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what mother board is the best gaming board to play on and what afordable graphic card(100$) or less? thank's ahead of time guys!

  • 06.21.2005 1:57 PM PDT
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I feel unloved cry sniff.

  • 06.21.2005 4:36 PM PDT
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Stop Crying - 2.5 hours isn't enough time for everybody to see this thread - we're all in different time zones.

I like the Asus A8N, but it's a little powerful and expensive for what you need. I'd stick with Machspeed, personally - one with a PCIX Slot and Socket 939 (AMD Athlon 64) except.... Machspeed doesn't make a board like that that I know of.

Gigabit is your next best bet, imo - here:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-deta ils.asp?EdpNo=1197993&CatId=0
It has all you need.

This is a good video card - worth the extra $20
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-deta ils.asp?EdpNo=1428468&CatId=0

  • 06.21.2005 7:38 PM PDT
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I don't think the card and motherboard you have inspire are compatable. PCIe and PCIX are different.

  • 06.21.2005 8:38 PM PDT
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I use PCIX to mean PCI Express - I thought they were the same - PM me and educate me, chewy - I'd appreciate it.

  • 06.21.2005 8:46 PM PDT
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Well the board you have there is PCIX. I don't know what the difference it sept that they aren't compatable.

  • 06.21.2005 8:59 PM PDT
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PCIX is a 64-bit slot on server motherboards - I have three on my Rioworks HDAMB. Longest slot on a mobo you'll ever see.

Hmm, well, a good gamer's mobo right now that's cheap is a Chaintech VNF4 Ultra Zenith or some similar <$100 board. They give you an nForce 4 Ultra chipset and a PCI-express slot, along with some other good features. They're more of a barebone-type board.

However, if you want to play games, it's more about the video card, not the mobo, and you need to be prepared to foot more than $100. Look at the current price of a 6600GT - 128MB is about $165, 256MB is another $60. That's a good setup, though.

However, it would really help me if you tell me your situation. Are you building a new pc, upgrading an old one, etc.? Because then the whole mobo/card thing changes.

If you get a new mobo for gaming, you'll need a new processor [since each proc has a different pin count/interface and such and will not work on non-compatible boards], probably new RAM, etc.

So again, what's your goal with the mobo and card?

  • 06.21.2005 9:09 PM PDT
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hey can we stay on topic u guys did not answer my question and if you dont reply I only have two other rescorses to pull from and those are some friends so please reply

  • 06.21.2005 9:10 PM PDT
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It was on topic, I was telling you (indirectly) that those choices probably wouldn't be the best ones. Anyway, the motherboard which I will be getting is the A8N-SLI which, as the name implies, is an SLI board. If you don't think you want that an A8N-E will probably do what you need it too. As for the graphics card, for the motherboards I have mentioned, you need a PCIe card. You can get sub $100 ones but to really take advantage of PCIe the 6600GT would probably be best for the budget, yet gaming minded (bang for your buck). Its more than $100 but worth it.

  • 06.21.2005 9:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Remember Sam
hey can we stay on topic u guys did not answer my question and if you dont reply I only have two other rescorses to pull from and those are some friends so please reply


Not to be rude, but what the hell do you think my lond-winded post involved? WTF dude, I told Inspire what PCI-X was, and then went into the on topic part.

Maybe if you actually read the posts, instead of just reading the first line, then you'd see. I want to help. I just don't know your situation. Are you building a new rig, upgrading an old but keeping old parts?

If you are building a new one, and have already figured out by now you need a new processor and such, a Chaintech VNF4 Ultra and 6600GT will run you very cheap and give you good performance. Obviously, the way to go is the A8N-SLI and a 6800GT - that way later on you can get another 6800GT, and viola, no need to get a replacement one that's newer, seeing as how by then the 6800GT will be much cheaper.

