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Subject: Halo Reach is a class based shooter

Working together as classes that benefit each other, while still trying to capture valuable points of vantage needs a -blam!- load of teamwork.

And sure it would change the gameplay, but this isn't part of the main Halo canon for a reason, this isn't Halo 4, it's Halo: Reach.

What's so bad about something different? Why are you so set on playing the SAME thing!? If you wanted the same thing, why not just have Bungie keep updating Halo 3?

And maybe you didn't say that it being class based doesn't mean it will be an FPS but a LOT of people in this thread did.

I'm open to new ideas and if people hate the new class based halo, they can easily play Halo 3.

  • 09.14.2009 6:16 PM PDT

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Of course not, Reach could be a whole different concept as far as we know and could possibly become something different in time. Banners SOMETIMES try to give you some clues on how something is going to end up as, So i would say Halo:Reach could possibly become the same Halo we all know and love BUT with the addition of Classes ala TF2 or BIA:HH.

My two cents.

  • 09.14.2009 6:27 PM PDT

Posted by: FlamingSpaz600
Of course not, Reach could be a whole different concept as far as we know and could possibly become something different in time. Banners SOMETIMES try to give you some clues on how something is going to end up as, So i would say Halo:Reach could possibly become the same Halo we all know and love BUT with the addition of Classes ala TF2 or BIA:HH.

My two cents.


I agree, and I don't even see what's so bad about that, why is everyone so against that? -_-

  • 09.14.2009 6:41 PM PDT

Here's what i think. That, up in the banner, arent classes. Most people have identified them as people from the books, that's like saying ODST is a squad based shooter just because one prefers a sniper over the other, its just preference, and building personality for the charecter.

[Edited on 09.14.2009 6:52 PM PDT]

  • 09.14.2009 6:46 PM PDT

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I just think it's kind of premature to ignorantly presume that the silouettes of the characters in the banner above are all Spartans. We don't know that. In fact it looks like one spartan, a undistiguishable human that could be a commander or even some sort of AI, and three ODSTs. I know it's fun to speculate but please don't speak as if it's fact that those are all Spartans when really no one on this forum knows that information.

  • 09.14.2009 6:46 PM PDT

Posted by: ScOpEbOy
Here's what i think. That, up in the banner, arent classes. Most people have identified them as people from the books, that's like saying ODST is a squad based shooter just because one prefers a sniper over the other, its just preference, and building a personality.


But aren't the characters in the book good at their own specific things, like classes?

Even if they aren't given the name of a class I think each spartan will have the role of a class.

And it's obviously all spartans because even in an interview posted on this thread, it is said that it's going to be a group of SPARTANS.

  • 09.14.2009 6:49 PM PDT

Posted by: FotoMotion
I just think it's kind of premature to ignorantly presume that the silouettes of the characters in the banner above are all Spartans. We don't know that. In fact it looks like one spartan, a undistiguishable human that could be a commander or even some sort of AI, and three ODSTs. I know it's fun to speculate but please don't speak as if it's fact that those are all Spartans when really no one on this forum knows that information.


Im pretty sure that there was a thread that identified all of them with good logic, all spartans.

Here

It's not just the chief, there's more spartans with him" Joe was then asked if it was like a "squad of spartans ," Joe replied saying "It's basically a squad of spartans, but not really squad combat." - Joseph Staten.

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  • 09.14.2009 6:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: ScOpEbOy
Posted by: FotoMotion
I just think it's kind of premature to ignorantly presume that the silouettes of the characters in the banner above are all Spartans. We don't know that. In fact it looks like one spartan, a undistiguishable human that could be a commander or even some sort of AI, and three ODSTs. I know it's fun to speculate but please don't speak as if it's fact that those are all Spartans when really no one on this forum knows that information.


Im pretty sure that there was a thread that identified all of them with good logic, all spartans.

Here


Just read it and saw the enlarged image too. Very interesting.

  • 09.14.2009 6:56 PM PDT

You are lame...

(Directed at the OP) Don't you have to tell us how you are right before we can prove you wrong?

  • 09.14.2009 6:56 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: FotoMotion
Posted by: ScOpEbOy
Posted by: FotoMotion
I just think it's kind of premature to ignorantly presume that the silouettes of the characters in the banner above are all Spartans. We don't know that. In fact it looks like one spartan, a undistiguishable human that could be a commander or even some sort of AI, and three ODSTs. I know it's fun to speculate but please don't speak as if it's fact that those are all Spartans when really no one on this forum knows that information.


