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Subject: Halo is not Call of Duty.

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true that. i trust bungie and pretty much they say goes and usually what goes is good

  • 09.08.2009 2:14 PM PDT

Danny

true

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  • 09.08.2009 2:24 PM PDT

Posted by: s5 SnipEmo
There should not be any Classes (EDIT: Sorry, somebody made me point out that COD did not invent classes), Perks, Armor Advantages, EXP Ranking system, or Squads. I understand you guys want Halo: Reach to be different, but turning it into COD is not helping anything. Nothing is wrong with Halo 3 besides the Tru-Skill system which promotes cheating and boosting. But gameplay wise Halo 3 is fine and STILL has the most players.

Discuss,
Lucky

1. Its called a different game mode. It doesn't have to be the whole game if I do remember COD has a game mode where you pick up weapons but people don't Call it Call of Duty: We just ripped off Halo. And Plus Call of Duty is the henry ford of FPS gaming. 98% of their ideas are not original most ideas like Classes knifes and Vehicles in Online gaming stemed from Battlefield 1942 of The Battlefield Franchise, that goes much overlooked even though they pioneered it.

2. I love Halo 3 but I hate the ranking system I go down then I get pissed leave the game and get rank banned. This rank system was based on the idea everyone playing wasn't a complete idiot, witch it is a nice idea is complete wrong depending on people you've never talked to who have no mic ruins game play. COD has a nice flowing game play that rewards you when your team wins but focuses on individual achievement. I don't mean to sound like a fan boy because their are a lot of things I don't like about COD, like perks mostly juggernaut and martyrdom and some unhistorically correct things in WAW like the huge use of silencers and scopes and attack dogs.

3. Ive thought of a Game system that would make good sense

Class would be like this and instead of being RvB it would be humans v covenent
Light Assault-
Assault rife or some kind of two handed plasma rifle for Covenent
x2 grenades
Specialty-Bullet Sheild 5% more health

Heavy Assault-
BR or Covenent Carbine
x0 grenades
specialty grenade luncher- Blows up on impact or if hits a person or vehical directly acts as a sticky grendades

ODST
Silenced SMG or Plasma rifle
x1 grenade
Specialty- Stealth Have the ability to use a Invis for about 15 secounds

Sniper
Sniper Rifle or Plasma Rifle
x2
Specialty- 20% more damage on Auto Mag

Anti Armor-
Spunker-3 Missles or Toned up Fussion Rod Gun-
Guns were custom made to inject molten metal into the vehicles and unless you hit someone directly with your 1/3 rockets then its going to be Anti Armor only
Specialty-Trip mines- But please don't be so shiny you would have to purposely run them over

4. I like your comments as much as you hate mine so please let loose and I'll officially say

LET THE FLAMING BEGIN




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  • 09.08.2009 2:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: ABotelho
Now for people like you: Stop assuming COD invented everything not-Halo.

All the things you said were made before COD. Were not making Halo into COD, we want to add features to the game.

Well said. If Bungie thinks that the gameplay will be better with classes, I will trust them. I could use a bit of a change of gameplay anyways.

  • 09.08.2009 3:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rubber Ducky929
Class would be like this and instead of being RvB it would be humans v covenent
Light Assault-
Assault rife or some kind of two handed plasma rifle for Covenent
x2 grenades
Specialty-Bullet Sheild 5% more health

Heavy Assault-
BR or Covenent Carbine
x0 grenades
specialty grenade luncher- Blows up on impact or if hits a person or vehical directly acts as a sticky grendades

ODST
Silenced SMG or Plasma rifle
x1 grenade
Specialty- Stealth Have the ability to use a Invis for about 15 secounds

Sniper
Sniper Rifle or Plasma Rifle
x2
Specialty- 20% more damage on Auto Mag

Anti Armor-
Spunker-3 Missles or Toned up Fussion Rod Gun-
Guns were custom made to inject molten metal into the vehicles and unless you hit someone directly with your 1/3 rockets then its going to be Anti Armor only
Specialty-Trip mines- But please don't be so shiny you would have to purposely run them over


So its the generic Assault, Heavy, Demo, Recon, Sniper classes? Good job coming up with that yourself. Its not like this could have copied these from another game and had its weapons replaced with Halo stuff. Make something unique or STFU.

