Halo 1 & 2 for PC
This topic has moved here: Subject: Halo 3: ODST For PC
  • Subject: Halo 3: ODST For PC
Subject: Halo 3: ODST For PC

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!

lol someone had to start this thread sooner or later. How ironic that it's a 360 fanboy. Anyways, yeah, I think if they do release ODST for PC, it will be merged with Halo 3 into one PC game.

  • 09.07.2009 10:51 AM PDT

I'll be the first to say it, so I'll say it nice and loud.
Eh-ehem.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo.

  • 09.07.2009 11:02 AM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!

Posted by: Zekkalkan
I'll be the first to say it, so I'll say it nice and loud.
Eh-ehem.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo.


lol y not?

  • 09.07.2009 11:20 AM PDT

Halo Games on PC are just shy of EPIC FAILURE.

  • 09.07.2009 11:41 AM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!

Posted by: LoneStaruner
Halo Games on PC are just shy of EPIC FAILURE.


There have only been 2 PC ports of Halo. And you know what they say, 3rd time is a charm.

  • 09.07.2009 11:54 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: LoneStaruner
Halo Games on PC are just shy of EPIC FAILURE.


There have only been 2 PC ports of Halo. And you know what they say, 3rd time is a charm.


it has to be a single release. it would be stupid to make them separate.

Halo 3 PC = all the games and modes below.

Halo 3 Campaign

Halo 3 ODST Campaign + Firefight

Halo 3 Multiplayer (all Multiplayer maps, includes DLC)

Halo 3 Editing Kit (better be awesome, and more open sourced)
let us has all your campaign and multiplayer content, aswell as us being able to make custom content.

here is a great package, Halo 3 PC. :D Name your price Bungie.
I would be happy to pay any amount for this... ;)

I'm also sure that, if this is released for all OS's, it'll sell very well.

[Edited on 09.07.2009 12:41 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2009 12:36 PM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!

Posted by: Moifugley
Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: LoneStaruner
Halo Games on PC are just shy of EPIC FAILURE.


There have only been 2 PC ports of Halo. And you know what they say, 3rd time is a charm.


it has to be a single release. it would be stupid to make them separate.

Halo 3 PC = all the games and modes below.

Halo 3 Campaign

Halo 3 ODST Campaign + Firefight

Halo 3 Multiplayer (all Multiplayer maps, includes DLC)

Halo 3 Editing Kit (better be awesome, and more open sourced)
let us has all your campaign and multiplayer content, aswell as us being able to make custom content.

here is a great package, Halo 3 PC. :D Name your price Bungie.
I would be happy to pay any amount for this... ;)

I'm also sure that, if this is released for all OS's, it'll sell very well.


It would have to be released on Windows Vista and Windows 7 because Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST PC would most likely take advantage of DirectX 11 which is not available on any OS except for Windows Vista and Windows 7.

  • 09.07.2009 12:51 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: Moifugley
Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: LoneStaruner
Halo Games on PC are just shy of EPIC FAILURE.


There have only been 2 PC ports of Halo. And you know what they say, 3rd time is a charm.


it has to be a single release. it would be stupid to make them separate.

Halo 3 PC = all the games and modes below.

Halo 3 Campaign

Halo 3 ODST Campaign + Firefight

Halo 3 Multiplayer (all Multiplayer maps, includes DLC)

Halo 3 Editing Kit (better be awesome, and more open sourced)
let us has all your campaign and multiplayer content, aswell as us being able to make custom content.

here is a great package, Halo 3 PC. :D Name your price Bungie.
I would be happy to pay any amount for this... ;)

I'm also sure that, if this is released for all OS's, it'll sell very well.


It would have to be released on Windows Vista and Windows 7 because Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST PC would most likely take advantage of DirectX 11 which is not available on any OS except for Windows Vista and Windows 7.
remember what happened with Halo 2 "Vista" ???
It should support DX9, 10 & 11, also 64 bit support :D

[Edited on 09.07.2009 12:57 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2009 12:55 PM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!

Posted by: Moifugley
Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: Moifugley
Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: LoneStaruner
Halo Games on PC are just shy of EPIC FAILURE.


There have only been 2 PC ports of Halo. And you know what they say, 3rd time is a charm.


it has to be a single release. it would be stupid to make them separate.

Halo 3 PC = all the games and modes below.

Halo 3 Campaign

Halo 3 ODST Campaign + Firefight

Halo 3 Multiplayer (all Multiplayer maps, includes DLC)

Halo 3 Editing Kit (better be awesome, and more open sourced)
let us has all your campaign and multiplayer content, aswell as us being able to make custom content.

here is a great package, Halo 3 PC. :D Name your price Bungie.
I would be happy to pay any amount for this... ;)

I'm also sure that, if this is released for all OS's, it'll sell very well.