Im pretty sure that there was a thread that identified all of them with good logic, all spartans.

Here


Just read it and saw the enlarged image too. Very interesting.


Thanks.

  • 09.14.2009 7:02 PM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
Posted by: FotoMotion
Posted by: ScOpEbOy
Posted by: FotoMotion
I just think it's kind of premature to ignorantly presume that the silouettes of the characters in the banner above are all Spartans. We don't know that. In fact it looks like one spartan, a undistiguishable human that could be a commander or even some sort of AI, and three ODSTs. I know it's fun to speculate but please don't speak as if it's fact that those are all Spartans when really no one on this forum knows that information.


Im pretty sure that there was a thread that identified all of them with good logic, all spartans.

Here


Just read it and saw the enlarged image too. Very interesting.


Thanks.


No, thank you for that very well thought out post that explained alot. :P Let's just hope your right.

  • 09.14.2009 7:08 PM PDT
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This thread made me rage so hard that I had to post here.


Me too.

Why does it seem like all of the calm intelligent people are open to the class based idea, and all of the frantic morons aren't?

Other way around.

No offense, I know some intelligent people are against the class based system and have good reason.

Good Reason being it would make Bungie lose money, it's not as fun as Halo currently is, and there's tons of class based games already.

Since when did a game becoming class based mean it was no longer an FPS? Isn't TF2 an FPS, what about Battlefront?

We already know it's an Fps. But classes is drastically changing Halo's gameplay.

The banner does make this game look like an fps. Different spartans of different builds holding different weapons, one of them LOOKS like a heavy class.

How can you tell a game is an FPS buy a picture? (We were told it's an FPS already though)

The game would STILL be an fps and it would STILL be great, stop spazzing people, please.

I'm not spazzing. We know it's an FPS, that's not the issue. The issue is that classes would completely change the way Halo is played. If you want to play a class based game, go play CoD, or Team Fortress.

It would also make halo more team based IMO.

Halo is as team based as it can get. You need to work together to get control of the power weapons, then hold the map down so the other team can't break through.

oh snaps! Need some ice for that burn!!!

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Posted by: WhiteMikeGwee
Why does it seem like all of the calm intelligent people are open to the class based idea, and all of the frantic morons aren't?

Re-read the thread. If your opinion does not change, then that is your own problem.

Most of us aren't even against it. Most of us are pointing out that there is no solid evidence, let alone proof, that what OP is purporting is even remotely close to being true. I don't really give a -blam!- either way, but I'm smart enough not to place significance in something whose significance has yet to be established. If this thread is divided between intellectuals and "frantic morons", then the latter would define the group in disagreement with this.

  • 09.16.2009 1:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
why don't YOU prove yourself right? you know, with arguments and ideas. like anybody sensed do.
ok mr picky


the banner.
A pile of spartans. each one is a specialist in a variety of different fields.

together they make a balanced team, but anyone by itself would be pretty screwed.

this is shouting class based shooter.


Are you seriously suggesting that Spartans are only useful in groups? You do realise that the Chief, who is only one Spartan, defeated entire Armadas of Covenant and Flood.

Anyway back to the point. I dont think it will be a class based game. I think like in ODST in different missions you will play as different Spartans. Im guessing they will all play exactly the same as the Chief does but the variety will come from the style of the level eg A sniping level, a race against time etc.

  • 09.16.2009 7:44 AM PDT

If Halo Reach was a classed based shooter

1) It would still sell insanely well

2) It would still be the most played game on xbl

3) It would still be amazing

I don't see why everyone had to get so offended by someone thinking this is class based, it's all speculation, like EVERYTHING on this site.

Oh and whether Reach is class based or not, it isn't going to sell as well as Halo 3, not having a number in the title is going to make casual gamers think it isn't really important, nor do I think this will be picked up by MLG, just saying...who knows though.

  • 09.16.2009 8:23 AM PDT

Okay, so I've spent a while studying a hi res copy of the reach logo and this is what I see. (please read the my post in it's ENTIRETY before replying to it, I know its a long but you can make it)

Descriptions are in left to right order starting with the big guy with the machine gun.

1: Without a doubt a spartan, considerably taller than the others, enlarged shoulder armor much like that of early Spartans, features the square shaped protrusions on the top of the chest armor much like spartan armor.

