the Elites were the heavily favored choice. This is implied by many things: the familiarity Marines have with Brutes in Halo 2 and 3, the existence of Brutes in ODST, and the recently released "We Are ODST" trailer showing a Brute foe on a planet that is very likely not Earth.
I have no problem with this retconning, especially since the details were fairly stupid in my opinion.
Furthermore there's no reason that the Spirit of Fire couldn't make it back to the UNSC in time for the Red Team members aboard to die on Reach. They really don't know about the Flood more than the greater UNSC does, they only knew the Flood as an especially fascinating and dangerous lifeform inhabiting a planet that they blew up.
Brief tangent aside my point is I for one would welcome Brutes in Halo Reach, for both campaign and multiplayer. Variety is the spice of life after all, and encounters with Brutes would add even more to the Covenant arsenal (as well as adding more customization options to multiplayer).
You are absolutely right. I believe the argument that most people like myslef are making is that there is no definitive proof either way that the Brutes will be in the game, and people who take either side are simply speculating. There are large blocks of time in the Halo First Strike in which we don't know what a sertain group of people were doing. Bungie could very well slip in an encounter with Brutes in one of those blocks of time.
The point I have been trying to make is we will not know until Bungie tells us. I personally believe that they most likely will not be in the campaigne, and if they are then I think they will make a small appearence and that would be the only time we see them. The overwhelming majority of the game we will face Elites. Even if the Brutes are not in the game I still think that the Brute weapons will be in the multiplayer.
The more I think about this topic, the more I think the Brutes will be in the game, but they will only appear in one small part of the game where they were on some kind of mission or protecting something and you have to kill them. After that small part they will not make another appearence, but I am speculating when I talk about their roll in the game so I will just have to wait and see.
One part I disagree on is the Spirit of Fire. If it made it back before Reach was destroyed then the UNSC would have known some basic information about the Flood, and it would have known how dangerous the Flood could be. Cortana would have picked up on this information because, as we see in the books, Cortana likes to use her skills to hack into secure UNSC data banks, files, and ONI computers to see what kind of information she can look at. The Flood would have been a major topic of discussion for many top UNSC Officers and the ONI because of it's terrible capability to spread. Cortana would no doubt have stumbled onto information about the Flood when she was hacking into some secure file or computer just for fun. If she had stumbled onto information about the Flood then she would have known what is was when she got to the first Halo with MC.
Plus, the ONI went crazy over the Flood and tried to get all the information they could from MC and Cortana about the Flood because they had never seen it before, and this was after Halo CE. If Spirit of Fire had made it back then ONI would have gone as crazy over the Flood.
There is a 99.999% chance that Brutes will NOT be part of the main Covenant forces.