It would have to be released on Windows Vista and Windows 7 because Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST PC would most likely take advantage of DirectX 11 which is not available on any OS except for Windows Vista and Windows 7.
remember what happened with Halo 2 "Vista" ???
It should support DX9, 10 & 11, also 64 bit support :D


It will support 64 bit. But as for DirectX 9, that will never happen. It's for the same reason Microsoft doesn't make games for the original xbox anymore.

  • 09.07.2009 1:16 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Legendary Member
  • gamertag: Btcc22
  • user homepage:

Not supporting DX9 would be an amazingly dense move regardless of whether or not they support XP, although not supporting XP would be equally dense.

Just because somebody's running Vista/7 it doesn't mean they're able to use the newest versions of DirectX.

Every other developer manages it, and any games that don't aren't worth the discs they're on. In other words, H2PC.

[Edited on 09.07.2009 4:00 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2009 3:58 PM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!

Posted by: Btcc22
Not supporting DX9 would be an amazingly dense move regardless of whether or not they support XP, although not supporting XP would be equally dense.

Just because somebody's running Vista/7 it doesn't mean they're able to use the newest versions of DirectX.

Every other developer manages it, and any games that don't aren't worth the discs they're on. In other words, H2PC.


Still DX9 is 2 version old. That'd be the equivalent of them making Halo 3 PC on Windows 2000. Never gonna happen.

  • 09.07.2009 5:59 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Elder Heroic Member

Join the Modacity Forums - a community focusing on the modding abilities of Halo PC, Halo CE, and Halo 2 PC.

They are not going to rewrite the engine to support anything above DirectX 9.0. The Xbox 360 uses a modified version of DirectX 9.0c, so just like with Halo 2 for Windows Vista, you'll see a complete graphical clone. There's a less than 1% chance that it might take advantage of some DirectX 10 capabilities, but it's rather useless to go there if the game wasn't built for it in the first place.

  • 09.07.2009 6:03 PM PDT

Bring Back Rocket Race!!!

Posted by: jcap
They are not going to rewrite the engine to support anything above DirectX 9.0. The Xbox 360 uses a modified version of DirectX 9.0c, so just like with Halo 2 for Windows Vista, you'll see a complete graphical clone. There's a less than 1% chance that it might take advantage of some DirectX 10 capabilities, but it's rather useless to go there if the game wasn't built for it in the first place.


Actually Halo 2 PC already uses DirectX 10 instead of DirectX 9. That's why it was Windows Vista exclusive because only Windows Vista supports DirextX10.

  • 09.07.2009 6:15 PM PDT

This is an old account iDarkWint3r is my new Bungie.net user.

Halo 3 for PC is going to take a while to make.Actually we already knew this.JUST SAYING!

  • 09.07.2009 6:49 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Elder Heroic Member

Join the Modacity Forums - a community focusing on the modding abilities of Halo PC, Halo CE, and Halo 2 PC.

Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: jcap
They are not going to rewrite the engine to support anything above DirectX 9.0. The Xbox 360 uses a modified version of DirectX 9.0c, so just like with Halo 2 for Windows Vista, you'll see a complete graphical clone. There's a less than 1% chance that it might take advantage of some DirectX 10 capabilities, but it's rather useless to go there if the game wasn't built for it in the first place.


Actually Halo 2 PC already uses DirectX 10 instead of DirectX 9. That's why it was Windows Vista exclusive because only Windows Vista supports DirextX10.


No, it does not. Halo 2 for Windows Vista uses DirectX 9.

Funny you said in your post that it had to be exclusive because only Windows Vista and up support DirectX 10. But, if that was the case, it would mean that H2V would not be able to run on XP. Well, it does. H2V runs just as good, if not better on Windows XP with DirectX 9 than Windows Vista. The only thing that was said about H2V is that DX10 users might be able to experience some performance benefits, but that is only due to DirectX 10 optimization for older versions.

  • 09.07.2009 8:46 PM PDT

Halo Custom Edition: p0lar_bearâ„¢
Favorite Server: Diesel PL 3rd Server - NY

My Maps:
BioHalo v1.1a Singleplayer Map for CE

BUNGIE HAS CUT CUSTOM SINGLE-PLAYER SUPPORT FROM HALO 2 VISTA. COPY, PASTE, AND BOLDFACE THIS INTO YOUR SIGNATURE IF YOU ARE AGAINST THIS CUT.

Whatever the case, if they do port Halo 3, they'd better do it right. Meaning that Microsoft Game Studios better actually look at what succeeded and what failed by their decisions in the last two games, as well as what other game studios are doing and how THEY failed and succeeded, and actually have whichever game studio (or crack team) they hire out do more than just some half-ass port that screams "we only want your money." The engine on both Halo PC and Halo 2 Vista do not warrant the performance strains they have when running the game on a machine that meets the minimum requirements.

