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Subject: Do u want BR back in Reach?

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...Yes...why wouldn't it be. And everyone that says the BR is overpowered...that's because it is a weapon that is hard to use. I agree with the people who say keep the BR and make it harder to use. Everything in halo 3 has been noobed down. In Halo: CE the range between a new player and a pro was HUGE, but I'm afraid in Halo 3 there is a SIGNIFICANTLY smaller gap. The pistol took SKILL to use, and things like rockets acted like rockets. If you shot a rocket at the ground five feet from you, you would die. They should really look at the first Halo, see what everyone liked, and bring that back.

If it means switching the BR for the Halo 1 pistol, so be it. The only reason you guys don't want this weapon is because you all play the games with AR starts and you don't know how to use the BR so you get owned.

KEEP THE BR

  • 10.10.2009 4:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: The_Real_McCoy
...Yes...why wouldn't it be.
For the same reason the CE pistol wasn't in H2. For the same reason the H3 BR is totally different than the H2 BR - balance and gameplay.

Posted by: The_Real_McCoy
And everyone that says the BR is overpowered...that's because it is a weapon that is hard to use.
It's not overpowered in H3. In fact it's messed up. It doesn't take that much skill. It has a random burst that rewards the lucky player with the 4 shot. As far as getting headshots, go play SWAT and tell me how hard it is to headshot with the BR as opposed to a magnum or carbine. The BR is crap and takes very little skill in H3.
Posted by: The_Real_McCoy
I agree with the people who say keep the BR and make it harder to use. Everything in halo 3 has been noobed down. In Halo: CE the range between a new player and a pro was HUGE, but I'm afraid in Halo 3 there is a SIGNIFICANTLY smaller gap. The pistol took SKILL to use, and things like rockets acted like rockets. If you shot a rocket at the ground five feet from you, you would die. They should really look at the first Halo, see what everyone liked, and bring that back.
Now I can agree with that. I made suggestions on how to make the BR take more skill, yet not be overpowered towards the bottom of the previous page.

Posted by: The_Real_McCoy
If it means switching the BR for the Halo 1 pistol, so be it. The only reason you guys don't want this weapon is because you all play the games with AR starts and you don't know how to use the BR so you get owned.
No, no, no. There are MANY people who want the BR out not because they can't use it, but because they realize it's a broken weapon that isn't conducive to consistent or the best gameplay.

Posted by: The_Real_McCoy
KEEP THE BR
I'll modify that a little. Keep the BR IF you change it to take more skill, not be a cheap burst headshot weapon, etc. If not, then take it out and replace it.

  • 10.10.2009 5:05 PM PDT

Wtihout a BR or something similar to take its place you will have to remove every type of power weapon with more than a medium range effectively dumbing down the game play and it being less fun for many.

  • 10.10.2009 5:09 PM PDT

if the BR isn't in reach i will quit halo forever & go play cod everyday

  • 10.10.2009 5:16 PM PDT

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Halo2 Ce>>>>Halo1>>>Halo 2>>>Halo 3

make it like the halo 2 br

  • 10.10.2009 5:30 PM PDT
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you guys are idiotic and stupid too think the pistol would better suit MLG instead of the BR. Sundance and Puckett already said they want the BR too stay so wat makes u think your bias hatred towards it will do any good???

You personal opinion doesnt matter its a group decision and as you can see, the group is out voting your sorry asses ya scrubs

  • 10.10.2009 5:31 PM PDT

Helll yaaaa BRs are the best weapon to touch Halo.

  • 10.10.2009 5:37 PM PDT

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If they have to replace the M6D with the BR to get BR in, it's not worth it. Besides, BR wasn't in Halo:CE, how would it be in Halo Reach? BR is still good though.

[Edited on 10.10.2009 5:42 PM PDT]

  • 10.10.2009 5:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: eeMbO
you guys are idiotic and stupid too think the pistol would better suit MLG instead of the BR. Sundance and Puckett already said they want the BR too stay so wat makes u think your bias hatred towards it will do any good???

You personal opinion doesnt matter its a group decision and as you can see, the group is out voting your sorry asses ya scrubs


"BR stays" means nothing in the vote. Which BR? The H2 BR which was a bit like the HCE pistol, or the H3 BR with it's random spread? By BR do you simply mean a weapon that is built for mid-range? Who's going to vote against taking out the only mid-range, dominant weapon? There are a lot of faulty associations with this question. People don't want the mid-range weapons taken out, and neither do I. But the BR here is not the way it should be. And many MLG players would prefer a less random, more skillful mid-range weapon. Call it a BR if you want to, but it shouldn't look like the one we have now.

