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Subject: Should There Be a Full Automatic Battle Rifle?
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Notice how the Battle rifle isn't in ODST, hopefully this will be a paragon for Halo Reach. I like the concept of "splitting the br's functions." Adds more fun, and balance to gameplay.

  • 09.13.2009 2:31 PM PDT

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the BR is over powered enough

  • 09.13.2009 2:39 PM PDT

Are you daft? Have you ever used a BR? Neither is it overpowered or does it take no skill to use.
Have you ever been 4-shoted and not put a bullet on the other guy because he was strafing like a monster? Well he had skill and you didn't, if you want a no skill weapon in halo pick up a shotgun its about the only one.

  • 09.13.2009 3:01 PM PDT

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i have used a BR its basically the only weapon any one uses and it requires no skill just aim for the head thats it aim for the head and follow not that hard.

  • 09.13.2009 3:11 PM PDT

Tally smoke, Pheta 4, two bogies 4 O Clock Low. Request to engage accepted. Foxes are free of the hole. Fox 2!

▀▄1 Stop Shop to get 4 Shot...Quitters Never Prosper▄▀
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Posted by: Josephson
i have used a BR its basically the only weapon any one uses and it requires no skill just aim for the head thats it aim for the head and follow not that hard.


You very truly simplify that in the maximum. I dont like it when people say " Just do head shots". Simply because of the fact that it isn't easy. Have you tried to four shot, someone who is stafing, not only that, but someone who knows how to strafe. Thats right kids, strafing isn't just moving the stick left and right over & over. Strafing is a complex science. It deals with many factors, some of them including :
1. Previous Encounters
2. Tapping
3. Breaking
4. Bumping
etc..

In the same way, I can say that any weapon requires "aiming for the head". Perhaps except the shotgun.

  • 09.13.2009 4:24 PM PDT


. Furthermore each bullet acts as a tracer revealing the shooters position. create the [/quote]

since when iks concealing your position an issue with the ar? or halo...

  • 09.13.2009 4:31 PM PDT

Tally smoke, Pheta 4, two bogies 4 O Clock Low. Request to engage accepted. Foxes are free of the hole. Fox 2!

▀▄1 Stop Shop to get 4 Shot...Quitters Never Prosper▄▀
▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀BRs Incorperated▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄

Posted by: The Eagle23

. Furthermore each bullet acts as a tracer revealing the shooters position. create the [/quote]

since when iks concealing your position an issue with the ar? or halo...


Aaagh. You guys frustrate me. This is going to be a new Halo, not an old one. So all comparisons are invalid. You cant say when has this ever been an issue. Because for all we know. Reach Might be a Stealth Shooter.

  • 09.13.2009 4:40 PM PDT

Exactly so you cant anticipate anything. Which means; expect the unexpected.

  • 09.13.2009 5:10 PM PDT

Yes this is a new halo game, true. But when has halo over been so complicated as to make me select the firing mode of all my weapons? And yes you might say, "Well they should only do that for the BR". That sentence in itself does not make sense, they would not include the ability to change weapon modes for only one gun. And I don't want that hassle in any halo game I play, this isn't SOCOM. Halo is meant to be fun not serious.

That's just my take on the situation.

  • 09.13.2009 7:38 PM PDT

Just because you have the BR, doesn't make strafing more skillful. I can strafe while using any other weapon. I just don't need to because the BR basically guarantees a win against any other weapon.

And if you read this, you will see that going for the head will benefit every weapon.

Posted by: Shamikh
You very truly simplify that in the maximum. I dont like it when people say " Just do head shots". Simply because of the fact that it isn't easy. Have you tried to four shot, someone who is stafing, not only that, but someone who knows how to strafe. Thats right kids, strafing isn't just moving the stick left and right over & over. Strafing is a complex science. It deals with many factors, some of them including :
1. Previous Encounters
2. Tapping
3. Breaking
4. Bumping
etc..

In the same way, I can say that any weapon requires "aiming for the head". Perhaps except the shotgun.


[Edited on 09.13.2009 7:44 PM PDT]

  • 09.13.2009 7:42 PM PDT

Just because you have the BR, doesn't make strafing more skillful. I can strafe while using any other weapon. I just don't need to because the BR basically guarantees a win against any other weapon.

And if you read this, you will see that going for the head will benefit every weapon.


Are you seriously saying that the BR can beat any weapon in Halo 3 at any range, on any map, against any player in the world?

  • 09.13.2009 7:48 PM PDT

my old account "gamegeknee" was hacked and thats why I had to make a new login name.

That would essentially eliminate the need for ANY other weapon.

  • 09.13.2009 7:53 PM PDT
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I've been playing Halo since 2002. My earliest memories include hiding at the shotgun window on Damnation and killing my dad with grenades while playing co-op on Pillar of Autumn.