And ODST should, at the most, be an Expansion Pack.

[Edited on 09.07.2009 9:42 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2009 9:42 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

My Gamer Tag is
I REP GA

----------------
my gaming channel-
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/halo-3-m-s

Posted by: LoneStaruner
Halo Games on PC are just shy of EPIC FAILURE.

Dear god.. BAN THIS MAN TO THE GATES OF HELL!!!

I'm not joking

  • 09.07.2009 11:20 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Legendary Member
  • gamertag: JB 199
  • user homepage:

halo 2 still the best game in the series. long live halo 2.

Dam, I miss the old days playing halo 2 with my old brothers in arms. Thank you my old friends for giving me this account, I shall continue our legacy.

If they do decide to do it, I hope they learned from past mistakes and also offer us an incentive to buy halo 3/odst for the pc.

  • 09.07.2009 11:57 PM PDT

My Youtube - Halo 2 Online Co-op
BUNGIE AND MICROSOFT FAILS HALO 2 VISTA.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: jcap
Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: jcap
They are not going to rewrite the engine to support anything above DirectX 9.0. The Xbox 360 uses a modified version of DirectX 9.0c, so just like with Halo 2 for Windows Vista, you'll see a complete graphical clone. There's a less than 1% chance that it might take advantage of some DirectX 10 capabilities, but it's rather useless to go there if the game wasn't built for it in the first place.


Actually Halo 2 PC already uses DirectX 10 instead of DirectX 9. That's why it was Windows Vista exclusive because only Windows Vista supports DirextX10.


No, it does not. Halo 2 for Windows Vista uses DirectX 9.

Funny you said in your post that it had to be exclusive because only Windows Vista and up support DirectX 10. But, if that was the case, it would mean that H2V would not be able to run on XP. Well, it does. H2V runs just as good, if not better on Windows XP with DirectX 9 than Windows Vista. The only thing that was said about H2V is that DX10 users might be able to experience some performance benefits, but that is only due to DirectX 10 optimization for older versions.
Halo 2 for Windows Vista FAQ - Bungie's answers to Halo 2 "Vista" = Ultimate Fail
Will the game work on Microsoft Windows XP?

No, as the name suggests, Halo 2 for Windows Vista will only run on the upcoming Microsoft Windows Vista operating system. The game is tied to Windows Vista in order to take advantage of new Live functionality and multiplayer features that aren't avaialble on XP or other operating systems.
I don't see any new live features. anyone see what they are?

There is "nothing" that justifies the reason for this game to be "Vista" exclusive.

[Edited on 09.08.2009 1:41 AM PDT]

  • 09.08.2009 1:33 AM PDT
  •  | 
  • Senior Heroic Member

<------Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, Halo: Reach, and Halo 4 emblem.

It seems as there is a very low chance for Halo 3 to be ported to the PC as someone mentioned a package that contains Halo 3 and it's stand alone expansion pack. However, Halo 3 ODST does have a strong chance on making it to the PC based on my assumptions. This game ported to the PC would probably only have Campaign, Firefight, and Xbox Live features in it.

  • 09.08.2009 1:41 AM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Legendary Member
  • gamertag: Btcc22
  • user homepage:

Posted by: General Heed
Posted by: Btcc22
Not supporting DX9 would be an amazingly dense move regardless of whether or not they support XP, although not supporting XP would be equally dense.

Just because somebody's running Vista/7 it doesn't mean they're able to use the newest versions of DirectX.

Every other developer manages it, and any games that don't aren't worth the discs they're on. In other words, H2PC.


Still DX9 is 2 version old. That'd be the equivalent of them making Halo 3 PC on Windows 2000. Never gonna happen.


It doesn't matter if it's two versions old. The fact remains that most people won't have DirectX11 hardware and that vast majority of machines run Windows XP.

Dare I say that if XP was still easily available that it would hold more than the current market share of over 70%.

Games are going to be coming out for XP for a while to come.

[Edited on 09.08.2009 1:58 AM PDT]

  • 09.08.2009 1:57 AM PDT

Daodan Latency at 65%

Ok, shall we think about this?

