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Subject: Please make covenant vehicles better

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As we all know human vehicles are better than covenant vehicles
tank>wraith
hornet>banshee
hog>prowler

and then you have the mongoose but that doesn't count since I'm talking about vehicles with guns
(yes I am aware of the chopper and ghost)

In reach, the wraith should have a sped up mortar shot, and be able to turn FASTER! like in halo 2 fast, halo 3 = slooooooooooowwwwwwwww, and some more splash damage on the wratih mortar, since that thing is HUGE. The wraith just isn't balanced with the tank AT ALL.
The reason the hornet is better than the banshee is because the fuel rod cannon's ridiculous arc and the plasma shots. The plasma moves too slow to be able to hit the hornet at far ranges and gets destroyed in 2 seconds from the hornets chain guns. Also the looking of the banshee needs to be better, as in being able to look straight down, and straight up, also able to hover in the air. (pretty much the halo 1 banshee but with faster plasma and faster)
Prowler sucks compared to the hog because of plasma travel time.





Also I would like to see plasma projectiles in general move faster.


EDIT: Since I don't want to keep saying the same stuff I will make a list of the changes I want to the vehicles (yes I am aware I already said it but its for organization)

Wraith: Faster turn speed, more armor, the plasma mortar should move faster, and go farther. Also an option to switch to accurate mode, this would make a little circle, and wherever the circle was, the wraith would fire on it. You could also choose to switch to the regular mortar mode if you wanted to.
Ghost: The ghost is fine, but speed up the plasma a little more.
Chopper: Chopper is fine.
Prowler: More armor, and speed up the plasma so you can ACTUALLY HIT SOMETHING
Banshee: Basically the maneuverability of the H1 banshee (looking straight up and down, and hovering mid air) and the plasma sped up, and the fuel rod cannon similar to the H2 one, but with homing on vehicles.
Plasma pistol and rifle: The plasma rifle should be more accurate, bring back plasma stun from h1, increase speed slightly. The plasma pistol should pretty much be like the halo 1 version, where it doesnt take 21 shots to kill someone..... and 2 maybe 3 charge shots to kill


[Edited on 09.06.2009 9:33 AM PDT]

  • 09.05.2009 8:58 PM PDT
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the banshee is more of an airplane while the hornet is a helicopter and i agree with the vechicales but the covenant used wraiths like arltillery so most of the times it works but we are always on the assualt team in the halo games but thats just me and covenant ground forces like tanks are bad since they rely on air power

  • 09.05.2009 9:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sergeant Basil9
the banshee is more of an airplane while the hornet is a helicopter and i agree with the vechicales but the covenant used wraiths like arltillery so most of the times it works but we are always on the assualt team in the halo games but thats just me and covenant ground forces like tanks are bad since they rely on air power


I realize that it's more of an airplane, but it should be able to look straight up and down. Also hovering has been seen in halo 1 and halowars so that's a must.
Also the fuel rods should travel a straight distance and faster for a longer period of time and lock on to vehicles.

  • 09.05.2009 9:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

I wouldn't necessarily agree. The banshee beats the transport hornet, but yes the regular hornet is the best. As for the wraith/tank, I believe if on level ground and equal shots to eachother, the wraith will win. Plus the wraith's shots arc, so it helps for the hills on Avalanche. Chopper beats hog because it can throw it around, hog beats ghost. Gauss hog beats chopper. I would say they're fairly even. I don't think Bungie wanted the covenant to be on equal
terms with the humans, rather they wanted to combine all the vehicles and seperate them by role in each base. That's why there is no human wraith (Rhino) or covenant main battle tank in the games.

Though Bungie could try and make them the same type of vehicle for both sides (human and covenant artillery). Kinda like Battlefield.

  • 09.05.2009 9:29 PM PDT

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In halo wars its the same thing :[ wraiths get pwned by scorpions ghost gets owned by warthog banshee get destroyed by hornet it not fair :[[[[ we should have new covenant vehicles in halo reach!

  • 09.05.2009 9:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: P3P5I
I wouldn't necessarily agree. The banshee beats the transport hornet, but yes the regular hornet is the best. As for the wraith/tank, I believe if on level ground and equal shots to eachother, the wraith will win. Plus the wraith's shots arc, so it helps for the hills on Avalanche. Chopper beats hog because it can throw it around, hog beats ghost. Gauss hog beats chopper. I would say they're fairly even. I don't think Bungie wanted the covenant to be on equal
terms with the humans, rather they wanted to combine all the vehicles and seperate them by role in each base. That's why there is no human wraith (Rhino) or covenant main battle tank in the games.