Best:
A8N-SLI
6800GT

Still good, budget, not the best future-ready:
VNF4 Ultra Zenith
6600GT [or 6800GT]

[Edited on 6/21/2005]

  • 06.21.2005 9:48 PM PDT
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Hey sld I am so sorry I did totally not see the huge post you gave me, my eyes aren't the best but still I have no excuse. What happened is I have an old computer and it is out dated in every way probly. So all I probly will keep is the case and maybe wires and stuff. I have 128 mb of ram in it and no internet acses(I play halo on my mom's computer wich has a 128 mb graphic card wich is off topic) my graphic card is nvidia 64 mb.I am not very educated on computer parts so I have no idea where to look at to see how good my power suply is or my hard drive , but I want to start off with a new mother board and work my way up from there with a proscesor, then graphic cardand and so on, so I would apretiate if you would give me info on building a computer from scratch.

  • 06.21.2005 10:37 PM PDT
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chewy gumball
I am not well educated on computer parts and mean no offens on the following: I have no clue what you have been trying to say to me this whole time. You know when a squirl is trying to squack at you, it sounds like giberish to you, well you are the squirl and I am a person. I am sure what you have been talking about is true and very well insited, but I have no clue what you have been telling me. Please put in words I might be able to understand if you feel like it, if not do not bother, I do not want to force this on you.

  • 06.21.2005 10:44 PM PDT
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Hmm, that definately helps me. Well, if you do want to get a gaming machine, and want the cutting-edge, so to speak, a PCI-express/AMD socket 939 system is what you want.

To start off to even use the pc at all, you'd need a new:
motherboard
processor
RAM
video card

Cheapest way:
1. Chaintech VNF4 Ultra Zenith/AMD Athlon 64 3200+ combo. That's about as low as you go with socket 939 - definately the gamer's pc. I have that particular processor, it's perfect. I was also an owner of the Chaintech board. Disregarding price, it's still a nice board, but with such a low price [usually $90 alone], it's even more appealing. I will say, though, that the price for this little combo is about as cheap as you can get.

2. eVGA 6600GT. This will run most games today at high settings on a medium to high resolution with acceptable frame rates. You may one day need to upgrade, which is why it's really the best to do the setup following this one.

3. pqi value RAM, 1GB dual channel. You'll want 1GB nowadays. And unless you plan to be some hardcore-overclocking-power-hungry pc user, you'll probably just want to stick to value RAM. It'll save you $100 or more, too ;)

Now, the best, future-proof way that is also easy to upgrade:

1. Asus A8N-SLI. This will allow you to eventually have dual videocards, if you choose. This will provide you with a very convenient upgrade path, not to mention the mobo is one of the best out there.

2. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice core. The Venice cores are the newest core for A64's. Very cool running.

3. 6800GT. Everyone will scream at me...but it does come down to this: if you just get a 6600GT now, and then later get another 6600GT...you'll have the same performance as one 6800GT. And by buying one 6800GT now, and then another later...twice the power. However, if you are crunched for cash, obviously choose a 6600GT.

4. Same RAM. No change.

That's the best case scenario, without considering your budget. IF you know you will be tight for cash - go for the first. You'll need all of that at the same time, plus your old hard drive and such, to get the pc running. Then I guess you can slowly get a new hard drive, then case, etc.

Also know that your old power supply is probably not going to cut it...so that's another $50 for a decent non-POS one that won't fail on you.

If it's not too much to ask, what is your budget like, how soon do you need the pc, etc? Maybe, if you are too crunched for cash, you can take a step back and get a socket 754 system - not as new, but still nevertheless pretty good. But not cutting edge by any means - socket 754 is starting to die out.

Maybe the above ideas will help you seek out what you need.

  • 06.21.2005 11:21 PM PDT
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Thankyou. Well my budgeet is right now at the prices you named it will take me if I'm lucky 5 weeks to the end of summer to pay for the mother boarad, and procesor I can wait years till this pc is compleetly built.(I have 41$ right now, but have a job so it is no big deal).

[Edited on 6/22/2005]

  • 06.22.2005 6:32 AM PDT