Microsoft takes possession of Bungie Studios and take their new shooter title from the Mac/Windows platform to Microsoft's new console platform. Later, Microsoft/Bungie have Gearbox make a PC port of the game, and then a few years after that Microsoft has Macsoft/Westlake make a port for the Mac platform. Then, we have Halo 2. Halo 2 was also originally developed for the xbox, Microsoft's gaming platform, and then later on Microsoft decides to make a port of it themselves. They produce Halo 2 for Windows Vista, and their sales do not develop as well as the original Halo 1 port. Bungie Studios/Microsoft produce and put out Halo 3. Now Microsoft makes the move of letting Bungie Studios be a separate company. Now any sort of port of ANY of their games would rely solely on a third party company coming to them and saying "Lets do a port". Right now that is not a plausible thing. Making ports of games is fluff, why would a game development studio want to risk pouring money and resources into making a port of a game that is already selling? What if the port fails, what if the port is more cost than it is worth? These are all aspects that you have to consider when doing this. There is no magical build button that will compile a game for another platform just because you press it. Moving a game from a console to a non-console is a very hard process. There are aspects you have to consider such as what hardware specs will it support? A quick google search lead me to some information that the Xbox 360 cannot run DirectX 10. This is some very interesting information, that means what you see on your TV while playing Halo 3 is DirectX 9, not 10, not 11. So why would you want to spend the time trying to upgrade the version of DirectX it uses? Honestly if I were to make a port of a game, that would be one of the last things I would do. Why? because that is a LOT of work.

Another point to make, Halo 3 is optimized to be read off the disc. It performs slower while installed onto the HD of the xbox. To do that on a non-console platform makes no sense at all. All games rely on being read off the HD to be played. This would require a reworking of how the game works. It would have to compensate differently in order to allow for the data to be read off the HD instead of the DVD.

A console such as the Xbox was made to play games on. That is the sole purpose of the console. A desktop computer is for computing. That might be rendering models, compiling code, writing your english homework, or checking your email. Granted desktop computers can play games as well, but that is because the developers know they are marketing to a larger audience of people if you put out a game on that platform. Everyone and their grandparents have a computers these days, so who wants to go buy a system to play the game you want on? Unless I already have the system I am not going to buy that game. It does not make sense for me to spend any additional money to get the game AND they system to play the game. But if it is released for a desktop platform I know I can play it, so I will just go get it.

Inclosing, porting games takes a long time and a lot of effort and work. A lot more than you might think it does. You might want to keep this in mind when you make these threads -blam!-ing about something that you obviously know nothing about.

  • 09.08.2009 6:35 AM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Legendary Member
  • gamertag: Btcc22
  • user homepage:

Struggling to grasp the point of that post, but I certainly don't understand why a developer would be the ones needing to make the approach to do a port. Microsoft owns the Halo IP, not Bungie.

For a professional development studio, adding in features from a newer version of D3D would actually not be that hard either.

As for the game needing to be redone to use a drive properly, that's really basic stuff. If a development studio has a tough time figuring out how to load files from a drive instead of a DVD then blimey.

  • 09.08.2009 7:44 AM PDT
  •  | 
  • Noble Legendary Member

Halo 1&2 PC forum's resident OC ReMixer. Like rockified and metalized video game music? Subscribe to my YouTube channel.

Yeah. That's right. I don't have a 50 in H3. I never got Onyx in Reach. If a game sucks too much, I won't even bother trying for such trivial "accolades". Besides, I've done way more things that take far more skill and talent than anything that can be done in a video game.

Posted by: SeanSparrow
Posted by: LoneStaruner
Halo Games on PC are just shy of EPIC FAILURE.

Dear god.. BAN THIS MAN TO THE GATES OF HELL!!!

I'm not joking

Why? He speaks the truth. Every Halo game on the PC pales in comparison to good PC FPS games.

As far as Halo 3 supporting DX9; You guys do know the Xbox 360 is locked in at DX9, right? So not only is DX9 possible, but native to the game. This was also stated in Dirk's post if it was tl;dr for you.

And before a noob storm springs up, I'm gonna say this right now: If you're a console kid and don't know crap about PC gaming, don't even bother posting about the topic.

  • 09.08.2009 8:21 AM PDT

Daodan Latency at 65%

Honestly I am just tired of seeing these "HALO 3 FOR PC!!!!111ELEVEN!OMG!" threads when the OPs don't understand how development of these products works.

OHWAIT....SHHHHHHH.....I forgot to mention the magic button that does this all for me in a few sections. I just turn this dial here to "Halo 3" and this dial here to "Commodore64" and hit this red button marked "Go" and just wait. Presto! I have Halo 3 for my Commodore64!

Xbox 360 is locked on DX9. ATI, one of the hardware devs has comfirmed this. That means you will not have the same caliber of games on your Xbox that you have on your PC. Why do you think that games like Mirrors Edge, Assassin's Creed, Halo 2, and many many more all have DX9 executables as well as DX10 ones? Because the game was most likely originally developed for the Xbox where the max it could use was DX9. The DX10 versions are the same as the DX9 except they have some additional eye candy that is not that hard or time consuming to add onto the DX9.

  • 09.08.2009 8:29 AM PDT