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Subject: halo wars messes up fall of reach

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Lethal Hate
Posted by: ChrisSpurr
Halo Wars is none-cannon, as stated by Bungie.

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I'd like to see some proof of this?

  • 09.09.2009 9:07 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Master Megatron
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa

Besides, I think that the UNSC (ONI in particular) knew about the Flood (and Halo) long before Reach was invaded. Why else were two Prowlers over Alpha Halo (Boarding Action), as well as there being numerous training facilities (Wizard, Rat Race) on its surface, with one of them even being used to train Spartan Clones (Chiron Tl-34)... we don't know of any Spartan Clones. Maybe Delta Company S-IIIs?


Multiplayer is not canon. Never has been, never will be.


I truely don't believe multiplayer is canon.

  • 09.09.2009 9:41 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Tonoottu
what about sierra 259 or 320?


simply marines, or ODSTs.

  • 09.09.2009 9:53 AM PDT

If you read this, you've wasted a few seconds of your life.

Or maybe pelicans.

  • 09.09.2009 9:56 AM PDT

halo wars takes place 10 years before reach

  • 09.09.2009 10:16 AM PDT

In the days of old, there were legends of a land long lost to time. This land was known as Ranna'Mor. Ranna'Mor was said to contain in its borders 7 warriors. These warriors had once unleashed a veritable hell upon the ancient world, until they were locked away. My name is Toriad, and I am one of those warriors. Our return is approaching. Do not run away, do not cower in fear; take solace in your final days, for that is all we can do. -Legend of Ranna'Mor

Posted by: R0CK3R
in halo wars there are 3 new spartans jerome alice and douglas in the fall of reach master chief i think it was states that i think 3 spartans were kia. im pretty sure 1 is sam and another is that one spartan dr halsey said at died and she witnessed her death.the halo wars spartans in the end were thought to be kia but marked mia but still kia. so dosnt halo wars actuallt make fall of reach wrong about that or did halo wars just screw up. i didnt know were to but it so i just put it here.

my first topic so be nice


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I have no idea what you are talking about. It sounds like you are talking about Ghosts of Onyx when Halsey states that only 3 Spartans have ever truely gone MIA (with the exception of Grey Team).

The Spartans in Halo Wars actually are MIA, along with the crew, because no one has seen them since the events of Halo wars (in 2530). The UNSC eventually changes the status of Spirit of Fire and her crew to KIA (with the exception of Spartans), but that's all.

Halo Wars does not conflict with Halo: Fall of Reach at all.

  • 09.09.2009 10:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Master Megatron
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa

Besides, I think that the UNSC (ONI in particular) knew about the Flood (and Halo) long before Reach was invaded. Why else were two Prowlers over Alpha Halo (Boarding Action), as well as there being numerous training facilities (Wizard, Rat Race) on its surface, with one of them even being used to train Spartan Clones (Chiron Tl-34)... we don't know of any Spartan Clones. Maybe Delta Company S-IIIs?


Multiplayer is not canon. Never has been, never will be.


I truely don't believe multiplayer is canon.


If you read the description of the maps, you'd see that there is some story injected into them. Not groundbreaking, but it is an addition.

  • 09.09.2009 10:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: R0CK3R
im not asking but saying halo wars doesnt go100% cannon with spartans


The only things that are canon right now are halo:ce, 2 and 3, and of course halo 3:odst.
Neither halo:wars nor the fall of reach are canon.
But since the fall of reach is just a ms writer writting something after playing a videogame and bungie actually talked a lot with ensemble studios during the development of hw, I'd say halo: wars is more canon than the fall of reach will ever be.

  • 09.09.2009 11:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Rakata
Posted by: R0CK3R
im not asking but saying halo wars doesnt go100% cannon with spartans


The only things that are canon right now are halo:ce, 2 and 3, and of course halo 3:odst.
Neither halo:wars nor the fall of reach are canon.
But since the fall of reach is just a ms writer writting something after playing a videogame and bungie actually talked a lot with ensemble studios during the development of hw, I'd say halo: wars is more canon than the fall of reach will ever be.


