Halo: Reach Forum
This topic has moved here: Subject: Do YOU want Halo Reach to be a classed based FPS?
  • Subject: Do YOU want Halo Reach to be a classed based FPS?
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • of 3
Subject: Do YOU want Halo Reach to be a classed based FPS?

O o
/¯________________________
| IMMA FIRIN' MAH LAZER!!!
\_¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ;¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: privet caboose
And I'm 100% positive it isn't class based.
OMG, YOU KNOW THAT REACH ISN'T CLASS BASED??!@?!?!?!?!?!?!?3/12#$?!@#?!@##t?@~#??!?~!?!?!?!? WHAT ELSE DO YOU KNOW ABOUT IT!?!?!?!?! IS THE CAMPAIGN COOL? DID THEY IMPROVE FORGE??!?!?!?~!?! WUTZ MULTIPLAYR GUNNA B LIEK?!?!?!?! ZOMG TELL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!11!!!11111!!!

Translation: You're full of -blam!-.

Posted by: privet caboose
I don't see how "copying CoD, or Team fortress" makes "Fresh" Gameplay but whatever.
Hey, G.I Joe has guns, Bungie must have copied them!!!

Hey, Star Wars has aliens, Bungie must have copied Star Wars!!!

Do you see where I'm going with this?


Halo has water, mabey there copying matterrrrr... thats all I got, but I would like to see how bungie take a battlefield gameplay touch. I enjoy those kind of games.

  • 09.12.2009 6:56 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

So play those games, and don't modify a formula that has worked excellently for years.

  • 09.12.2009 6:58 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: privet caboose
So play those games, and don't modify a formula that has worked excellently for years.
If you don't modify the formula, absolutely no changes will be made and it will be the same exact thing, but this time borring since you've done it all before in Halo 3.

Bungie changed the formulas in ALL of the past Halo games to make new ones.

[Edited on 09.12.2009 7:01 PM PDT]

  • 09.12.2009 7:00 PM PDT

Hell to the no bungie needs to have there own ideas not geting it from other games.

  • 09.12.2009 7:00 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: privet caboose
So play those games, and don't modify a formula that has worked excellently for years.
If you don't modify the formula, absolutely no changes will be made and it will be the same exact thing, but this time borring since you've done it all before in Halo 3.

Bungie changed the formulas in ALL of the past Halo games to make new ones.


I don't see how adding Duel wielding, or equipment is bad. But something like classes will DRASTICALLY change the entire Halo multiplayer, and It wouldn't even feel like Halo anymore.

  • 09.12.2009 7:04 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: flash5567
Hell to the no bungie needs to have there own ideas not geting it from other games.



Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by:Sh1n1ng Wolf
I don't see how "copying CoD, or Team fortress" makes "Fresh" Gameplay but whatever.
Hey, G.I Joe has guns, Bungie must have copied them!!!

Hey, Star Wars has aliens, Bungie must have copied Star Wars!!!

Do you see where I'm going with this?


[Edited on 09.12.2009 7:06 PM PDT]

  • 09.12.2009 7:05 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: privet caboose
So play those games, and don't modify a formula that has worked excellently for years.
If you don't modify the formula, absolutely no changes will be made and it will be the same exact thing, but this time borring since you've done it all before in Halo 3.

Bungie changed the formulas in ALL of the past Halo games to make new ones.


I don't see how adding Duel wielding, or equipment is bad. But something like classes will DRASTICALLY change the entire Halo multiplayer, and It wouldn't even feel like Halo anymore.
Have you played Resident Evils 0-3? Yes they were good, but they were more of the same game, with multiple changes to their formulas.

Now have you played Resident Evils 4 and/or 5? They are f#$%ing superb, the reasons why are because of drastic changes! RE4 and 5 didn't feel like 0-3, do you know what they DID feel like though?

Something better.

[Edited on 09.12.2009 7:10 PM PDT]

  • 09.12.2009 7:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: privet caboose
And I'm 100% positive it isn't class based.
OMG, YOU KNOW THAT REACH ISN'T CLASS BASED??!@?!?!?!?!?!?!?3/12#$?!@#?!@##t?@~#??!?~!?!?!?!? WHAT ELSE DO YOU KNOW ABOUT IT!?!?!?!?! IS THE CAMPAIGN COOL? DID THEY IMPROVE FORGE??!?!?!?~!?! WUTZ MULTIPLAYR GUNNA B LIEK?!?!?!?! ZOMG TELL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!11!!!11111!!!

Translation: You're full of -blam!-.

