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  • 09.14.2009 12:20 PM PDT
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vehicle*
you spelt it wrong like over 9000 times.

  • 09.14.2009 12:23 PM PDT

Hoping that Brutes will be playable in Halo: Reach...

Posted by: z0rgy
vehicle*
you spelt it wrong like over 9000 times.


It's over 9000......!!!!

  • 09.14.2009 12:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: TombKing31
Posted by: z0rgy
vehicle*
you spelt it wrong like over 9000 times.


It's over 9000......!!!!


that's what the scouter said! *crushes it*

  • 09.14.2009 12:28 PM PDT

Peace through superior firepower.

I'm guessing you're just not good with vehicles, but keep taking them from your team?

  • 09.14.2009 4:11 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

Being as this game is not a driving or flight simulator, I cannot really gripe too much about the vehicle controls. This is prolly the best FPS available that mixes vehicular gameplay in the mix, and does it well. If you know what you are doing, you should have little trouble, you just need to learn the best way to approach different situations in each vehicle.

  • 09.14.2009 4:12 PM PDT

- Hey mars, can you smell that?
- Smell what??
- Uranus.
[Insert troll face here]

Posted by: RELLIK PIR
Ok I know we all know realism in Halo is a word spouted by mentally retarded 3 year old. But why are vehicles 500 years from now so slow and hard maneuver. The banshee can't go backwards... I mean it flies by mean unknown it should be able to go up without pointing that way
And wth is with the Hornet. trying to fly up and down is a chore and you can't aim at the same time? Are controls just like the monitor so hard to imagine for flying vehicles of the future.
The tank. Is it so hard to imagine that if you push forward the front of the tank should go forward period and if you go side it turns and the aiming of the turret should have nothing to do with the direction your going.
H2 was pretty close but no quite. H3s tank controls are almost as dumb as HCE

Note the above if just more proof this game wasn't play tested by gamers in anyway.

I am not saying that vehicles need a power up but as it they are dumb to fly. A maneuverability upgrade would make them more powerful YES.... That can be easily balanced with killablity. If the masterchief starts throwing like a Cybernetic super soldier instead of a 12 year old softball pitcher & the grenade isn't super lagged by host. it should be easier to stick a overly aggressive vehicle. Also vehicle health might be a good idea to come back. Also when a vehicle goes you should have time to bail out. Short of the explosive death.


Any other ideas. When it comes to controls the Monitor is perfect for flying and the tank controls as I said. But I'll clarify

Left stick
forward = front of tank moves strait
Side = turn.
Back = back of tank going backwards.

Right stick = Aiming



Ok just a quick lesson in speed. MC average speed is something in the 10mph range. must faster would be stupid. MODERN tanks speed 30+mph Modern vehicals and ATVs 60+

As it is Tank speed is only slightly faster than a spartan. the ATV is only about 40mph. Since on 300% speed it is still slightly faster. While going faster would be enjoyable and good for vehical games it should carry risks. I'll let bungie deside on that. If they even read this would be a miracle.
no just no.

  • 09.14.2009 4:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: RELLIK PIR
Ok I know we all know realism in Halo is a word spouted by mentally retarded 3 year old. But why are vehicles 500 years from now so slow and hard maneuver. The banshee can't go backwards... I mean it flies by mean unknown it should be able to go up without pointing that way
And wth is with the Hornet. trying to fly up and down is a chore and you can't aim at the same time? Are controls just like the monitor so hard to imagine for flying vehicles of the future.
The tank. Is it so hard to imagine that if you push forward the front of the tank should go forward period and if you go side it turns and the aiming of the turret should have nothing to do with the direction your going.
H2 was pretty close but no quite. H3s tank controls are almost as dumb as HCE

Note the above if just more proof this game wasn't play tested by gamers in anyway.

I am not saying that vehicles need a power up but as it they are dumb to fly. A maneuverability upgrade would make them more powerful YES.... That can be easily balanced with killablity. If the masterchief starts throwing like a Cybernetic super soldier instead of a 12 year old softball pitcher & the grenade isn't super lagged by host. it should be easier to stick a overly aggressive vehicle. Also vehicle health might be a good idea to come back. Also when a vehicle goes you should have time to bail out. Short of the explosive death.


Any other ideas. When it comes to controls the Monitor is perfect for flying and the tank controls as I said. But I'll clarify

Left stick
forward = front of tank moves strait
Side = turn.
Back = back of tank going backwards.

Right stick = Aiming



Ok just a quick lesson in speed. MC average speed is something in the 10mph range. must faster would be stupid. MODERN tanks speed 30+mph Modern vehicals and ATVs 60+

As it is Tank speed is only slightly faster than a spartan. the ATV is only about 40mph. Since on 300% speed it is still slightly faster. While going faster would be enjoyable and good for vehical games it should carry risks. I'll let bungie deside on that. If they even read this would be a miracle.


You do realize that we have tanks that can drive as fast as 45 miles an hour right?

This isnt a simulator. What other game mixes the gameplay so well, show me one other game that can compete.

  • 09.14.2009 4:19 PM PDT

Your friend is not a reliable source of information

Your Thread topic needs better spelling...
but anyways I think that vehicles already have amazing control, the fact that bungie turned a fps vehicle into a vehicle you can actually use to race each other and stuff in forge (racetracks) is awesome, it feels like their is more to halo vehicles than just killing stuff.