You are very wrong dude, so far off i'm not even going to bother correcting you in detail. The novels are canon, and so are the games. New stuff overwrites old stuff, happens often.

  • 09.09.2009 11:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: SweetTRIX
Posted by: Rakata
Posted by: R0CK3R
im not asking but saying halo wars doesnt go100% cannon with spartans


The only things that are canon right now are halo:ce, 2 and 3, and of course halo 3:odst.
Neither halo:wars nor the fall of reach are canon.
But since the fall of reach is just a ms writer writting something after playing a videogame and bungie actually talked a lot with ensemble studios during the development of hw, I'd say halo: wars is more canon than the fall of reach will ever be.


You are very wrong dude, so far off i'm not even going to bother correcting you in detail. The novels are canon, and so are the games. New stuff overwrites old stuff, happens often.


Bungie created it, everything bungie created is canon.
Halo:CE the first thing to come out stated that 117 is the last spartan, so did 2 and 3.
The Books say it ain't so. That alone proves that the books aren't canon to the games.
And you can't tell me that the books created about a videogame are more canon than the videogame itself. The exception is Contact Harvest, since the dude who wrote the rest of the halo story wrote that one aswell.

  • 09.09.2009 11:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: Rakata
Bungie created it, everything bungie created is canon.
Halo:CE the first thing to come out stated that 117 is the last spartan, so did 2 and 3.
The Books say it ain't so. That alone proves that the books aren't canon to the games.
And you can't tell me that the books created about a videogame are more canon than the videogame itself. The exception is Contact Harvest, since the dude who wrote the rest of the halo story wrote that one aswell.


Your joking right? Most know that the books have adhered closer to the "Halo Bible" than any of the games. The games are simplified for the fan base, the books have always been to "go to" for the actual story. If you read the books you would know why in Halo CE, it was assumed that MC 117 is the last Spartan. Do your homework man, seriously. Fall of Reach is an official prequal to Halo CE, just as First Strike is a bridge between CE and Halo 2. The Flood, Ghosts of Onyx, Contact Harvest, and Cole Protocol are all additional stories in the universe that operate outside of the games storyline.

It doesn't have to be written by a Bungie staff member to be canon to the story. Bungie staff have been involved in every Halo property written or otherwise in some shape or form.

  • 09.09.2009 11:51 AM PDT
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Everything will be gone long before me. When the first living thing was born, I was here, waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job is finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave.

There are so many things wrong in this ENTIRE THREAD that I don't even know where to begin.
Posted by: Rakata
Bungie created it, everything bungie created is canon.
Halo:CE the first thing to come out stated that 117 is the last spartan, so did 2 and 3.
The Books say it ain't so. That alone proves that the books aren't canon to the games.
And you can't tell me that the books created about a videogame are more canon than the videogame itself. The exception is Contact Harvest, since the dude who wrote the rest of the halo story wrote that one aswell.
It's has been said many many many times by Bungie that the books, graphic novels, ect. are all cannon. However, games override novels, and newer cannon overrides older cannon.
Halo Story Page: Would the books make the cut?
Joe Staten: The books are, for better or worse, part of the canon. In the future we may choose to revise or flat-out ignore some of the less appealing ideas (Johnson's biological immunity to the Flood, for example), but folks should treat them as defining elements of the Halo universe.
How Stuff Works: The novelization of a video game is, well ... novel. Where does Eric Nyland <sic> get the background for his books?
Pete Parsons: We work closely with him on all the stories. So what we do is we have these story arcs of the "Halo" universe, and Eric goes in and says, "Well that's a really good piece to take and here is in a microcosm what I think that story will look like."


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  • 09.09.2009 11:54 AM PDT

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not sure what your talkin about here but halowars did mess up in some things likethe arbiters armor, i watched a spartan throw it off the edge of the path way and in halo 2 i think a profet said the arbitor armer was worn by every arbitor. HOW DID THEY GET THAT ARMOR BACK it doesnt make sence did they escape the planet or something??