Posted by: privet caboose
I don't see how "copying CoD, or Team fortress" makes "Fresh" Gameplay but whatever.
Hey, G.I Joe has guns, Bungie must have copied them!!!

Hey, Star Wars has aliens, Bungie must have copied Star Wars!!!

Do you see where I'm going with this?



That made no sense at all and the 'no0bZ0r' talk was kind of annoying - even if you were just kidding. And I'm against class-based games because to me they're just not as fun as games that you can change what kind of player you want to be - while you're still alive. You're limited to what you can do or be in class-based games. If I want to have a sniper and a rocket launcher in Halo I can. In class based games you're forced to choose. That's annoying. And the gameplay will be fresh because of the new engine, look, and features, not because it's going to 'copy' other games and make them more 'Halo-like.' Sorry, but I guess that post tweaked a nerve.

  • 09.12.2009 9:23 PM PDT

Check out my deviantART page

Some things I like:
Video Games
Anime
Art

Classes might be cool to have in FireFight, but definitely not for Matchmaking.

[Edited on 09.12.2009 9:32 PM PDT]

  • 09.12.2009 9:30 PM PDT

"Everything works itself out. The only thing that matters is whether you want it to or not."

Last Refuge - Operation Phoenix is in effect. From the ashes, we will rise.

I mean, I suppose it'd be okay if it were class based, but I'm really hoping that it isn't.

  • 09.12.2009 9:34 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Bliznade
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: privet caboose
And I'm 100% positive it isn't class based.
OMG, YOU KNOW THAT REACH ISN'T CLASS BASED??!@?!?!?!?!?!?!?3/12#$?!@#?!@##t?@~#??!?~!?!?!?!? WHAT ELSE DO YOU KNOW ABOUT IT!?!?!?!?! IS THE CAMPAIGN COOL? DID THEY IMPROVE FORGE??!?!?!?~!?! WUTZ MULTIPLAYR GUNNA B LIEK?!?!?!?! ZOMG TELL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!11!!!11111!!!

Translation: You're full of -blam!-.

Posted by: privet caboose
I don't see how "copying CoD, or Team fortress" makes "Fresh" Gameplay but whatever.
Hey, G.I Joe has guns, Bungie must have copied them!!!

Hey, Star Wars has aliens, Bungie must have copied Star Wars!!!

Do you see where I'm going with this?



That made no sense at all and the 'no0bZ0r' talk was kind of annoying - even if you were just kidding.
That was the point of the noob talk dude...

  • 09.14.2009 7:21 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Although it's unlikely, I hope Bungie reads what I'm about to say and takes it to heart:

I hope that Reach is class based because it will even the playing field for what has become a very unbalanced multiplayer experience. When I say unbalanced I am not talking about weapons, I am thinking about player skill levels. I'm trying to think objectively here and I hope readers of this post will do the same.

If you frequent these forums the chances are you're a seasoned Halo player. As a veteran you will probably agree that since Halo 3's release the learning curve for a new player has gotten exponentially higher. Why? Because they will be up against players that have been through the maw for literally years. Online multiplayer has steadily become more competitive than it was when Halo 3 launched. It's intimidating for new players. And this is one of several factors that contribute to Bungie's decreasing multiplayer population.

The bonus to class based systems is that it equals out players. A single player can no longer dominate a game. Likewise, successful teams have to be able to think abstractly to accomplish their objectives rather than simply relying on how well their BR skills are.

It's a way to retain players and that means more revenue for the company. The franchise won't survive if it relies solely on a minority of dedicated, pro-level fans. It needs new blood. But these new players become disenfranchised quickly if they are put against an endless stream of more experienced players.

And please spare me the TrueSkill debate. It's no secret that exp inflation is letting players achieve high ranks they never would have been able to reach two years ago. I have Colonel ranked friends that are still newbies at heart.

Anyway, just my two cents. You may resume the flame war now.

  • 09.14.2009 7:56 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

No offense, but Reach has been in development for 2 years now. If they are already using the old formula, it's to late to change now.

  • 09.14.2009 8:03 PM PDT

oh death was never enemy of ours

why wont people stop making these threads. how would classes work?????? you choose between spartan and.........spartan????? It simply makes no sense. Halo is fine as it is, dont mess it up

  • 09.14.2009 8:09 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Intrepid Mythic Member
  • gamertag: P3P5I
  • user homepage:

Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: Tesla 123
why wont people stop making these threads. how would classes work?????? you choose between spartan and.........spartan????? It simply makes no sense. Halo is fine as it is, dont mess it up

I know seriously. I want Halo to stay the same. When Reach comes out I want Bungie to send me a sticker that says "Reach" and on the back it says, "to go on top of the 3 on your Halo 3 gamecase, <3 Bungie."