2: Smallest of the 5, prepared to draw what looks like a holstered pistol, appears to have the smallest helmet and least amount of armor coverage of all of them. What ever this character is, it's meant for speed and maneuverability. If this were to be a class based game, this one would be the scout like character no doubt.

3: About average sized, out of all the characters he is the least specialized looking. Carrying what could be a battle rifle or assault rifle. Helmet looks odst-like but its impossible to tell for sure. Basically this is your average joe of the 5. If this was class based, he would be the normal soldier.

4: This guy interests me the most. Hes holding what is obviously a knife, His right shoulder plate is quite large in comparison to the left. His left shoulder has what seems like a box with a think antenna on it but there is no way of knowing if this is something strapped to his back or attached to the shoulder. Helmet is similar the the middle character's. The right shoulder plate could possibly be the cqb shoulder but no way to tell. That knife leads me to believe hes the up close type or the stealthy type.

5: If this is class based then guess whose the sniper. With out a doubt hes not a spartan due to his back pack and size. most likely and odst because of the face profile. Has a rectangular protrusion on the front of his helmet which reminds me of the sniper in ODST's helmet. Other than that, not much to say about him.

Now, That being said I am in NO WAY saying that this is going to be a class based game. BUT, based on the information I've gathered from about 45 minutes of studying this at various magnifications it can be assumed that these figures in the picture are specialized for a certain type of combat. From what I've seen, I PERSONALLY am leaning towards the class based theory and welcome the idea with open arms if it turns out to be true. But again I am in no way saying I am right. This is just what I've seen and concluded based on my years being involved with halo as a whole.

Hey! Good Job! You read the entire thing! Now you my reply.
and thanks for taking the time to read this.

  • 09.16.2009 2:22 PM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
Wrong. I'm positive Reach is NOT a class based shooter. Prove me wrong?

Halo sold more copies than CoD by a landslide, so why would Bungie change to the loosing system?


Ima laffin so harddd!

  • 09.16.2009 2:36 PM PDT
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No.

Posted by: z0rgy
there, was this so hard?

halo has never been a class based game.
they won't change the formula for the lulz. it's like if CoD suddenly turned into a platformer or gears of war into a fps. makes no sense.


Yeah, It's not like they'd ever make a Halo RTS.

  • 09.16.2009 2:46 PM PDT

Posted by: master piraka
Posted by: z0rgy
there, was this so hard?

halo has never been a class based game.
they won't change the formula for the lulz. it's like if CoD suddenly turned into a platformer or gears of war into a fps. makes no sense.


Yeah, It's not like they'd ever make a Halo RTS.


Halo was messed around with in the beginning build as an RTS, but with that being said now that they hit the market as one of the best FPS's, its not going to change. If your trying to point out Halo Wars, it wasent made by bungie. It was made by Ensamble, who make alot of RTS type games, but sadly had to close down.

  • 09.16.2009 4:11 PM PDT
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It isn't our shiznit anymore.

Posted by: ScOpEbOy
Posted by: master piraka
Posted by: z0rgy
there, was this so hard?

halo has never been a class based game.
they won't change the formula for the lulz. it's like if CoD suddenly turned into a platformer or gears of war into a fps. makes no sense.


Yeah, It's not like they'd ever make a Halo RTS.


Halo was messed around with in the beginning build as an RTS, but with that being said now that they hit the market as one of the best FPS's, its not going to change. If your trying to point out Halo Wars, it wasn't made by Bungie. It was made by Ensemble, who make a lot of RTS type games, but sadly had to close down.

True, but realize that making the same game after a while gets boring. The reason Halo 1 was so successful (many people's favorite over the sequels) is because it introduced a new way to play FPS games and it set the standard for future FPS games. Sequels simply can't copy that experience. Wouldn't you want to get that feeling back when you play Reach (of course it won't be the same but it will be closer to that experience if you play something different but still Halo)?

  • 09.16.2009 4:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: ZeroXFallen
That's not proof. That's speculation. That's like saying the cover of something defines the game completely. In CoD:WaW, I did not run through dirt, rain, and mud, straight forward at the enemy with a Thompson, nor was there a cutscene for that. In Left 4 Dead, I didn't have only four appendages on my hand, I had all 5. Grand Theft Auto wasn't a game told in comic strips. Until you can get proof, which you can't for a while, this is speculation.

  • 09.16.2009 5:23 PM PDT