[Edited on 09.08.2009 3:41 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2009 3:39 PM PDT

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game engine is fine. the game design took a step backwards. BR needs to remove spread so it's still not overcompensating for the H2 hitscan BR. Melee needs to go back to first hit, first kill; you know, so skill still matters instead of the "everyone's a winner!," short bus mentality H3 wears with pride. Map design has just been terrible; there's no shame in admitting they peaked with H2 dlc, so bring back a bunch of your best from prior games and bring in some fresh blood to create new maps (and don't hire any more people in love with the factory, industrial, ugly ass brown look plaguing half of all H3 maps). Bring back an elo-based ranking system, aka the one that worked.

  • 09.08.2009 3:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Rubber Ducky929
1. Its called a different game mode. It doesn't have to be the whole game if I do remember COD has a game mode where you pick up weapons but people don't Call it Call of Duty: We just ripped off Halo. And Plus Call of Duty is the henry ford of FPS gaming. 98% of their ideas are not original most ideas like Classes knifes and Vehicles in Online gaming stemed from Battlefield 1942 of The Battlefield Franchise, that goes much overlooked even though they pioneered it.
History lesson: BF didn't pioneer any of those. Team Fortress, CS, and Halo practically perfected each of those respective aspects in shooters before BF1942 even came out, and for the most part they weren't the first shooters to have those features either.

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  • 09.08.2009 3:46 PM PDT
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Maybe there should be a gamemode that lets u choose classes, like in CoD 4 there's a mode that lets u pick up guns along the way like in halo (Old School). but i don't really want this.

  • 09.08.2009 3:49 PM PDT

-blam!- zombies = firefight. i'm not gonna say how they are similar its obvious.

look, we have all been playin the same multiplayer game since halo 1... adding features that are similar to other games isn't bad, look at firefight...

so all you CoD haters get a grip.

Change is Good.

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Halo '3' is about simple gameplay, halo '3' is about everyone being equal, halo '3' will still be played by people who like it like that.

Halo 'Reach' is being made to suit a larger group of people. if people dont like it they will just keep playing halo 3. big deal?

  • 09.08.2009 3:59 PM PDT

I personally love both halo and Call of Duty. And both for the same reason. REALISm. Halo is actually very realistic. The aliens with the plasma weapons maybe arent that realistic, but hey theyre and advanced culture. Halo is very realistic when it comes to the UNSC though. The reason there is a HUD is because the guy wears a helmet. Thats why you dont need to "aim down the sights" However if bungie were to ever make a halo game that put you in the shoes of a marine, I think Aiming down the sights would be very neccessery. ANYWAY, I think both series are great games and that you dont have to choose one over the other. I am equally excited about halo 3 odst as i am Modern Warfare 2.

  • 09.08.2009 4:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Foviet
Halo '3' is about simple gameplay, halo '3' is about everyone being equal, halo '3' will still be played by people who like it like that.

Halo 'Reach' is being made to suit a larger group of people. if people dont like it they will just keep playing halo 3. big deal?

Halo Reach is being made to suit a larger group of people? Good job pulling information out of your ass. Why do people post random assumptions like they are facts? Besides Halo 3 isn't really what I wanted. Forge, Theater and the Fileshare were great but I really want a game that plays like Halo CE did. What game can I play on Xbox Live that plays like Halo CE smartass?

Posted by: unakron
-blam!- zombies = firefight. i'm not gonna say how they are similar its obvious.

look, we have all been playin the same multiplayer game since halo 1... adding features that are similar to other games isn't bad, look at firefight...

so all you CoD haters get a grip.

Change is Good.


survival mode = survival mode, Who would have guessed. Its not like Bungie had a zombie mode being added to Halo 3 ODST. You can't say Bungie stole the survival mode idea from Gears or WaW because the Marathon Durandal remake for the XBLA had one and that came out before both. Lets not forget the survival mode was done way before the Marathon remake.

  • 09.08.2009 4:31 PM PDT
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You can't kill what's dead.

Stand. Fight. Resist. S2F.

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If the feature is popular and works in a previous game, why not expand upon it and add it to another game?

