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Posted by: LockeGenRedux
Well, I hate to break it to all of you Die hard BR fans, but...

If you go through the stories and such, the BR was actually introduced about the middle of First Strike, Contrary to that, the prototype BR was in use by Johnson in Harvest.
So, Techniqually... The BR would not be in the game unless it were a prototype or Bungie decides to put it in just for kicks. This could be one of those "Up to Bungie" Things...

But just saying, The BR wont be in Reach, for the Conflicting Story reasons.

good gameplay > story.
and there were BRs on reach. not the prototypes ones. they were introduced in first strike, when 117 meets up with the other spartans in the ONI buildings... and they have BRs there.

  • 09.16.2009 2:12 PM PDT

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I would like to have it, but I don't want it to dominate all the other non power weapons. