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Is halo a conservative trilogy? .... hm... Yes and Halo CE was the best game in the trilogy...

All Halo fans, wake up, do you want the same old halo? Halo Reach must be a complete new game with a new game engine!!!

Here is what to do:

- Remove Dual wielding (More balanced)

- Balanced weapons (if you dont have a BR in halo 3, you are a dead man)

- New weapons (over 10 new weapons or remakes)

- New vehicles (over 10 new/ vehicles)

- New enemies (more spooky enemies)

- Wildlife? OH yes

- A sprint option or you spring faster (you must could accelerate), you should not be able to run all the time but periodically

- throw myself in any direction (you are to rigid in halo 3)

- Choose first person or third person in vehicles

- Dark enviroments, come on.... more mysterious

- Better AI (Omg the marines sucks)

- Include Artillery (new technology) I mean cannons, like the Gauss cannon

- Open free world sometime (not as oblivion but as halo 3 ODST)

- A good story (not an overpowered hero) If so, make him be afraid of something.

- More stunts and better physics

- More weather conditions (make it Rain heavy, make it thunder...)

- More strategi involved (It is to much spray in Halo 3)

- Larger scale battle (like Halo CE)

- Three way fight (flood, covenant, UNSC)

- 10-12 vs 10-12 online

- Bigger maps for Matchmaking

- MM for firefight

- 6-8 players on Firefight

- Big range of character design (length, weight, face, body) After you finish your character, the gameplay will effect you if you are small and slim or big and strong. The big guy has more health but the small guy can move faster.

- Forge 2.0 (you know what that needs)

Do you want to add something?

JUST UNLEASH HELL!!!!!!!! DONT BE conservative BUNGIE!!!!!!



[Edited on 09.11.2009 11:24 AM PDT]

  • 09.11.2009 10:42 AM PDT

I agree with everything except 8 players for firefight, I just don't think it would work (gameplay wise not server wise.)

  • 09.11.2009 10:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: iwanneatchips
I agree with everything except 8 players for firefight, I just don't think it would work (gameplay wise not server wise.)


Gooood :) yeah but we need MM for firefight.. that is the importent thing for the next game.

  • 09.11.2009 10:53 AM PDT

I´m sorry but the game content is nearly set.
Your ideas won´t change anything

  • 09.11.2009 10:53 AM PDT

the flood wern't at reach, they didn't even know it existed at the time.

  • 09.11.2009 10:59 AM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

- Remove Dual wielding (More balanced)
No.

- Balanced weapons (if you dont have a BR in halo 3, you are a dead man)
Agree partly. Laser SHOULDNT be removed, but maybe toned down a little.

- New weapons (over 10 new weapons or remakes)
Yes but only if they dont promote CQB only gameplay OR gameplay where the only thing used is a BR.

- New vehicles (over 10 new/ vehicles)
Yes. But keep the Scorpion as the most powerful.

- New enemies (more spooky enemies)
Not sure.

- Wildlife? OH yes
Yes.

- A sprint option, you should not be able to run all the time but periodically
Nope, Halo dosent really need it.

- throw myself in any direction (you are to rigid in halo 3)
If you mean like dodging, then definitley not. MM would be ruined. Although leaning around walls or something could be ok.

- Choose first person or third person in vehicles
Yes

- Dark enviroments, come on.... more mysterious
On certain levels, yes.

- Better AI (Omg the marines sucks)
Yes. Marines need to be like Halo CE Marines, plus the ability to drive. Grunts should keep their idiocy though =P

- Include Artillery (new technology)
If this is remotly like CoD atillery, then no way at all. Probably your worst idea.

- Open free world sometime (not as oblivion but as halo 3 ODST)
Yes.

- A good story (not an overpowered hero) If so, make him be afraid of something.
MC may be overpowered, but it dosent ruin the story. Story is still awesome. He just needs to seem more human.

- More stunts and better physics
Agree, depending on what things. Warthog needs fixing.

- More weather conditions (make it Rain heavy, make it thunder...)
Yes.

- More strategi involved (in halo 3 you can jump into a battle)
Yes, but there is nothing wrong wtih jumping into battles. Its reinforcing your allies, giving your team an advantage. This is tactical.

- Larger scale battle (like Halo CE)
Yes.