Adding a common shooter element to a game does not make the game CoD or Gears or Battlefield, or whatever.


Thats a good point really. I wouldnt mind small changes at all. But I guess people really want to be careful about what there is going to be in the game so it doesnt look like an obvious copy of something else.

  • 09.08.2009 4:34 PM PDT
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Call of duty didnt invent EXP Ranking system, perks, custom guns or airstrikes.

  • 09.08.2009 4:35 PM PDT

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I would like to see the jumping in H:R to be more realistic. Not in terms of height as that seems possible considering Spartans have superhuman strength, but why is it only humans are effected by moon gravity why everything else is has Earth's gravity? Enough with the moon man nonsense.

  • 09.08.2009 5:25 PM PDT

Posted by: Morg211
Screw all these ideas about classes, Maps have weapon placements on Halo for a reason

What fun is nearly everybody fighting over the rocket launcher if it's not there

What fun is it that you would be able to play halo and experience a sniper infested map from start such as CoD 4's overgrown

What fun would it be charging for valhallas laser when it's not there

NONE

Most of us people like halo for what it is, what it has been and what it always will be Classes would just be ruining it!


QF -blam!- T

  • 09.08.2009 6:16 PM PDT

no, ur wrong halo are the next cal of duty :(((

It are have pearks an dogs n foodstuffs an helicaptars an hot coffe mod :((

  • 09.08.2009 6:30 PM PDT

Excellent. Nod grows stronger by your victories.

Posted by: s5 SnipEmo
There should not be any Classes


Amen.

  • 09.08.2009 7:46 PM PDT

there are alot of threads about halo and call of duty.




alot.

  • 09.08.2009 8:49 PM PDT

This thread only became a hot topic because people read the words "Call of Duty" and thought:

What?! A game besides Halo that might actually have some good concepts? We have to flame it because we can't think that maybe, the key to a better game is using concepts from other games, and improving upon them!
Posted by: Silly Biscit
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Why do you guys equate everything to CoD?

"I think Halo: Reach needs a better ranking system"
"NOez CODZ!"

"I think Halo: Reach should have new weapons"
"NOez CODZ!"

I think Halo: Reach should have better sounding guns"
"NOez CODZ!"
you win

"I wonder who Spartan 259 could be.."
"NOez CODZ!"

Grow up people.

  • 09.08.2009 9:21 PM PDT

BOOM DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: s5 SnipEmo
There should not be any Classes (EDIT: Sorry, somebody made me point out that COD did not invent classes), Perks, Armor Advantages, EXP Ranking system, or Squads. I understand you guys want Halo: Reach to be different, but turning it into COD is not helping anything. Nothing is wrong with Halo 3 besides the Tru-Skill system which promotes cheating and boosting. But gameplay wise Halo 3 is fine and STILL has the most players.

Discuss,
Lucky
I like CoD's ranking and health sysems much more than halo's.................and we should at least have the option to choose our starting weapon instead of classes.

  • 09.10.2009 3:06 PM PDT

BOOM DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: XSV HUNGRYHIPPO
I agree ! I hate little 10 year old kids who go on these forums asking for a call of halo.
I'm way past 10 years old and I want halo to at least have better health and rank systems like CoD's and the option to choose a starting weapon.

  • 09.10.2009 3:09 PM PDT

keep in mind that the people saying they want those things more than likely play CoD just as much as Halo and are kind of casual, occasional players who want to combine the best of both worlds.

  • 09.10.2009 3:43 PM PDT

In the days of old, there were legends of a land long lost to time. This land was known as Ranna'Mor. Ranna'Mor was said to contain in its borders 7 warriors. These warriors had once unleashed a veritable hell upon the ancient world, until they were locked away. My name is Toriad, and I am one of those warriors. Our return is approaching. Do not run away, do not cower in fear; take solace in your final days, for that is all we can do. -Legend of Ranna'Mor

I wouldn't mind a squad based game too much, but I definitely don't want classes. Halo is great because, at the start, no on has definitive advantage. The two weapon system forces a player to think about what weapons to go for and which one to carry with him/her.

And I definitely hate that higher ranks in COD gives you better weapon or whatever. It's just unfair and unbalanced.

  • 09.10.2009 4:15 PM PDT