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Subject: Level up with kills, not wins!!!

You killed Flipyap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - unkown grunt

let go of my purse i dont know you - Bobby Hill

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stranger danger - ralph wiggum
i lost the game - some -blam-ing -blam-er

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: halo2jumper
Not again -.-* HALO IS NOT CALL OF DUTY or BATTLEFIELD.
So... hold on one mother -blam!- ing second. Rewarding individuals for carrying teams would... turn Halo into Call of Duty and Battlefield? Why the hell do people like you post on these forums? You have no logic.

On topic. Yes. It would be great if we were rewarded for more than just wins. Of course we should get an extra bonus for winning since the game is about teams.

But let's say you lose. Like in H3 you still lose no EXP, but if you happened to do about as good as the people on the winning team you would still earn some EXP, not getting completely shut out because of some noobs on your team.

If you are on the losing team but get MVP and do the best in the whole game you could potentially earn the most EXP in the game, even if you didn't win (for example, you go 25-3 but still lose, you still deserve lots of EXP).

Some potential break-downs.

Betrayal -2 EXP
Death -1EXP
Assist 1 EXP
Kill 2 EXP
Headshot 3 EXP
Stick 4 EXP
Double Kill 4 EXP
Won the match 20 EXP
Quit the match -20 EXP

Maybe 200 EXP would cause you to rank up early on; something like that.




that sounds great but i think we also have to reward kamicazis who risk ther lives to get the flag like me i would always win
objectives with most bombs planted and flags captured and carry the flag most of the way if not all and my k/d ratio hasnt recovered but i mean the point of the game is to capture the flag no camp at base and not kill a bunch of people to get exp if your system was implemented

you should get exp it you help carry the flag to the base the amount should be determined by bungie

but i agree with you i played btb and got 40 kills 13 deaths and lost cause i was withs noobs and no exp how do you think i felt


so bottom line you should get exp based on how you preformed k/d, how you helped get the objectives and how you assisted your teamates

[Edited on 09.16.2009 1:47 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 1:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: halo2jumper
Not again -.-* HALO IS NOT CALL OF DUTY or BATTLEFIELD.
So... hold on one mother -blam!- ing second. Rewarding individuals for carrying teams would... turn Halo into Call of Duty and Battlefield? Why the hell do people like you post on these forums? You have no logic.

On topic. Yes. It would be great if we were rewarded for more than just wins. Of course we should get an extra bonus for winning since the game is about teams.

But let's say you lose. Like in H3 you still lose no EXP, but if you happened to do about as good as the people on the winning team you would still earn some EXP, not getting completely shut out because of some noobs on your team.

If you are on the losing team but get MVP and do the best in the whole game you could potentially earn the most EXP in the game, even if you didn't win (for example, you go 25-3 but still lose, you still deserve lots of EXP).

Some potential break-downs.

Betrayal -2 EXP
Death -1EXP
Assist 1 EXP
Kill 2 EXP
Headshot 3 EXP
Stick 4 EXP
Double Kill 4 EXP
Won the match 20 EXP
Quit the match -20 EXP

Maybe 200 EXP would cause you to rank up early on; something like that.



Assuming this was the new system, it might be possible to Rank by allowing someone to kill you over and over. I'm sure someone would figure out how to play the same person 10 times in a row.

Not a bad idea, perhaps a tad impractical.

On the whole, the idea is fairly good. Kills, Snipes, Doubles, Exterms etc.. = More Points. Very nice. There should also be penalties, for instance:

Downing Teammates shields : -1 EXP
Betrayal : -25 EXP
Boosting, Quitting Early : -10 EXP
Quitting Early 2x in a row: -15 EXP
Quitting Early 3x in a row: -30 EXP
One Opponent Quit : +5 EXP
Enemy Team Quit : +10 EXP
Having a Consistently High Ping/MS : -10 EXP
Standing Idle For 3 Min : -5 EXP
Idle for 5 Min : -10 EXP
Idle 10 Min : -20 EXP
Idle Game : -50 EXP

  • 09.16.2009 1:44 PM PDT

You killed Flipyap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - unkown grunt

let go of my purse i dont know you - Bobby Hill

silly rabbit,trix are for kids - selfish kids
stranger danger - ralph wiggum
i lost the game - some -blam-ing -blam-er

thats good punishing idle people but you sould only punish for downing your shields if it results in a death but i like how you think bungie we are waiting for this new system

  • 09.16.2009 1:49 PM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: halo2jumper
Not again -.-* HALO IS NOT CALL OF DUTY or BATTLEFIELD.
So... hold on one mother -blam!- ing second. Rewarding individuals for carrying teams would... turn Halo into Call of Duty and Battlefield? Why the hell do people like you post on these forums? You have no logic.

On topic. Yes. It would be great if we were rewarded for more than just wins. Of course we should get an extra bonus for winning since the game is about teams.

But let's say you lose. Like in H3 you still lose no EXP, but if you happened to do about as good as the people on the winning team you would still earn some EXP, not getting completely shut out because of some noobs on your team.

