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Subject: Do u want BR back in Reach?
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also halo 1 pistol

  • 10.10.2009 9:11 PM PDT

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since ALOT of ONI facilities were on Reach & they were barley testing the BR at the time it could be explainable if it were to be put in- but I hope it isn't. ppl need to love the carbine.

  • 10.10.2009 9:20 PM PDT
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ok first of all its 3 in the body and 1 in the head thats a 4shot not just in the head fyi

but ur tryin 2 tell me that its overpowering when (if ur playin mlg which i dount u are kid) there are ppl who actually can strafe well enough to where it actually is challenging to get a 4shot and also can 4shot u back so please tell me how its overpowering again kid

i can see how its overpowering to u because all u do is ar ppl across the map in social slayer and wonderin why theyre not dyin

i would not like 2 see the br go but i would like the old pistol back so i think both would be really good

  • 10.10.2009 9:25 PM PDT
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The reason you don't like the BR is because your accuracy is like that of a blind mouse.

  • 10.10.2009 9:31 PM PDT
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I really liked your idea of starting a thread about balancing weapons. I've created an extension for this thread here.
Posted by: RELLIK PIR
Posted by: fifthderelicte
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you guys are idiotic and stupid too think the pistol would better suit MLG instead of the BR. Sundance and Puckett already said they want the BR too stay so wat makes u think your bias hatred towards it will do any good???

You personal opinion doesnt matter its a group decision and as you can see, the group is out voting your sorry asses ya scrubs


"BR stays" means nothing in the vote. Which BR? The H2 BR which was a bit like the HCE pistol, or the H3 BR with it's random spread? By BR do you simply mean a weapon that is built for mid-range? Who's going to vote against taking out the only mid-range, dominant weapon? There are a lot of faulty associations with this question. People don't want the mid-range weapons taken out, and neither do I. But the BR here is not the way it should be. And many MLG players would prefer a less random, more skillful mid-range weapon. Call it a BR if you want to, but it shouldn't look like the one we have now.


Ok this proves that we want a BR or something simular. Now someone needs to start a thread to discuss what we want in the way of midrange weapons and other weapons and what kind of kill speed we want in Halo. I think kill speed in halo is way to slow as is. I think the power of non powerweapons across the scale need to be able to kill in under 2 seconds consistently

  • 10.10.2009 9:36 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: DanieLtheSpartaN
The reason you don't like the BR is because your accuracy is like that of a blind mouse.
No. I don't like the BR because is marginalizes every other non-power weapon.

  • 10.10.2009 9:41 PM PDT
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If the BR is not in the game I simply wont buy it.

  • 10.10.2009 9:56 PM PDT
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I voted YES to have the BR in Halo Reach. I like the idea a lot of you have had also with the addition of the Halo:CE pistol also. Make the BR like the Halo 2 BR which didn't have randomness to it. Randomness =/= Skill. Just make the BR and Pistol both be 4 shot kills so one does not over power the other and Halo:Reach would be amazing.

  • 10.10.2009 10:20 PM PDT

hell yes? why not?

[Edited on 10.10.2009 10:29 PM PDT]

  • 10.10.2009 10:28 PM PDT

-blam!- yea the BR should come back

  • 10.11.2009 12:05 AM PDT
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Ok from what ive understood, reach is supposed to be reaching out to the competitive side of gaming.< guess what that means if they take out the weapon competitive gamers use the most. Bungie would lose lots of Customers<<< This is bad. Now for all these kids flaming the Br. All you know how to do is run up to someone just firing that ar off with the trigger mashed< Guess what this requires no skill at all. Now how about you start playing MLG < competitive side of h3 and get good at this game, But on a serious note how bout they take out the AR and stuff because its just a waste of space on my disk, maybe the game will run smoother lol

  • 10.11.2009 12:14 AM PDT
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i really dont care what weapons are in the campain. for me i want the BR back in multiplayer. that works for all of those that like the story line and those who just play for the multiplayer. the BR is one of the few weapons that you dont have to spay and pray. Taking it out will not help the multiplayer it will slow it done to a point where it isnt fun anymore or make it where everyone runs out into the mid and spays. i do like the CE pistol but it is way more overpowered then the BR.

  • 10.11.2009 12:45 AM PDT

Join the Band of Brothers today!

Bungie said when they made ODST that they hate the BR its -blam!-

  • 10.11.2009 12:48 AM PDT
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@ OP
Why not? Because you can't aim with it or because you want more ARs?

[Edited on 10.11.2009 12:55 AM PDT]

  • 10.11.2009 12:55 AM PDT

Posted by: Sonic343
I don't think you are allowed to talk about bungie on Bungie.net.

Absolutely not.
There hasn't been a more game-breaking weapon in the game than the BR.

  • 10.11.2009 12:55 AM PDT

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Im a Bungie veteran. I have and always will serve them well.

I do want the BR back because I can see Bungie actually making the BR a better weapon. But I am going to say no don't bring it back.

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  • 10.11.2009 1:07 AM PDT

The less than a second latency of online play is a better system to play off of than more health.

You realize this system is just as host based, right? because if you're fighting host, or someone with a better connection to host, and you each start firing at the same time, his BULLETS will register first, giving him slightly more health if the melees happen at the same time.

So would you rather have the BS of both, or just one?