- Three way fight (flood, covenant, UNSC)
No, because the flood likely wont be in Reach. But if they are then yes. And if they aren't, then maybe UNSC/Covenant/Rebels?

- 10-12 vs 10-12 online
Yes.

- Bigger maps for Matchmaking
Maybe.

- MM for firefight
Yes.

- 8 players on Firefight
No, 4 or maybe 5 is enough. 8 would make it too easy.

- Big range of character design (length, weight, face, body)
No, people will just make their guys smaller and harder to hit.

- Forge 2.0 (you know what that needs)
YES. Best idea.

  • 09.11.2009 11:03 AM PDT
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NO DUAL WIELDING SERIOUSLY!?!That is retarded,having dual weilding is awesome and why is dual weilding not balanced?AND WE ARE NOT COD!!! NO SPRINT OPTION!!!

  • 09.11.2009 11:04 AM PDT

You better close this sig when your done.

Posted by: Sebbius
Is halo a conservative trilogy? .... hm... Yes and Halo CE was the best game in the trilogy...

All Halo fans, wake up, do you want the same old halo? Halo Reach must be a complete new game with a new game engine!!!

Here is what to do:

- Remove Dual wielding (More balanced)

- Balanced weapons (if you dont have a BR in halo 3, you are a dead man)

- New weapons (over 10 new weapons or remakes)

- New vehicles (over 10 new/ vehicles)

- New enemies (more spooky enemies)

- Wildlife? OH yes

- A sprint option, you should not be able to run all the time but periodically

- throw myself in any direction (you are to rigid in halo 3)

- Choose first person or third person in vehicles

- Dark enviroments, come on.... more mysterious

- Better AI (Omg the marines sucks)

- Include Artillery (new technology)

- Open free world sometime (not as oblivion but as halo 3 ODST)

- A good story (not an overpowered hero) If so, make him be afraid of something.

- More stunts and better physics

- More weather conditions (make it Rain heavy, make it thunder...)

- More strategi involved (in halo 3 you can jump into a battle)

- Larger scale battle (like Halo CE)

- Three way fight (flood, covenant, UNSC)

- 10-12 vs 10-12 online

- Bigger maps for Matchmaking

- MM for firefight

- 8 players on Firefight

- Big range of character design (length, weight, face, body)

- Forge 2.0 (you know what that needs)

Do you want to add something?

JUST UNLEASH HELL!!!!!!!! DONT BE conservative BUNGIE!!!!!!


I hope they dont hold back :)

  • 09.11.2009 11:06 AM PDT
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James or you can just call me James.

A sprint option.

Include Artillery.

8 players on Firefight.

Those are the only things I disagree with, sprinting in Halo would get annoying, because it still takes 4 or 5 shots to kill some one with the Br and when there half dead and they sprint behind a wall to recharge there shield would just get annoying to me.

Just sounds CoDish to me and I like gameplay with out major advantages, like artillery or The Dogs from CoD5, it just gives that team more kills to win faster and it makes it hard for the other team to catchup but thats just me

8 players in FF would make it way to easy because we are already super solders of doom, ill stick with the classic 4 player Co-op.

But thats just me.

  • 09.11.2009 11:15 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Sebbius
Is halo a conservative trilogy? .... hm... Yes and Halo CE was the best game in the trilogy...


Opinion.

All Halo fans, wake up, do you want the same old halo? Halo Reach must be a complete new game with a new game engine!!!

Here is what to do:

- Remove Dual wielding (More balanced)


That's taking a step backwards. DuelWielding adds a great deal of variety to the game, and it was the main focus of Halo 2. Just removing it wouldn't make much sense, it only works for ODST because they can't handle 2 weapons, a spartan can.

- Balanced weapons (if you dont have a BR in halo 3, you are a dead man)

The weapons are pretty balanced as is, my only complaint is that AR is too powerful, and Melee needs to be 3 to kill, not 2.

- New weapons (over 10 new weapons or remakes)

There's no need for "ten or more weapons" since there is WAY to many weapons already. I think a few have to go. Each weapon should have a purpose, and there shouldn't be duplicate weapons. (PR/BPR, Spiker/SMG)

- New vehicles (over 10 new/ vehicles)

No way. We have enough vehicles already. 2 new ones, maybe. But 10 new ones? Are you joking?

