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Subject: Energy Sword: I found a way to make the sword dual weildable

In the irst Halo games it wasn't necessary to dual weild the sword because is one hit kill, so it was just too strong.


But what if you would have to fight multiple Elites with swords? I saw that if firefight you can fight many Chieftains like 5 or more...
So if you fight 5 Ulta Elites maybe one sword won't be enough, 2 swords would be useful


this sounds a little crazy I know... xD but It could work...
do you guys think this would work?

example: 5 Ulta Elites come to attack you... you have one sword. You attack one Elite the other 4 attack you = Elites win, dual weild swords would be useful to attack more than one enemy.
Obviously the enemies in Halo Reach will be harder to kill than the previous Halo games, thats why new upgrades like this one will be needed

(NOT FOR CAMPAIGN, FOR FIREFIGHT MODE)

[Edited on 09.07.2009 4:02 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2009 12:29 PM PDT

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No.

For the last time, DUAL WIELD SWORDS WOULD NOT WORK. FACE IT. They cancel each other out and the graphics would look messed up (The swords would get in the way of each other.)

  • 09.07.2009 12:34 PM PDT
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I can imagine myself against several enemies with GUNS... but 5 or more elites all running at me from every angles? no. I don't have eyes behind the head. yet.

it'd have to be a cutscene or maybe a quick time event to work.

  • 09.07.2009 12:34 PM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

Posted by: z0rgy
I can imagine myself against several enemies with GUNS... but 5 or more elites all running at me from every angles? no. I don't have eyes behind the head. yet.

it'd have to be a cutscene or maybe a quick time event to work.


It may work in cutscenes, but Halo shouldnt have quick time events. They dont suit it.

  • 09.07.2009 12:36 PM PDT

Posted by: Rammal94
No.

For the last time, DUAL WIELD SWORDS WOULD NOT WORK. FACE IT. They cancel each other out and the graphics would look messed up (The swords would get in the way of each other.)



relax... whats wrong with you?!?!? it was just an idea...
I don't really care about the sword, I prefer the Spear.

  • 09.07.2009 12:37 PM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

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Posted by: Rammal94
No.

For the last time, DUAL WIELD SWORDS WOULD NOT WORK. FACE IT. They cancel each other out and the graphics would look messed up (The swords would get in the way of each other.)



relax... whats wrong with you?!?!? it was just an idea...
I don't really care about the sword, I prefer the Spear.


Because this idea has been posted a lot now and its pretty obvious it just wouldnt work.

  • 09.07.2009 12:38 PM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
I can imagine myself against several enemies with GUNS... but 5 or more elites all running at me from every angles? no. I don't have eyes behind the head. yet.

it'd have to be a cutscene or maybe a quick time event to work.



that may work... quick time events would be good.

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no

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Posted by: Councilor_117H2
Posted by: z0rgy
I can imagine myself against several enemies with GUNS... but 5 or more elites all running at me from every angles? no. I don't have eyes behind the head. yet.

it'd have to be a cutscene or maybe a quick time event to work.



that may work... quick time events would be good.


quick time events are the worst thing you could add to any game

  • 09.07.2009 12:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lunatic__Brandon
Posted by: Councilor_117H2
Posted by: z0rgy
I can imagine myself against several enemies with GUNS... but 5 or more elites all running at me from every angles? no. I don't have eyes behind the head. yet.

it'd have to be a cutscene or maybe a quick time event to work.



that may work... quick time events would be good.


quick time events are the worst thing you could add to any game

usually, it ends up with pretty cool cutscenes....

  • 09.07.2009 12:49 PM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
Posted by: Lunatic__Brandon
Posted by: Councilor_117H2
Posted by: z0rgy
I can imagine myself against several enemies with GUNS... but 5 or more elites all running at me from every angles? no. I don't have eyes behind the head. yet.

it'd have to be a cutscene or maybe a quick time event to work.



that may work... quick time events would be good.


quick time events are the worst thing you could add to any game

usually, it ends up with pretty cool cutscenes....



true, true...

