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M'kay. We all know that there have been lots of complaints about the BR being overpowered and people wanting it to stay in and some people want it out. But even if they fixed the AR's accuracy and range, The Gap between the Sniper Rifle and AR would be way too much of a gap. So we need to have a Mid-Long range weapon.
My Solution:

1:Make the BR single shot but with the equivalent power of 2 shots from one 3 round burst from the current BR. Makes sense?

2:Make the ROF a little bit slower. Same with the Sniper Rifle.



EDIT: I Have had some new ideas while typing this. To fix other things.

1:Aim assist. In Halo 1 there was barely any if none. Halo 3 aim assist is so extreme i can follow someone around (While they are making turns as well) Without even trying.

2:Melee. The Melee in Halo 3 right now is kind of absurd. I still think 1 melee in the back should kill, but 2 regular ones can kill someone? I think 3 is more reasonable. And make melee from weapons take longer. (Raise rifle up above head and smash it down, should take about 1.5 second to "recharge".)

Well, that's all for now. Please comment about your opinion about my ideas to fix it and how it is now.
KTHNXBAI!

[Edited on 09.08.2009 10:53 AM PDT]

  • 09.08.2009 10:51 AM PDT
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about the melee... it has nothing to do with the battle rifle itself. it's the same for every weapons.
but I agree, it's ridiculously powerful right now.

  • 09.08.2009 10:57 AM PDT
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We are talking about Campaign, right? I like the idea of 2 shot bursts, decreased rate of fire, but I also think it needs a smaller clip. The way I see it weapons should be like Halo 1; It takes about a whole clip of continuous fire to take down an elites shields, then you either have to reload and risk taking damage, or switch to another weapon for the kill shot. The BR's damage and clip size allows you to strip a brute's shields and kill him without reloading or switching weapons.

  • 09.08.2009 10:57 AM PDT

The AR is rediculously accurate at long range if you know how to burst to near perfection; it drops shields easily a little over three seconds if you do it right, a little slower than the BR. I've "Out BR'd" people from mid/long-range with an AR by bursting and not spraying like a mindless idiot.

Also, Halo: CE had tons of aim assist, which is one of the things that made it (a console game) actually work. Halo 3 just seems to have alot more.

I agree that the BR should be more like the carbine though, with a slightly slower ROF. Anything to make it less of a power weapon and more of a "I'm picking this up because it's effective and nearby" like the rest of the weapons should be.

  • 09.08.2009 10:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: z0rgy
about the melee... it has nothing to do with the battle rifle itself. it's the same for every weapons.
but I agree, it's ridiculously powerful right now.


Oooppsss. I didn't mean just the Battle rifle, that applies to all Non Dual wieldable, non heavy weapons. Small arms and Heavy weapons will have different melee.

  • 09.08.2009 10:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: z0rgy
about the melee... it has nothing to do with the battle rifle itself. it's the same for every weapons.
but I agree, it's ridiculously powerful right now.


Oooppsss. I didn't mean just the Battle rifle, that applies to all Non Dual wieldable, non heavy weapons. Small arms and Heavy weapons will have different melee.


not in halo 3 o.o
all weapons do 70 damage (whether it's the plasma pistol or rocket launcher) except for the spiker, brute shot and mauler. they do 72.

  • 09.08.2009 11:02 AM PDT
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70 out of...?
IDNK that brute weps did more in multiplayer...

  • 09.08.2009 11:03 AM PDT
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a spartan has 100 shield points, and 75 health points, for a total of 175.

  • 09.08.2009 11:05 AM PDT
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0.0
That is WAYYYYYY too much. For punching/Hitting someone with a gun, even if you are a spartan...

  • 09.08.2009 11:09 AM PDT

I don´t feel like the BR is overpowered.

It´s a good weapon if you can handle it, but overpowered? No way

the Carbine is much more accurate.
And it sucks for close quarters combat compared to other weapons like dual weapons shotguns and so on.

  • 09.08.2009 11:09 AM PDT
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I guess it does more shield damage than body damage... because 2 melee kills but do only 140 damage point... o.o that is weird.
just in case you wonder, these are the numbers bungie gave themselves in a BWU... so they're right.

in H2, if you jumped and meleed, you'd do more damage.
you'd do more damage if you run and melee...

<.< like what, H2 was a great game...

  • 09.08.2009 11:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mastachief176
I don´t feel like the BR is overpowered.

It´s a good weapon if you can handle it, but overpowered? No way

the Carbine is much more accurate.
And it sucks for close quarters combat compared to other weapons like dual weapons shotguns and so on.


Whats all this about "Handling it."
I know someone will call me a Burger King cause i dont thinnk the BR Is sooooo great.
And 90% of the time you are NOT in close quarters and you cant find shotguns lying around everywhere, But you sure can find PLENTY of BRs. I think there is 4 or 5 in the each of the Valhalla Bases and at least 7 on the regular parts of the map.