- New enemies (more spooky enemies)

It's not possible for Bungie to just throw in new races of the Covenant. It's already been established on what the races are. And I'm hoping that we don't see any Brutes in Reach anyway.

- Wildlife? OH yes

....Why? I don't expect there to be horses running around on a military base. Especially not one 500 years in the future.

- A sprint option, you should not be able to run all the time but periodically

A spartan sprinting is WAY to fast for it to work out in gameplay.

- throw myself in any direction (you are to rigid in halo 3)

What?

- Choose first person or third person in vehicles

I agree with this one.

- Dark enviroments, come on.... more mysterious

Meh. I like a mix of both.

- Better AI (Omg the marines sucks)

The marines aren't horrible, but they could be better.

- Include Artillery (new technology)

Artillery? I'd rather not. Carpet bombs by shortswords? That's fine with me.

- Open free world sometime (not as oblivion but as halo 3 ODST)

This can't work with Reach.

- A good story (not an overpowered hero) If so, make him be afraid of something.

We are going to be spartans again, so expect "an over powered hero". And Halo has always had a good story. Spartans aren't usually "afraid" of anything.

- More stunts and better physics

Stunts?

- More weather conditions (make it Rain heavy, make it thunder...)

I agree.

- More strategi involved (in halo 3 you can jump into a battle)

*Strategy.
Sure, you can jump into battle, but it isn't smart. Just by playing Any of the Halo games you can come up with different strategies, because I don't advise jumping into a group of Elites of Legendary.

- Larger scale battle (like Halo CE)

They will be massive, this is the biggest battle in the entire war.

- Three way fight (flood, covenant, UNSC)

No flood.

- 10-12 vs 10-12 online

8v8 is way to laggy as is. No more than 16 people at once.

- Bigger maps for Matchmaking

There has always been a proportionate number of different sized maps.

- MM for firefight

I wouldn't use it. I'd much rather play with friends then some randoms who only care about their own survival.

- 8 players on Firefight

Takes away the challenge.

- Big range of character design (length, weight, face, body)

You're spartans. The only thing you can really change is armor. Changing any more than that (such as size) would alter the gameplay.

- Forge 2.0 (you know what that needs)

Forge is an object editor, not a map editor.

Do you want to add something?

JUST UNLEASH HELL!!!!!!!! DONT BE conservative BUNGIE!!!!!!



[Edited on 09.11.2009 11:17 AM PDT]

  • 09.11.2009 11:17 AM PDT
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privet caboose = You are way to conservative, with your opinion of the game, Halos development will stop...

Why do you want the old same halo game? We have already seen it 3 times

[Edited on 09.11.2009 11:30 AM PDT]

  • 09.11.2009 11:29 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Sebbius

privet caboose = You are way to conservative, with your opinion of the game, Halos development will stop...



Look around these forums, I'm a major Halo nut. I would love for Reach to be an amazing game, and it has alot of potential.

My issues is that Bungie will defy set canon, and that just won't fly. Bungie has always stuck to the canon, and I assume they will continue to do so. Expecting tons of never before seen stuff is very unlikely.

  • 09.11.2009 11:31 AM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

Posted by: Sebbius
privet caboose = You are way to conservative, with your opinion of the game, Halos development will stop...

Why do you want the old same halo game? We have already seen it 3 times


It wont stop. He made some fair points.

And i'm sorry but you dont really know what conservative means. In a certain context it can mean what you mean by it, but to be honest you are thinking of holding back and not changing anything, and im pretty sure that isnt defined using "conservative." Although there is a word similar to it, that is kind of. I think.

  • 09.11.2009 11:34 AM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

And Sebbius you need to recognise some of your ideas are wrong. Yes he disagreed with most of your points, but he agreed with at least a few - thats hardly "completely" conservative (Hate using that word in this context, it isnt right. Gut feeling.) and some of your ideas are a bit extreme.
Although to an extent i agree with most of your ideas, i think some are just not going to work. Read my original post a few posts back =)

I have to go now. I'll check back later to see any replies.

  • 09.11.2009 11:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Sebbius

privet caboose = You are way to conservative, with your opinion of the game, Halos development will stop...



