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Subject: Do you belive that Spartan-II class 2s exist?
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Poll: Do you belive that Spartan-II class 2s exist?  [closed]
Yes:  37%
(16 Votes)
No:  14%
(6 Votes)
No, dumbass it's impossible:  28%
(12 Votes)
I'm not sure:  21%
(9 Votes)
Total Votes: 43

I personally belive they do exist and WILL be in Reach. If you vote no, please give a reason other than "There's no proof they exist."

  • 09.10.2009 4:44 PM PDT

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probably. there are more spartans around in reach, and that is pretty much where Halo CE took off, at the end of reach, so you might be playing as the master chief in Halo: Reach

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no i don't. i think that sierra 259 is just a call sign for a pelican or something of that sort

  • 09.10.2009 4:48 PM PDT

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The topic isnt about Sierra 259, or any other Pelicans. Wrong topic buddy

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Posted by: King of March
no i don't. i think that sierra 259 is just a call sign for a pelican or something of that sort

Possible, but unprobable. He says "We got Spartans on the ground sir. We're not going anywhere" He says WE. As in he is refering to himself as a Spartan.

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Posted by: Genswich
The topic isnt about Sierra 259, or any other Pelicans. Wrong topic buddy


actually i'm somewhat right on topic. some threads are about whether sierra 259 is a spartan 2 class 2. and by refering to pelicans is just a to support that there isn't a class 2

  • 09.10.2009 4:54 PM PDT

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your not making any sense

  • 09.10.2009 4:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Genswich
so you might be playing as the master chief in Halo: Reach

I REALLY hope not. And If you belive in S-II Class 2s, and that you will play as John then you must not have read Fall of Reach. It says John NEVER sees any class 2s or hears about them.

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Posted by: Genswich
your not making any sense


the OP is asking whether anyone thinks that there is a class 2 of spartan 2's. most threads about class 2 in this forum have been saying that sierra 259 is a spartan 2 class 2. i'm saying that we don't even know that sierra 259 is a spartan. sierra is the phonetic letter for S which means that it could be a pelican or another soldier.

  • 09.10.2009 5:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: King of March
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your not making any sense


the OP is asking whether anyone thinks that there is a class 2 of spartan 2's. most threads about class 2 in this forum have been saying that sierra 259 is a spartan 2 class 2. i'm saying that we don't even know that sierra 259 is a spartan. sierra is the phonetic letter for S which means that it could be a pelican or another soldier.

Siarra 259 is not my topic. And I think it is HIGHLY probable that he is a class 2.

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your not making any sense


the OP is asking whether anyone thinks that there is a class 2 of spartan 2's. most threads about class 2 in this forum have been saying that sierra 259 is a spartan 2 class 2. i'm saying that we don't even know that sierra 259 is a spartan. sierra is the phonetic letter for S which means that it could be a pelican or another soldier.

Siarra 259 is not my topic. And I think it is HIGHLY probable that he is a class 2.


yes but your are talking about a class 2 of spartans. the first class' numbers only went up to 150. so class 2's numbers would have to start at 151.

  • 09.10.2009 5:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: King of March
yes but your are talking about a class 2 of spartans. the first class' numbers only went up to 150. so class 2's numbers would have to start at 151.

My point exactly. Siarra 259's ID# = > 150, <300.

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Posted by: magog_rules
Posted by: King of March
yes but your are talking about a class 2 of spartans. the first class' numbers only went up to 150. so class 2's numbers would have to start at 151.

My point exactly. Siarra 259's ID# = > 150, <300.


you're not making any sense

deja vu

[Edited on 09.10.2009 5:12 PM PDT]

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yes but your are talking about a class 2 of spartans. the first class' numbers only went up to 150. so class 2's numbers would have to start at 151.

My point exactly. Siarra 259's ID# = > 150, <300.


you're not making any sense

Yes I am. Or at least I think I am.

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It's not impossible, just unlikley. The UNSC had many money constraits during the war, so they had to cut down on a fair few things, such as creating super soldiers.

And please don't tell me you think that the Spartan in the trailer says "Spartan (Class) 2 49", because that is almost certainly not what he means. There is some form of language protocol in the UNSC and if that protocol required Spartans to say their class before their number, then John would say '1117', which he doesn't.

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Posted by: magog_rules
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Posted by: King of March
yes but your are talking about a class 2 of spartans. the first class' numbers only went up to 150. so class 2's numbers would have to start at 151.

My point exactly. Siarra 259's ID# = > 150, <300.


you're not making any sense

Yes I am. Or at least I think I am.


no not really take your time and explain your statement like i did a few posts up

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It could be possible if Bungie decided to fit them into cannon, but I don't really think so.

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Posted by: magog_rules
Posted by: King of March
no i don't. i think that sierra 259 is just a call sign for a pelican or something of that sort

Possible, but unprobable. He says "We got Spartans on the ground sir. We're not going anywhere" He says WE. As in he is refering to himself as a Spartan.

Is this not enough proof to convince some of you?

  • 09.10.2009 5:44 PM PDT

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no i don't. i think that sierra 259 is just a call sign for a pelican or something of that sort

Possible, but unprobable. He says "We got Spartans on the ground sir. We're not going anywhere" He says WE. As in he is refering to himself as a Spartan.

Is this not enough proof to convince some of you?

Yes but there are code names used so enemies can be misled. That may or may not be the point of that specific call sign though.
And No, its not enough proof.

[Edited on 09.10.2009 5:49 PM PDT]

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Posted by: ShadowScythe159
Yes but there are code names used so enemies can be misled. That may or may not be the point of that specific call sign though.
And No, its not enough proof.

Then what is?

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no i don't. i think that sierra 259 is just a call sign for a pelican or something of that sort

Possible, but unprobable. He says "We got Spartans on the ground sir. We're not going anywhere" He says WE. As in he is refering to himself as a Spartan.


*Forcfully smashed hand into head* When he says "we", he could just mean we as in UNSC, or Reach defence force....

But Siarra 259 was just talking about Spartans...

  • 09.10.2009 5:53 PM PDT

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Maybe a few lines from one of the books?
A few quoted lines from an employee,the game even?
It has to be actual solid proof for anyone to believe it, Dont get me wrong I keep an open mind on these things and try and think it through but theres just so much against the Spartan 2's class 2's

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Posted by: ShadowScythe159
Maybe a few lines from one of the books?
A few quoted lines from an employee,the game even?
It has to be actual solid proof for anyone to believe it, Dont get me wrong I keep an open mind on these things and try and think it through but theres just so much against the Spartan 2's class 2's

While I admit there is no DEFINATE proof, there is the possibility they exist.

[Edited on 09.10.2009 8:26 PM PDT]

  • 09.10.2009 5:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: magog_rules
Posted by: ShadowScythe159
Maybe a few lines from one of the books?
A few quoted lines from an employee,the game even?
It has to be actual solid proof for anyone to believe it, Dont get me wrong I keep an open mind on these things and try and think it through but theres just so much against the Spartan 2's class 2's

While I admit there is no DIFINATE proof, there is the possibility they exist.

Possibility? I agree.
Positive?Nope.
Like I said, I keep an open mind on most subjects...We'll see how Bungie decides to reveal things.

  • 09.10.2009 5:57 PM PDT

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