  • 10.10.2009 5:39 PM PDT

Don't care just want the halo 1 pistol or something of the like

  • 10.10.2009 6:11 PM PDT

look like the majority want the BR
looks like were winning :)

  • 10.10.2009 6:17 PM PDT

I could care less if it is in multiplayer, but it should not be in the campaign. (Depending on which group of spartans you are...)

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Lets be honest here people, without the Battle Rifle Halo 3 matchmaking quickly becomes dull and predictable. There's no talent involved in taking an Assault Rifle holding down your trigger and running straight at your opponent ready for the beatdown. Most kids who start playing Halo play that way and anyone who pursues Halo quickly gets onto the Battle Rifle because they know that an accurate Battle Rifle is devastating. Thats a sign of progression, any multiplayer game needs an avenue for that players can pursue, a weapon that players can work on to improve their play - most other weapons (sniper aside) take little skill and a dependance on a good connection (AR, Shotgun, Mauler, Sword, SMG even the Rockets) Without the Battle Rifle we'd be running at each other hoping the person we're shooting at isn't host otherwise it'd take 2 clips to take him down. Not to mention without the Battle Rifle the Sniper instantly becomes overpowered. Halo Reach needs a Battle Rifle or a gun that mimics its function to ensure players have the ability to further their skills and by the looks of the single Halo Reach image we have, we're getting one. The Spartan is clearly holding some kind of Battle Rifle.

  • 10.10.2009 6:58 PM PDT

"From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother"

No. Dont like the BR at all, but in Reach they're probably have the prototype BR instead.

  • 10.10.2009 7:03 PM PDT

i have to say i really like the BR i dont mind the AR at all dont get me wrong but id say just have the BR for multiplayer and AR in both multiplayer and campaign. and btw if were talking story here then were did the AR go during halo 2?

  • 10.10.2009 7:04 PM PDT

Posted by: klegs iz beast
look like the majority want the BR
looks like were winning :)


I think its kind of suspicious that multiple "people" are posting with the same avatar you have and the same profile background.

No BR

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  • 10.10.2009 7:23 PM PDT

I would like to see the BR return in Reach.

  • 10.10.2009 7:25 PM PDT

Do you really care? you can't automatically see my signature anyway.

I would perfer the MA5K or a different single shot weapon but not the BR (h2 or h3). the BR-centric gameplay of h3 is utter and complete fail (because in halo 3 bungie designed the gameplay around the BR [e.g. reworking all of the weapons around the BR])

  • 10.10.2009 7:42 PM PDT

"Be Prepared and Semper Fi do or die"

The BR was not a standard issue weapon in reach, and was not yet used by the spartans.

  • 10.10.2009 7:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.

I don't know, the head guy at Bungie in charge of weapon design is quoted as saying "I never liked the BR, I HATE the BR. That is why we took it out of ODST."


he hates the BR so much it's been in all halo sequels, replacing the M6D....
the opinion of one dev doesn't count in term of gameplay. if it fits in and has an important role, then whether the devs like that thing or not, it needs to stay there.

let's say they remove the br (and M6D since it is basically a reskinned br). on map without carbines, a sniper would dominate.


well actually the energy sword was removed from ODST becuase a lead designer for the game wanted it removed, so the BR may as well still be removed from reach although i highly doubt this.

  • 10.10.2009 7:50 PM PDT

We should have a new mid-range weapon that is more difficult to master, but has better shot registrations. The pistol in ODST was a decent example of that, less auto aim, more skill.

  • 10.10.2009 7:51 PM PDT

Posted by: xxShadow Uchiha
No. Dont like the BR at all, but in Reach they're probably have the prototype BR instead.

that is a possiblity becuase in contact harvest johnson was using the BR prototype when he had his first encounter with the covies

  • 10.10.2009 7:54 PM PDT

Ive seen a single AR bullet and beatdown work... its annoying, the thing is the AR has terrible shot registeration.
that being said BR > AR
but still wont make any differnce in the next game. reach is before Halo 2 and the BR was introduced as a new weapon in Halo 2, that saying there is a high % chance that if they do have the BR it is going to be nerfd but implemented with a more powerful(compared to the new BR.) mid to long range weapon.(return of H1 pistol we can only hope.) but as the idea was tossed away in H2 i doubt it to be as powerful... but then agin ive heard reports that Reach is going to be a game for the more competetive side of halo so they might inculde both.
end result. there is going to be a Medium to long range weapon thats of decent power that will applease us... /thread

  • 10.10.2009 8:00 PM PDT

In some degree, yes.. but if they do I just want to see it do single shot bullets like it did in Halo 2 E3 thing, I was kinda looking forward to that type of BR, but the burst fire really killed it.

Mostly no because Bungie might make new weapons for Reach that we haven't seen yet.

  • 10.10.2009 8:46 PM PDT