  • 09.14.2009 8:19 PM PDT

I am The Sapphire Knight

All I know is that I want Reach to have some kind of of significant change in gameplay. I don't want to be playing Halo 4.

[Edited on 09.14.2009 9:48 PM PDT]

  • 09.14.2009 9:48 PM PDT

I hate how people vote no just because Call of Duty has classes.

You guys are really ignorant. Just like Congressmen!

  • 09.14.2009 9:50 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: privet caboose
No offense, but Reach has been in development for 2 years now. If they are already using the old formula, it's to late to change now.
That's actually not entirely true...

Many games that have been in development by companies have received radical changes (sometimes for the better, sometimes it f#$%s the game up) while in the development stages. Just look at Halo CE, it was supposed to be a RTS exclusively for the PC.

Although I would imagine you probably are right about them not making majour changes at this point. If Reach is classed based or if it is basically a Halo 3 remake, the decisions are probably final by now.

But at the same time, Bungie still has until 2010...Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
I hate how people vote no just because Call of Duty has classes.

You guys are really ignorant. Just like Congressmen!
COD4 isn't truly classed based, it's more of a "perks" system. True class based games are like TF2.Posted by: P3P5I
Posted by: Tesla 123
why wont people stop making these threads. how would classes work?????? you choose between spartan and.........spartan????? It simply makes no sense. Halo is fine as it is, dont mess it up

I know seriously. I want Halo to stay the same. When Reach comes out I want Bungie to send me a sticker that says "Reach" and on the back it says, "to go on top of the 3 on your Halo 3 gamecase, <3 Bungie."
Okay, go play Halo 3 then if you want Halo to stay stagnant.

[Edited on 09.16.2009 7:00 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 6:46 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Intrepid Mythic Member
  • gamertag: P3P5I
  • user homepage:

Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: P3P5I
Posted by: Tesla 123
why wont people stop making these threads. how would classes work?????? you choose between spartan and.........spartan????? It simply makes no sense. Halo is fine as it is, dont mess it up

I know seriously. I want Halo to stay the same. When Reach comes out I want Bungie to send me a sticker that says "Reach" and on the back it says, "to go on top of the 3 on your Halo 3 gamecase, <3 Bungie."
Okay, go play Halo 3 then if you want Halo to stay stagnant.
Lol that was sarcasm.

  • 09.16.2009 6:56 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: P3P5I
Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: P3P5I
Posted by: Tesla 123
why wont people stop making these threads. how would classes work?????? you choose between spartan and.........spartan????? It simply makes no sense. Halo is fine as it is, dont mess it up

I know seriously. I want Halo to stay the same. When Reach comes out I want Bungie to send me a sticker that says "Reach" and on the back it says, "to go on top of the 3 on your Halo 3 gamecase, <3 Bungie."
Okay, go play Halo 3 then if you want Halo to stay stagnant.
Lol that was sarcasm.
...............OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!


...Okay I gotcha...

[Edited on 09.16.2009 7:00 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 6:59 PM PDT

Nothing is better than gaming through the day, into the night, then back into the day. It's like when you finally push that power button you feel like you've accomplished nothing, but at the same time, you can't stop smiling.

No. Even if it was only slightly like COD, everyone would say it's a COD ripoff.

  • 09.16.2009 7:03 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Posted by: Spartan153
No. Even if it was only slightly like COD, everyone would say it's a COD ripoff.

Posted by: Sh1n1ng Wolf
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
I hate how people vote no just because Call of Duty has classes.

You guys are really ignorant. Just like Congressmen!
COD4 isn't truly classed based, it's more of a "perks" system. True class based games are like TF2.


[Edited on 09.16.2009 7:15 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 7:11 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

Bump for the sake of not wanting this thread to die...

  • 09.17.2009 4:20 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

It'd be interesting to see classes, I think Bungie should switch gameplay formula, just like what they did from Halo 1 to Halo 2.

  • 09.17.2009 4:49 PM PDT

Why did you write so formal as if you were writing an essay?

And no. I prefer not having to switch classes so that there can be at least one person on the team without a sniper rifle. I'd much rather have the "weapons spawning at specific time in specific places. Get 'em as they come."
It makes for more tactic altering gameplay, instead of just pulling the same thing with your team over and over again. Plus, with the addition of forge, that gameplay can be altered even further by changing where the weapons spawn.
It's a lot more refreshing to play knowing you may have to think differently.

  • 09.17.2009 4:57 PM PDT

  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • of 3