If you are on the losing team but get MVP and do the best in the whole game you could potentially earn the most EXP in the game, even if you didn't win (for example, you go 25-3 but still lose, you still deserve lots of EXP).

Some potential break-downs.

Betrayal -2 EXP
Death -1EXP
Assist 1 EXP
Kill 2 EXP
Headshot 3 EXP
Stick 4 EXP
Double Kill 4 EXP
Won the match 20 EXP
Quit the match -20 EXP

Maybe 200 EXP would cause you to rank up early on; something like that.

That is so retarded, even now you only get like 1 exp point for a game, why would you give people 20?

  • 09.16.2009 2:12 PM PDT

I don't see you doing anything to help our country.
Except sitting at home, naked, eating twinkies, rubbing your hands together going "Heh. Target Destroyed. Mission Accomplished." Oh wait. that's not helping.

You know what I just realized? You based that ranking system off of cods, aka the 20 exp bs.

  • 09.16.2009 2:17 PM PDT

oh death was never enemy of ours

people really need to stop comparing Halo 3 with CoD. they are two seperate games. if you like aspects of CoD more, then play CoD, same with halo. Dont mix different games together, Halo is a good game because of the way it is unique

  • 09.16.2009 2:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Black Eagle X99
You know what I just realized? You based that ranking system off of cods, aka the 20 exp bs.
No, I don't play COD so I have absolutely no idea how its ranking system works.

You can change the numbers around.

2 POINTS for a kill. 3 POINTS for a headshot. etc.

200 POINTS equals 1 EXP.
1 EXP equals a rank-up.
etc.

That make more sense to someone like you?


P.S. I like how you message me and recognize me as "the most annoying person on the Halo Reach forum" because I have absolutely no idea who you are. Does it feel good?

[Edited on 09.16.2009 2:34 PM PDT]

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: halo2jumper
Not again -.-* HALO IS NOT CALL OF DUTY or BATTLEFIELD.
So... hold on one mother -blam!- ing second. Rewarding individuals for carrying teams would... turn Halo into Call of Duty and Battlefield? Why the hell do people like you post on these forums? You have no logic.

On topic. Yes. It would be great if we were rewarded for more than just wins. Of course we should get an extra bonus for winning since the game is about teams.

But let's say you lose. Like in H3 you still lose no EXP, but if you happened to do about as good as the people on the winning team you would still earn some EXP, not getting completely shut out because of some noobs on your team.

If you are on the losing team but get MVP and do the best in the whole game you could potentially earn the most EXP in the game, even if you didn't win (for example, you go 25-3 but still lose, you still deserve lots of EXP).

Some potential break-downs.

Betrayal -2 EXP
Death -1EXP
Assist 1 EXP
Kill 2 EXP
Headshot 3 EXP
Stick 4 EXP
Double Kill 4 EXP
Won the match 20 EXP
Quit the match -20 EXP

Maybe 200 EXP would cause you to rank up early on; something like that.


U r agree with this -blam!-,because u cant get a 50 in Halo 3 and u suck so much...
So gtfo -.-*

  • 09.16.2009 3:50 PM PDT

You killed Flipyap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - unkown grunt

let go of my purse i dont know you - Bobby Hill

silly rabbit,trix are for kids - selfish kids
stranger danger - ralph wiggum
i lost the game - some -blam-ing -blam-er

just cause cod has a different gaming system and we want a new one doesnt mean we can get some ideas from it they dont copyright it bungie will make it so its you have to do the same work like maybe raising the xp requirements to rank up we are not going to get 50xp per game with same xp requirements serisously we dont wasn that either u are just being dumb if you thought we did


any wasy 1 xp for a win and no xp for a lose is pretty dumb dont you thik we need a new one that really determines how much you earn and deserve

[Edited on 09.16.2009 4:10 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 4:08 PM PDT

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There is one problem though, Call of Duty's ranking system is flawed in that you CANNOT RANK DOWN (unless your an idiot who betrays, btw your not gonna betray as much as your gonna kill... EVER.). ONLY UP. And so long as you play, you ALWAYS GAIN XP. If they did this with Halo, it would be like EVERYONE with over 600 xp is a general, I would be, you would be, EVERYONE. No skill anymore. Just time.

[Edited on 09.16.2009 4:18 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 4:17 PM PDT

So...
You want to copy the Elites?

Just kidding, anyway, my opinion is no. The rank system is fine as is. I liked the bar idea some guy earlier had, about being able to see how many matches you need to win to rank up.

  • 09.16.2009 5:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: halo2jumper
Not again -.-* HALO IS NOT CALL OF DUTY or BATTLEFIELD.
So... hold on one mother -blam!- ing second. Rewarding individuals for carrying teams would... turn Halo into Call of Duty and Battlefield? Why the hell do people like you post on these forums? You have no logic.

On topic. Yes. It would be great if we were rewarded for more than just wins. Of course we should get an extra bonus for winning since the game is about teams.