Though Bungie could try and make them the same type of vehicle for both sides (human and covenant artillery). Kinda like Battlefield.


wraith gets beet by tank even if they fire same amount of shots besides in combat the tank can dodge all of te wraith shots if far enough :P

  • 09.05.2009 9:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: an emo orphan
The Scorpion Tank dies in 3 shots from a Wraith while a Wraith dies from 2 shots from a Scorpion Tank.

Even if that was true (which it isnt) the scorpion shot travels almost instantly, all the tank has to do is keep its distance, and the wraith can't do ANYTHING.

  • 09.05.2009 9:37 PM PDT

play halo wars. covenant is for more size. human is more of power of one

  • 09.05.2009 10:05 PM PDT

blarg, bow chicka wow wow, boomshakalaka,

covenant everythings should be better. plasma weapons are far to weak. the fuel rod guns sucks giant hairy breasticles, and the human weapons are better than the covanent. what ever happened to "alien weapons that are far advanced to our own" or something like that

  • 09.05.2009 11:12 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

more armor for prowlers.

More maneuverability for the Wraith

A critical hit spot (like the gas tank on the Ghost in H2, and the back of the Wraith in H3) for each vehicle.

  • 09.05.2009 11:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: gnxROUGE
play halo wars. covenant is for more size. human is more of power of one

While this balance may work for an RTS, it doesn't for for a FPS at all.


I would also like to see some discussion on the speeding up of plasma weaponry.

  • 09.06.2009 9:17 AM PDT
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Posted by: Uncle Kulikov
A critical hit spot (like the gas tank on the Ghost in H2,.


I thought I was the only one to know it!

  • 09.06.2009 9:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: TubbierPainter
you said something about the hornet chain gun? a wart hog chain gun is better trust me

I was talking about how the hornet beats the banshee because the chain guns bullets travel instantly and do MORE DAMAGE than the plasma cannon that takes forever to hit a target and does less damage.

  • 09.06.2009 9:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: TubbierPainter
you said something about the hornet chain gun? a wart hog chain gun is better trust me

I was talking about how the hornet beats the banshee because the chain guns bullets travel instantly and do MORE DAMAGE than the plasma cannon that takes forever to hit a target and does less damage.

it still not THAT good


The chain gun on the hornet is the same as the hog one, I am referring to the regular hornet by the way.

  • 09.06.2009 9:35 AM PDT

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The fire rate is fine. I'm talking about the speed of the plasma, so it will be able to compete with the hornet.

  • 09.06.2009 11:56 AM PDT

I know about the UNSC vehicles being more powerfull than the Covenant vehicles

Especially with the Wraith,I mean is sad enough you can destroy one with the Sniper Rifle on the weakspot on the back(it takes a few shots)

  • 09.06.2009 12:17 PM PDT

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I just think the Banshee needs to have a speed increase.

Bring back the Spectre.

Make the Transport Warhogs (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/M831_TT) ridable. Meaning we should be able to get on the back and sides.

Bring back the Shadow, and make them drivable.

  • 09.06.2009 12:55 PM PDT

I think if they brought in the Locust and the Vampire from halo wars they would beat the UNSC vehicles.

  • 09.06.2009 1:00 PM PDT
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Ah, faster plasma as in the good old halo 2 spectre, am i correct?

  • 09.07.2009 11:01 AM PDT

Posted by: c17
Ah, faster plasma as in the good old halo 2 spectre, am i correct?

Don't forget about the turret on the Shadow.

  • 09.07.2009 11:13 AM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

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Ah, faster plasma as in the good old halo 2 spectre, am i correct?

Don't forget about the turret on the Shadow.


Agreed. Speed up the plasma rounds.

Add more armor to the Prowler and Specter.

Add more armor to the Wraith, make it more maneuverable (actually go up the hill on Valhalla).

Add a weak spot for each vehicle.
Wraith: little port in the back
Ghost: fuel tank
Warthog: fuel tank in the undercarriage
Banshee: wing pods, or the inside of the tailfins
Hornet: Wing turbines
Scorpion tank: magazine under the rear hatch
Prowler: engine (the little thing that spins, visible from the drivers seat)
Specter: Booster engine in the back
Chopper: underside of the seat (visible from back)
Mongoose: fuel tank, tucked between the rear wheels

  • 09.07.2009 11:40 AM PDT

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