- xAssault12x
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I'm xAssault12x, and I love the Halo Universe. Discussion please!
Posted by: WNxkenetic
Posted by: xAssault12x
Posted by: WNxkenetic
Posted by: xAssault12x
Posted by: WNxkenetic
I don't understand why people believe the story is being "bent" in any way. The brutes have existed in the Halo universe since day one, There's no alteration in story if they add an enemy already in existence to an area where it wasn't mentioned. Hell for all we know drones where in Halo CE, but we just never saw them. The fact of the matter is that the story is perfectly fine with NO changes whatsoever if Brutes are added.
The Elites were in charge of the attack on Reach. Elites hated Brutes and didn't trust them with anything at all. That is set in stone FACT. The Elites would never use the Brutes at Reach. It was not until after the First Halo was destroyed that the Brutes got to go to the front lines and take command of powerful Covenant ships. Before that the Brutes had a small fleet of old piece of crap ships that the Elites discarded because they were too old.
The Brutes were there all along but they were not involved in the battle at Reach. That is why we don't want to see them. They weren't at Reach in the books so they shouldn't be there now.
Who is this "we"? Also, engineers were in none of the games, though they were in the books. As well as the Super Flood(Cant remember the name) in Halo 2. It's logical fallacy to believe that if something isn't mentioned it's an impossibility to exist.
I'm NOT saying they didn't exist. They were just NEVER in the battle. To just add them in would be to ignore everything we know about the Elites and how they act. If Brutes are thrown into the battle at Reach then that implies that the Elite in charge wanted to use them. That would NEVER happen. Elites didn't use Brutes for anything because they Hated the Brutes. That is in the books.
We didn't see engineers because Bungie never had the time or budget or desire to use them until now. What point would a floating thing that carries no weapons and does no harm have in a game.
Enter Halo 3 ODST. The Brutes control the Covenant army, and because they are dumb, they decide to put bombs on all their engineers and use them as mines so that when they all blow up they have nothing to fix their equipment.
The so called "Super Flood thing" was the Gravemind.
No not the gravemind, its name was the Juggernaut Also, let us take a real world example of how your logic is a fallacy. Society. Society is the biggest proof against your argument. You hate someone, you don't kill them, you tolerate them. You may hate mexicans, or black people, or white people, it doesn't matter, you will still employ them. The thing is, if it wasn't specifically stated that there were absolutely NO BRUTES WHATSOEVER on Reach, then it's still in the realm of probability.
Also, Halo CE and Reach were created before brutes were created, as well as many of the concept vehicles in Halo 2. Phantoms were never even alluded to in Halo CE, Reach, or The Flood, in yet in First Strike, I believe they pilot a phantom(perhaps a spirit, Im a bit iffy on the details)
I thought you were refering to the Gravemind.
You use Human society as your example but we are not talking about humans. We are talking about the Covenant. From every piece of information we have, the Elites hated the Brutes and never used them or even let them serve on their ships until after Halo CE. That is how the official story goes. Bungie was able to introduce the Brutes and say that they were around since the begining but we never saw them because they were never used by the Elites. The Elites ran the war against Humanity. They never used Brutes or let Brutes even fight witht them. That is FACT.
Stop using fancy words like logic and fallacy. I have fact that is in official Halo cannon. The Elites were in charge of the battle of Reach and they would never use Brutes because they hate them. Remember, we are talking about Elites in the Covenant. Their society is NOTHING like ours. Let me show you the "FALLACY" in your "LOGIC." You compaired Covenant society to Human society. They ar NOTHING alike.
Elites NEVER used or served with Brutes until Truth intigrated them into the Covenant fleet after Halo CE. We see that around the time of Halo 2 the Elites are talking about how the Brutes are getting promoted very rapidly and it concerns them. That meens that the Brutes were low level nobodies until Truth started putting them in charge around the time Halo Ce ends and all the way to the Covenant civil war.