Posted by: AbysmalMax
1- shot!!

Kinda like an WW2 rifle from Cod

*ping,ping,ping,ping,ping,ping,CLING!* clip out...


Oh. My. God.

I think we have a winner for the biggest idiot in history contest.

  • 09.13.2009 7:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Justice One Duo
Yes. It would be more in touch with Halo canon. The only problem I would see with this is people complaining about how the Battle Rifle should be 3 shots, not full auto or single shot, despite the fact they know nothing of Halo canon besides Chief.

3 shot is Canon though, the Battle Rifle used by Johnson in Contact Harvest was a VERY early model, a prototype, they could have changed alot.

Either way, even if it wasn't overpowered, then what would we have? We would have a weapon that takes the place of the Carbine AND the AR and throws those two weapons out the window?

I think it would work if they did have the two alternate firing modes, but kept it so that it only excels in its purpose as a 3 shot weapon. It could be underpowered in the capacity of both Single and Full auto, so if a person with a Carbine and Assault Rifle could still fight against it. Or it could be for only a select gametype, such as a Battle Rifle gametype, where it could have variety with a Single Shot as a Sniper, a Full Auto as an Assault Rifle, and a 3-Burst for Medium range fights. For regular games, they could just have it as a 3-Burst weapon.

  • 09.13.2009 8:09 PM PDT

Gigitty Gigitty Goo!

No, then there is no point to the AR or SMG. I just hope there wont be any "mY BR oWEnZ U!" type screenshots.
Wait the BR wasnt in Halo 1 so hopefully it wont be in Reach either! :D

[Edited on 09.13.2009 8:14 PM PDT]

  • 09.13.2009 8:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Justice One Duo]I think it would work if they did have the two alternate firing modes, but kept it so that it only excels in its purpose as a 3 shot weapon. It could be underpowered in the capacity of both Single and Full auto, so if a person with a Carbine and Assault Rifle could still fight against it. Or it could be for only a select gametype, such as a Battle Rifle gametype, where it could have variety with a Single Shot as a Sniper, a Full Auto as an Assault Rifle, and a 3-Burst for Medium range fights. For regular games, they could just have it as a 3-Burst weapon.

I like they way you are thinking, but that would be far to complicated.

  • 09.13.2009 8:15 PM PDT

Spartan119 the Red Raven.
"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

dumb question there shouldnt be a battle rifle

  • 09.13.2009 8:22 PM PDT

It would be pretty complicated, but it would also be a good way to implement the cool features of the 3 differing types of Battle Rifle into the game while making the Carbine and Assault Rifle stronger, and while making it fair.

  • 09.13.2009 8:29 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: Shamikh
Aaagh. You guys frustrate me. This is going to be a new Halo, not an old one. So all comparisons are invalid. You cant say when has this ever been an issue. Because for all we know. Reach Might be a Stealth Shooter.
You could say that. But it is more likely, from precedent, that weapons, gameplay, and vehicles carry over from one game to another.

  • 09.13.2009 8:48 PM PDT

Overcomplicated is the right word. Instead of having a BR in a game that would only allow it to be single shot for long range would make the carbine either useless or overpowered. In another game making it fully auto but completely oncomtrollable at any distance would, again either make the Assault Rifle useless or overpowered. The BR like all other weapons has found it's own niche in the game. Just leave it that way don't assimilate it into a mundane game where everything is the same and no weapon has an advantage over any other..

[Edited on 09.13.2009 8:50 PM PDT]

  • 09.13.2009 8:48 PM PDT

waz up

it should be if you hold down wwhile it fires it fires a 3 round bust and if you tap the trigger it fires 1nce but full auto isnt so good

  • 09.13.2009 8:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


Posted by: Xx KNOX xX
and how!

Toggle between Tri-Burst and Semi Automatic.

  • 09.13.2009 9:10 PM PDT

How to spell "space"?

S-P-ACE! SPACE!

A Battle Rifle is a combat rifle with out an automatic fire setting, such as an M1 Garand, or a bolt-action weapon.
You are thinking of something such as an assault rifle.

  • 09.13.2009 11:32 PM PDT

Tally smoke, Pheta 4, two bogies 4 O Clock Low. Request to engage accepted. Foxes are free of the hole. Fox 2!

▀▄1 Stop Shop to get 4 Shot...Quitters Never Prosper▄▀
▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀BRs Incorperated▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄

Posted by: CookieMan
A Battle Rifle is a combat rifle with out an automatic fire setting, such as an M1 Garand, or a bolt-action weapon.
You are thinking of something such as an assault rifle.


But why cant it be, an Assualt Rifle?

  • 09.14.2009 2:40 PM PDT

I think an assult rifle would be a good idea.

  • 09.14.2009 2:56 PM PDT