  • 09.14.2009 4:37 PM PDT

what are you talking about?

halo has one of the best vehicle controls in a game, i'd be hard pressed to find better vehicle controls in another game.

the vehicles are all fun to drive, hell even the elephant is fun to drive

i can agree that yes i did like the scorpion controls in halo 2 better, but it still has the halo vehicle controls.

maybe you could make the hornet and banshee controls a little better, but nothing else, most definitely not the warthog.

[Edited on 09.14.2009 5:16 PM PDT]

  • 09.14.2009 5:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: RELLIK PIR
On a side note. Battlefield 2 as I recall has a integrated Vehicular play really well. I am not a PC gamer but I know that game has a LOT of vehicles. Pretty much that game has 5 times the stuff compared to H3. It is a PC game but a old one. So saying H3 is special is a joke. A console game is always behind the times compared to PC games. That doesn't mean Console game IE halo have and excuse for choking on control schemes and some basic semblance of futuristic. The hornet is a joke. The Banshee is a joke. The mongoose is ok. The warthog is pretty good. The tank is good other than it being so slow and a poor control scheme.



Saying battlefields vehicles compare to halo is stupid, they're clunky and hard to maneuver. Their geometry is effed up and they get bogged down easily. Calm down there tiger. Halo schemes haven't changed much since Halo CE, but if you look at Battlefield its always changing because its always flawed. maybe they'll get it right next time

  • 09.14.2009 9:51 PM PDT

Don't complain about what Bungie creates, play it.

Posted by: RELLIK PIR
Ok I know we all know realism in Halo is a word spouted by mentally retarded 3 year old. But why are vehicles 500 years from now so slow and hard maneuver. The banshee can't go backwards... I mean it flies by mean unknown it should be able to go up without pointing that way
And wth is with the Hornet. trying to fly up and down is a chore and you can't aim at the same time? Are controls just like the monitor so hard to imagine for flying vehicles of the future.
The tank. Is it so hard to imagine that if you push forward the front of the tank should go forward period and if you go side it turns and the aiming of the turret should have nothing to do with the direction your going.
H2 was pretty close but no quite. H3s tank controls are almost as dumb as HCE

Note the above if just more proof this game wasn't play tested by gamers in anyway.

I am not saying that vehicles need a power up but as it they are dumb to fly. A maneuverability upgrade would make them more powerful YES.... That can be easily balanced with killablity. If the masterchief starts throwing like a Cybernetic super soldier instead of a 12 year old softball pitcher & the grenade isn't super lagged by host. it should be easier to stick a overly aggressive vehicle. Also vehicle health might be a good idea to come back. Also when a vehicle goes you should have time to bail out. Short of the explosive death.


Any other ideas. When it comes to controls the Monitor is perfect for flying and the tank controls as I said. But I'll clarify

Left stick
forward = front of tank moves strait
Side = turn.
Back = back of tank going backwards.

Right stick = Aiming



Ok just a quick lesson in speed. MC average speed is something in the 10mph range. must faster would be stupid. MODERN tanks speed 30+mph Modern vehicals and ATVs 60+

As it is Tank speed is only slightly faster than a spartan. the ATV is only about 40mph. Since on 300% speed it is still slightly faster. While going faster would be enjoyable and good for vehical games it should carry risks. I'll let bungie deside on that. If they even read this would be a miracle.


You know what? You should do the code support for those new controls and send them in to Microsoft so they verify it and send it to Bungie.

Totally.

  • 09.14.2009 9:55 PM PDT

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Nobody is perfect, everyone makes mistakes. Why punish them for something you have done, and probably will do at some point?

Posted by: z0rgy
vehicle*
you spelt it wrong like over 9000 times.

But to the author of the thread:

Yes, I do agree. I love vehicles, whether it is in real life or video games. I just love knowing that my performance is based on how well I connect with the machine. Yet it Halo 3, it isn't so. The movements of vehicles are too erratic, jerky, and unnatural.

The vehicles should be more fluid. And why does a small rock send a warthog flipping through the air? Doesn't it weigh like 10 tons?

  • 09.14.2009 9:56 PM PDT

How to spell "space"?

S-P-ACE! SPACE!

Posted by: z0rgy
Posted by: TombKing31
Posted by: z0rgy
vehicle*
you spelt it wrong like over 9000 times.


It's over 9000......!!!!


that's what the scouter said! *crushes it*

There's no way that can be right!

  • 09.14.2009 10:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: RELLIK PIR
The banshee can't go backwards... I mean it flies by mean unknown it should be able to go up without pointing that way
And wth is with the Hornet. trying to fly up and down is a chore and you can't aim at the same time?


Aerodynamics for the banshee?

And yes, the Hornet is hard to drive. But I manage.

Why would you want to go backwards with a Banshee anyway? It's not a hornet.

For all we know, it could be the construction of the "wings", the aerodynamics, or, maybe the engine that prevents us from backing up with it?

  • 09.14.2009 11:48 PM PDT

Evil, always finds a way!
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You've never heard the term, "balanced" have you?

  • 09.15.2009 12:05 AM PDT

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how exactly, do scorpins drive sideways?

  • 09.15.2009 1:21 AM PDT
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Are you on drugs?

One of the MANY reasons this game is good is the Controls, it's not Halos fault you can't drive.

Adapt or die

  • 09.15.2009 3:07 AM PDT