Look around these forums, I'm a major Halo nut. I would love for Reach to be an amazing game, and it has alot of potential.

My issues is that Bungie will defy set canon, and that just won't fly. Bungie has always stuck to the canon, and I assume they will continue to do so. Expecting tons of never before seen stuff is very unlikely.


Yes but some asume that Reach will be a new game engine, it will be intresting to see what bungie will do... It is as you say: the canon is holy. Bungie bases are very good. the question is if they are ready to take another step...

however let us judge Halo 3 ODST first

PS: My english is quite bad

  • 09.11.2009 11:44 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

We aren't assuming it's on a new engine, Bungie already said it was.

  • 09.11.2009 11:45 AM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Keep dual wielding.

  • 09.11.2009 11:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: privet caboose
We aren't assuming it's on a new engine, Bungie already said it was.


good

  • 09.11.2009 11:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: Rammal94
And Sebbius you need to recognise some of your ideas are wrong. Yes he disagreed with most of your points, but he agreed with at least a few - thats hardly "completely" conservative (Hate using that word in this context, it isnt right. Gut feeling.) and some of your ideas are a bit extreme.
Although to an extent i agree with most of your ideas, i think some are just not going to work. Read my original post a few posts back =)

I have to go now. I'll check back later to see any replies.


Yeah, good point

Thanko for being intrested in my thread

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I will go now, but will check back i a few hours

  • 09.11.2009 11:51 AM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

i agree with somethings u said
but not with the size stuff, not the lurching (rolling what?), or the flood cause i would kill myself if i saw one of them in this game also the 10+ stuff is to much.
id like u all to read my post on halo reach multiplayer and wants pg 77. its long and i have more the thread is to ure right on the sticky bar (plan on going to continue posting from last night actually)
but the stuff like 3rd person darker enviroments(when nesesary) and bigger battles (like 12v12) and bigger campaign missions YES.

also ya the ai is terrable they barly enven know were u are half the time. u can run right past a group of jackals and they just stand there and do nothing. its very imertion breaking and its just sad . also better graphics cause to be frank the halo 3 graphics are TERRIBLE. (tho lets hope the ODST graphics are as good as there said to be)

[Edited on 09.11.2009 12:36 PM PDT]

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Halo 3 ODST graphic will be good, I asume you that

  • 09.11.2009 1:15 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Redraven1992
i agree with somethings u said
but not with the size stuff, not the lurching (rolling what?), or the flood cause i would kill myself if i saw one of them in this game also the 10+ stuff is to much.
id like u all to read my post on halo reach multiplayer and wants pg 77. its long and i have more the thread is to ure right on the sticky bar (plan on going to continue posting from last night actually)
but the stuff like 3rd person darker enviroments(when nesesary) and bigger battles (like 12v12) and bigger campaign missions YES.

also ya the ai is terrable they barly enven know were u are half the time. u can run right past a group of jackals and they just stand there and do nothing. its very imertion breaking and its just sad . also better graphics cause to be frank the halo 3 graphics are TERRIBLE. (tho lets hope the ODST graphics are as good as there said to be)


You sir, are an idiot. I want the extra 10 minutes of my life back, since I had to stumble through all those spelling and grammatical errors.

  • 09.11.2009 1:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Redraven1992
i agree with somethings u said
but not with the size stuff, not the lurching (rolling what?), or the flood cause i would kill myself if i saw one of them in this game also the 10+ stuff is to much.
id like u all to read my post on halo reach multiplayer and wants pg 77. its long and i have more the thread is to ure right on the sticky bar (plan on going to continue posting from last night actually)
but the stuff like 3rd person darker enviroments(when nesesary) and bigger battles (like 12v12) and bigger campaign missions YES.

also ya the ai is terrable they barly enven know were u are half the time. u can run right past a group of jackals and they just stand there and do nothing. its very imertion breaking and its just sad . also better graphics cause to be frank the halo 3 graphics are TERRIBLE. (tho lets hope the ODST graphics are as good as there said to be)


You sir, are an idiot. I want the extra 10 minutes of my life back, since I had to stumble through all those spelling and grammatical errors.


yes, I had difficulties to read his post....

[Edited on 09.11.2009 1:45 PM PDT]

  • 09.11.2009 1:32 PM PDT