But let's say you lose. Like in H3 you still lose no EXP, but if you happened to do about as good as the people on the winning team you would still earn some EXP, not getting completely shut out because of some noobs on your team.

If you are on the losing team but get MVP and do the best in the whole game you could potentially earn the most EXP in the game, even if you didn't win (for example, you go 25-3 but still lose, you still deserve lots of EXP).

Some potential break-downs.

Betrayal -2 EXP
Death -1EXP
Assist 1 EXP
Kill 2 EXP
Headshot 3 EXP
Stick 4 EXP
Double Kill 4 EXP
Won the match 20 EXP
Quit the match -20 EXP

Maybe 200 EXP would cause you to rank up early on; something like that.



THIS IS NOT CALL OF HALO, NOT GEARS OF HALO, NOT RAINBOW SIX HALO, NOR SPARTA.

Go Home.

  • 09.16.2009 5:34 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: Rockeraven
THIS IS NOT CALL OF HALO, NOT GEARS OF HALO, NOT RAINBOW SIX HALO, NOR SPARTA.

Go Home.


You know, pulling the "this isn't [game other than Halo]," card on people tends not to make people think too highly of you.

[Edited on 09.16.2009 5:59 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 5:52 PM PDT

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I say yes.

Or have trueskill assigned via wins, and exp given for kills.

  • 09.16.2009 5:55 PM PDT
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  • 09.16.2009 6:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: halo2jumper
Not again -.-* HALO IS NOT CALL OF DUTY or BATTLEFIELD.
what!! oh come on.it would be a good thing for most people that don't suck at the game!!

  • 09.16.2009 6:30 PM PDT

I guess it could work in some areas, but then again, a ranking system based totally around kills would make everyone ignore the objective completely. COD works almost exactly like that, but it's works somewhat for COD because of it's design. Halo is designed differently in many ways, it would be riskier to make a new system, rather then the somewhat effective system we have now.

It would have to go much deeper then just kills, while still making teamwork a primary factor.

[Edited on 09.16.2009 6:31 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 6:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: halo2jumper
Not again -.-* HALO IS NOT CALL OF DUTY or BATTLEFIELD.


jesus christ kid one aspect of the game such as ranking up doesn't make it god damn call of duty. this idea is great because instead of carrying your crappy team on your back to rank up, you rank up by your own skill.

  • 09.16.2009 6:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: Josephson
Posted by: halo2jumper
Not again -.-* HALO IS NOT CALL OF DUTY or BATTLEFIELD.


jesus christ kid one aspect of the game such as ranking up doesn't make it god damn call of duty. this idea is great because instead of carrying your crappy team on your back to rank up, you rank up by your own skill.
right!! well said.

  • 09.16.2009 6:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: WAR HOROR13
What I HATE about Halo 3 is that the ranking system is based off of wins, not kills and that's why the CoD ranking system is so spectacular. You could get 30 kills in a Slayer game while a couple of your other teammates are not playing (like eating a sandwich or taking a dump that lasts the enitre game) which causes you too lose, you did great but you still lost XP or went down a skill level.

Do you think that this should be fixed in Reach so we don't face these problems?

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  • 09.16.2009 7:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: halo2jumper
Not again -.-* HALO IS NOT CALL OF DUTY or BATTLEFIELD.


Well, actually, making it into kills would stop alot of level complaining.

I say good idea. Just dont make it a complete clone of CoD or Battlefields system.

  • 09.17.2009 5:13 AM PDT
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In my opinion... Making a leveling up system based on Kills? Is the worst idea ever!

No just no...

  • 09.17.2009 5:50 AM PDT

You just got Shakespeared!

1 kill= 1point
win a game=5 points
thats a good ranking system!

  • 09.17.2009 5:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: Hexen
In my opinion... Making a leveling up system based on Kills? Is the worst idea ever!

No just no...
Not just kills... kills, deaths, assists, flag captures, bomb arms, flag steals, assassinations, killing sprees, etc.

... oh, and Wins.

You would still get most of your EXP from winning, but I think it's more fair to let someone who does really good still earn some EXP if they do as good as the average person on the winning team (and especially if they do the best in the game but still lose).

  • 09.17.2009 5:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Hexen
In my opinion... Making a leveling up system based on Kills? Is the worst idea ever!

No just no...
Not just kills... kills, deaths, assists, flag captures, bomb arms, flag steals, assassinations, killing sprees, etc.

... oh, and Wins.


You would still get most of your EXP from winning, but I think it's more fair to let someone who does really good still earn some EXP if they do as good as the average person on the winning team (and especially if they do the best in the game but still lose).


You know that actually makes sense, I could imagine like getting small experience bits by bits by killing and maybe a litlle pop up number telling you yaay 25 exp for killing MLG Cheehwawa! lol, and Scoring the Flag ect... Though it would obviously not work in Custom lol

Still its a huge leap for Halo's normal setup, So i dont know...

  • 09.17.2009 6:09 AM PDT

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