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Posted by: z0rgy
Posted by: Lunatic__Brandon
Posted by: Councilor_117H2
Posted by: z0rgy
I can imagine myself against several enemies with GUNS... but 5 or more elites all running at me from every angles? no. I don't have eyes behind the head. yet.

it'd have to be a cutscene or maybe a quick time event to work.



that may work... quick time events would be good.


quick time events are the worst thing you could add to any game

usually, it ends up with pretty cool cutscenes....


and some horrible gameplay

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who cares. we're not talking of having the whole game be one QTE cutscene.
I think it'd be fun. or make jacking vehicles QTE... dunno.

  • 09.07.2009 12:53 PM PDT

Yes, really

Posted by: Rammal94
No.

For the last time, DUAL WIELD SWORDS WOULD NOT WORK. FACE IT. They cancel each other out and the graphics would look messed up (The swords would get in the way of each other.)

they wouldnt work reasonably, you mean. whos to say a spartan doesnt have the co-ordination to use 2 swords at one time? it wouldnt make sense however. it would be like being able to use the sword twice as fast. this would be awesome in a cinematic sequence tho. i can see a spartan running into a room with the objective in sight, and 4 or 5 elites stand in his way. and he whips out two stolen swords and does some crazy spin-jump -blam!- and keeps going to the objective.

[Edited on 09.07.2009 12:58 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2009 12:56 PM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
who cares. we're not talking of having the whole game be one QTE cutscene.
I think it'd be fun. or make jacking vehicles QTE... dunno.



TRUE, I'm not talking about change the gameplay just ADD, ADD NEW STUFF! the gameplay would as cool as the other Halo games or even better

  • 09.07.2009 12:57 PM PDT

any spartan could use 2 swords... every human haz 2 hands... is not that hard

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  • 09.07.2009 1:00 PM PDT

7 lines isn't long enough for a signiture! =P

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Maybe if there are cool sword duels in reach.

[Edited on 09.07.2009 1:02 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2009 1:01 PM PDT

Don't ask about the name-- it's a long story

I think your argument is flawed, just because we fight multiple Chieftains with Hammers, doesn't mean that fighting multiple Elites with swords justifies dual-wielding swords. We can't even dual-wield hammers?

  • 09.07.2009 2:05 PM PDT

why bungie would make Halo Reach like Halo 2? and just fight one elite with a sword?? THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE it would be very stupid...

I can't believe I'm saying this... is obvious. We fight many Chieftains in ODST, is VERY LIKELY that we will fight many Elite in Halo Reach, and if we do one sword is not enough the sword is made to fight 1 vs 1 with the Hammer you can fight agains many enemies, dual weild a hammer is horrible and doesn't make sense

[Edited on 09.07.2009 2:27 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2009 2:15 PM PDT
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One way, for duel wield swords to work, is to not dispatch multiple enemies, ( I mean cmon, dispatching multiple enemies at with two swords would only work in cutscenes) but, rather, the capability to easily dispatch one very tough enemy. (examples of tougher than normal enemies, are halo ce zealot elites, halo 2 ultra elites, halo 2 honor guard brutes, etc.)

The bonus of duel wielding swords are somewhat insignifanct however, the lunge distance should be the same, attack speed slightly better, but now, you have a sure fire capability to kill in one hit, this feature, besides being cool and flashy, will allow new players, who would struggle fighting Ultras, Zealots, and/or Brute Chieftans to kill them alot easier, when they have no other power weapons.

This feature should be blocked in multiplayer however, one sword in a map is already enough.

  • 09.07.2009 3:11 PM PDT
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As for the swords hitting each other and looking bad thats a fairly simple fix. A different animation. Yes the current sword animations would look horrible with two swords but that dosnt mean you cant change the animations.

  • 09.07.2009 3:29 PM PDT

My safe-word is apples

In Halo Wars the arbiter used two swords, perhaps we could also face elites that wield more than one? I think that if the sword was held slightly differently, it wouldn't get in the way. Perhaps it could work like dual wielding, one trigger controls one sword? just throwing out my ideas here.

  • 09.07.2009 3:31 PM PDT

Just enjoy the damn game!
Who cares about BR vs AR

There is no point. The sword is usually a one hit kill anyway. Why have more than one?

  • 09.07.2009 3:34 PM PDT

My safe-word is apples

for use on enemies with heavy armor?

  • 09.07.2009 3:36 PM PDT

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