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NO
If ODST is any indication the crappy BR (aka the game killing glory hog that grinds shields/ spams head-shots/ keeps you far removed from peril weapon) is on its way out in exchange for headshot weapons that don't become the only go-to weapon of the game.

As fun as BRs may be to use, they do ultimately relegate over half the game's arsenal to the useless bin (heck at least rockets have some deterrent against point blank use (not nearly enough but some)).

  • 10.11.2009 1:17 AM PDT

The less than a second latency of online play is a better system to play off of than more health.

You realize this system is just as host based, right? because if you're fighting host, or someone with a better connection to host, and you each start firing at the same time, his BULLETS will register first, giving him slightly more health if the melees happen at the same time.

So would you rather have the BS of both, or just one?

-HaVOk1228

Posted by: Bad Wolf Claw
@ OP
Why not? Because you can't aim with it or because you want more ARs?


Nah, he's likely just sick of players picking up BRs and either picking up free kills by out ranging half the game's arsenal or simply cutting player lives in half with a trio of shielded life-ending bullets while most other weapons still have to keep applying damage (with no reward whatsoever for their headshots).
EDIT: SRRY for double post.
I understand your distaste of the AR (I'm dissapointed in it as well) but the only way we will ever see bungie get to fixing the arsenal (making every weapon as capable as a BR) is if we kill the current BR and apply a little of what it offers to the rest of the game's arsenal.
-We don't want a game with nothing but spammers, we want the spammers to be more BR-like (in that they reward aim/ can fight beyond melee range).

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  • 10.11.2009 1:27 AM PDT

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Burst fire weapons suck. 'Nuff said.

  • 10.11.2009 1:39 AM PDT
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Hell Yes.I know they kind of made the silenced smg the new br in ODST but the br is better.I would like to see the silenced smg in reach aswell

  • 10.11.2009 2:56 AM PDT

^ Above = Person who is terrible with Battle Rifle.

Don't worry little BK, there will be a day when YOU will kill someone with the BR in under 10 shots, and then you'll realise, that it is a SKILL BASED WEAPON.

The above things that you propsed would render Halo Skilless! Why do the spiker, Plasma rifle, SMG, pistol all do minimal damage?

Simply becuase, they are make for BAD PLAYERS. They have super large reticles and are easy to aim with, but do little damage becuase they are SO easy to use. They are for the first-time Halo players who need something easy to use. That's fine. But if they were POWERFUL also, then you would have EASY to use and POWERFUl weapons, which would render the game un-playable.

Now, if you are good enough at Halo 3 you will find the BR is a very powerful weapon. BUT ONLY when you can shoot people consitantly in the head. Thus, it is POWERFUL but HARD to use. So there's the trade-off. Harder to use but more power. The ultimate example of this is the Sniper Rifle.

What you are proposing would make Halo 3 a game dominated by skill-less "power weapons" that would ruin the game for general play as every random BK would be able to kill every Halo 3 faithful and good player EASY. As they will have these easy to use and POWERFUL weapons at their disposal. And no matter how good the "other" players are, large reticles will make EVERYONE able to kill in the minimum time. Thus, Halo MLG would not exist and the largest Halo 3 community would be eradicated.

Thankyou for your opinion - you have just ruined Halo. Goodbye.

  • 10.11.2009 3:23 AM PDT

Multiplayer Gameplay
Halo:CE------------------Reach--------Halo2-----------------H alo3
Campaign Experience
Reach----Halo:CE-----------------ODST-----Halo2---------Halo3

Glad that Halo 3 garbage is dead, thanks to Reach.
Unfreakenbelievable!!

Posted by: Jim Beanz
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I'm not sure who exactly you were referring to as a "BK", but anyway...

Your post pretty much stated that you prefer weapons based on purely skill, yet you continue to use a weapon that sprays in bursts (with a spread just a bit tighter than the AR's) as a weapon that is extremely hard to use and therefore the most skillful weapon in the game (other than the Sniper).

So I would take it then that you would prefer the H3 BR's functionality over a more skillful BR functionality that you would get with an accurate single-shot? Though, that would contradict your want for a more skillful weapon.

You seem to think that it is the end of Halo if a BR doesn't exist. So replacing it with a more skill-based weapon (as in precision, as in accurate single-shot) would be out of the question then? No it wouldn't, and Halo would do just fine, provided they don't keep the same BS bowl of random goodness from Halo 3.


Also, my first MLG settings played was in 2002, before a BR was even ever considered being designed for the series. MLG started due to the competitiveness that was found through the M6D Magnum. Halo has gone downhill ever since, as far as skillful gameplay.


(I'll just ignore that you included the M6G Magnum as a weapon made for "bad players" and easy to use, because that weapon requires much more precision than a BR, as anyone with the right mind can comprehend, even with its ridiculous amount of random bullet output.)

  • 10.11.2009 5:25 AM PDT
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Halo 2 BR and Halo CE pistol should be in the game. That would be fantastic.

  • 10.11.2009 6:11 AM PDT

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all im going to say is that it shouldnt be a starting weapon.it its out of the game that would be better.to solve the fight it should be in halo but not as a starting weapon.the starting weapons should be the AR and Mag

  • 10.11.2009 6:13 AM PDT

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Just keep ODST automag pistol and Bring back
Halo CE AR!!

  • 10.11.2009 6:39 AM PDT