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Subject: Needler! What went wrong? Here is what!

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Poll: Needler! What went wrong? Here is what!  [closed]
Small detonations+weaker large detonation.:  45%
(15 Votes)
One big detonation, that's it.:  55%
(18 Votes)
Total Votes: 33

Ah, yes, the Needler.
Overpowered in Halo 3, and useless if you don't get all 7 needles in the target.

In Halo 2 and CE, it would have smaller detonations even if you didn't hit with every last needle.

Which system is better?

Halo CE and Halo 2: Needles would explode in the target even if you didn't hit with 7. The needles were simply less powerful.
Halo 3? Either all or nothing.

  • 09.14.2009 8:42 PM PDT
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I quite like the needler, and I always have ever since Halo CE. I don't think it needs much work from it's current state in Halo 3. But I do think that the needles need to explode, even if you didn't put at least 7 in a person. If they change that, it'll be perfect.

  • 09.14.2009 9:02 PM PDT
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Halo 3 one was worse. I think it should weaken them no matter what instead of the big detonation.

  • 09.14.2009 9:28 PM PDT

If we are going back to dual wielding, I think I might have a solution...

I think the needler is the hardest weapon to balance out without completely changing it.

I think that the needler should take 2 extra shots to detonate (10 instead of 8), and have 2 extra needles in the clip.

However, the 10 shot rule only applies to players with more that 3/4 of their shields. If a player has 1/4 to 1/2 of their shields, it takes 6 needles, and any less, just a 3 shot burst would kill them.


Also, the needles should be one of the following:

1-They go faster, but have little/no tracking.
OR
2-They go Halo 1 speed, but have a little more tracking.

  • 09.14.2009 9:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
Halo 2 = Dual wieldable weaker needlers
Halo 3 = Non-Dual wieldable stronger needler

FTL
The Halo 2 ones were better in all ways.

  • 09.14.2009 10:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tonoottu
Halo 2 = Dual wieldable weaker needlers
Halo 3 = Non-Dual wieldable stronger needler

FTL
The Halo 2 ones were better in all ways.


stop with drug.
you could barely kill an afk player.... seriously, the needler was the pink noob gun people used if they wanted to die.

[Edited on 09.15.2009 4:19 AM PDT]

  • 09.15.2009 4:14 AM PDT

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It was still useful if you got only 6 needles in somebody. The current Needler has no variety.

  • 09.15.2009 5:07 AM PDT

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I like the new needler i think bungie have finally perfected it, This thread has no point for me.

  • 09.15.2009 5:10 AM PDT

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The Halo 2 Needler was 117% worthless.

  • 09.15.2009 5:58 AM PDT

I say give us the needle tracking of the CE needler, but with the power and speed of the Halo 3 needler

  • 09.15.2009 6:16 AM PDT

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You do realize that in Halo 1, people complained about the needler. A lot. Then they complained about the needler in Halo 2. A lot. Now, we complain about the needler. It's a shock, I know.


Point is, they know people complain about the needler. Always. And they probably have some crazy-ass version previously unheard of already created for the game. There ya go.

  • 09.15.2009 7:16 AM PDT

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Halo 3 Needler overpowered?

In no way is it overpowered.

  • 09.15.2009 7:24 AM PDT

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Ok how many times are you killed by a needler.. seriously now compare that to how many times you are killed by a battle rifle. It isn't overpowered, I still think each needle should explode draining the shield a bit after a while or if there are already 8 needles they all should explode resulting in the pink instant kill mist.

  • 09.15.2009 10:53 AM PDT