Maybe they didnt. Truth never said that all the arbiters have weared tha same armour. The one from halo wars is a little different than the one the arbiter is wearing. So I think that it have been many arbiter armours. Only think how dameged it would be from so many years of fighting.
Or if they got the armour back, maybe a spirit took it back to high charity



[Edited on 09.09.2009 12:07 PM PDT]

  • 09.09.2009 11:58 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
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Posted by: ODST27
There are so many things wrong in this ENTIRE THREAD that I don't even know where to begin.
Posted by: Rakata
Bungie created it, everything bungie created is canon.
Halo:CE the first thing to come out stated that 117 is the last spartan, so did 2 and 3.
The Books say it ain't so. That alone proves that the books aren't canon to the games.
And you can't tell me that the books created about a videogame are more canon than the videogame itself. The exception is Contact Harvest, since the dude who wrote the rest of the halo story wrote that one aswell.
It's has been said many many many times by Bungie that the books, graphic novels, ect. are all cannon. However, games override novels, and newer cannon overrides older cannon.
Halo Story Page: Would the books make the cut?
Joe Staten: The books are, for better or worse, part of the canon. In the future we may choose to revise or flat-out ignore some of the less appealing ideas (Johnson's biological immunity to the Flood, for example), but folks should treat them as defining elements of the Halo universe.
How Stuff Works: The novelization of a video game is, well ... novel. Where does Eric Nyland <sic> get the background for his books?
Pete Parsons: We work closely with him on all the stories. So what we do is we have these story arcs of the "Halo" universe, and Eric goes in and says, "Well that's a really good piece to take and here is in a microcosm what I think that story will look like."


Thx much, was too lazy to find the old article.

  • 09.09.2009 12:01 PM PDT

The Spartans that were in Halo Wars were Spartan Is. The Spartans in Reach and so on are Spartan IIs. That's what Masterchief and all the other well known ones are. Spartan IIIs are in Ghost of Onyx. Go read the books if you're going to be posting topics on this.

  • 09.09.2009 12:12 PM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Lethal Hate
Posted by: ChrisSpurr
Halo Wars is none-cannon, as stated by Bungie.

/ thread


I'd like to see some proof of this?


I agree, Halo War's storyline was a sequel to Contact Harvest. Plus, just because Bungie didn't make Halo Wars, doesn't mean it's part of the Halo storyline which is owned by Microsoft.

  • 09.09.2009 12:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: redflash
The Spartans that were in Halo Wars were Spartan Is. The Spartans in Reach and so on are Spartan IIs. That's what Masterchief and all the other well known ones are. Spartan IIIs are in Ghost of Onyx. Go read the books if you're going to be posting topics on this.


Nope, Spartan I's did not wear Mjolnir armor, that is the mark of a Spartan II. It was simply an older armor system. Spartan II's were around long before Harvest was lost.

  • 09.09.2009 12:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Master Megatron
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa

Besides, I think that the UNSC (ONI in particular) knew about the Flood (and Halo) long before Reach was invaded. Why else were two Prowlers over Alpha Halo (Boarding Action), as well as there being numerous training facilities (Wizard, Rat Race) on its surface, with one of them even being used to train Spartan Clones (Chiron Tl-34)... we don't know of any Spartan Clones. Maybe Delta Company S-IIIs?
Multiplayer is not canon. Never has been, never will be.
The maps were described by Bungie as real locations within the game fiction, meaning that they exist as part of the Haloverse, aka they are canon.

As for MP as a whole, of course it isn't canon, unless it's all one big virtual training simulation played out on "maps" modelled after real locations encountered by the UNSC.

  • 09.09.2009 12:23 PM PDT

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The Halo REACH Script (post thoughts in thread)

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In an old article, Bungie said In the game fiction, this level served as a hostile but controlled environment in which soldiers trained. in reference to Chiron TL34. "In the game fiction" means its part of the canon. And who were the soldiers who trained in TL34, as described in Halo 1, were Spartan Clones.

The -IIs were not clones, and the -Is were dismantled decades before. The -IIIs are not clones, though Ackerson (or someone else) could have been creating a Spartan Clone group which trained in TL34; either the Delta Company of S-III (Gamma Company graduated 2551) or maybe even Spartan-IVs.

  • 09.09.2009 12:29 PM PDT

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