[Edited on 09.08.2009 11:20 AM PDT]

  • 09.08.2009 11:14 AM PDT

Posted by: MrWh1zzy
Posted by: Mastachief176
I don´t feel like the BR is overpowered.

It´s a good weapon if you can handle it, but overpowered? No way

the Carbine is much more accurate.
And it sucks for close quarters combat compared to other weapons like dual weapons shotguns and so on.


Whats all this about "Handling it."
I know someone will call me a Burger King cause i dont thinnk the BR Is sooooo great.
And 90% of the time you are NOT in close quarters and you cant find shotguns lying around everywhere, But you sure can find PLENTY of BRs. I think there is 4 or 5 in the each of the Valhalla Bases and at least 7 on the regular parts of the map.


and so what?

  • 09.08.2009 11:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: MrWh1zzy
Posted by: Mastachief176
I don´t feel like the BR is overpowered.

It´s a good weapon if you can handle it, but overpowered? No way

the Carbine is much more accurate.
And it sucks for close quarters combat compared to other weapons like dual weapons shotguns and so on.


Whats all this about "Handling it."
I know someone will call me a Burger King cause i dont thinnk the BR Is sooooo great.
And 90% of the time you are NOT in close quarters and you cant find shotguns lying around everywhere, But you sure can find PLENTY of BRs. I think there is 4 or 5 in the each of the Valhalla Bases and at least 7 on the regular parts of the map.


and so what?


If your gonna be annoying like that than just leave.

  • 09.08.2009 11:28 AM PDT

I´m not trying to be annoying you just said that there 7 Br`s on the map.
I don´t get what you are trying to say with that???

  • 09.08.2009 11:30 AM PDT
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you said shotgun beats the BR at close range. But its not all that common you find a shotgun and people don't dual wield often. And the shotguns range isn't that great even in CQ.
I just dont think in a game where you start with AR's you should be able to have everyone have a BR. AND with enough ammo for the whole match.

  • 09.08.2009 11:33 AM PDT

ok now i get it ^^
yeah you´re right with that

  • 09.08.2009 11:36 AM PDT
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thank you.

  • 09.08.2009 11:37 AM PDT
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The Battle Rifle does NOT need to be weakened. Halo CE has the best multiplayer and the pistol is way more powerful than the H3 BR.

  • 09.08.2009 11:43 AM PDT

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The Battle Rifle does NOT need to be weakened. Halo CE has the best multiplayer and the pistol is way more powerful than the H3 BR.


In halo ce the pistol became a semi automatic weapon with a slow fire rate compared to the br at br range. So if you sir are implying that the the br needs to be toned down you are sorely mistaken.

[Edited on 09.08.2009 12:16 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2009 12:14 PM PDT

Solution= let Bungie do what Bungie does best, make it the way they want it. If you hate it don't use it(or get used to it), if you like it don't worry about.

  • 09.08.2009 1:00 PM PDT

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BR is far from over powered. I think its the most well rounded weapon in the game and the solution is not to weaken it.

My solution for people who don't know how to use the BR or strafe is grab a shotty or use AR and ambush. Each weapon has benifits and people either need to get better with said weapon or get better with something else because changing weapon dynamics every other month is not going to resolve the issue.

People who are good with BR will always have advantage unless you now want people spamming AR because it will become the well rounded weapon of choice.

Melee is awesome as is.

  • 09.08.2009 1:09 PM PDT

Posted by: TS z3NN 9
BR is far from over powered. I think its the most well rounded weapon in the game and the solution is not to weaken it.

My solution for people who don't know how to use the BR or strafe is grab a shotty or use AR and ambush. Each weapon has benifits and people either need to get better with said weapon or get better with something else because changing weapon dynamics every other month is not going to resolve the issue.

People who are good with BR will always have advantage unless you now want people spamming AR because it will become the well rounded weapon of choice.

Melee is awesome as is.

A lot of people can use the BR (including myself) The problem with it is that you will usually not need to go for any other weapon.
And no the melee is exceptionally flawed.

  • 09.08.2009 1:29 PM PDT

BRs are bad m'kay?

  • 09.08.2009 1:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: TS z3NN 9
BR is far from over powered. I think its the most well rounded weapon in the game and the solution is not to weaken it.

My solution for people who don't know how to use the BR or strafe is grab a shotty or use AR and ambush. Each weapon has benifits and people either need to get better with said weapon or get better with something else because changing weapon dynamics every other month is not going to resolve the issue.

People who are good with BR will always have advantage unless you now want people spamming AR because it will become the well rounded weapon of choice.

Melee is awesome as is.


And how does everyone ed get to these ambush positions. There is no place where someone with a BR can kill you.

  • 09.08.2009 11:58 PM PDT

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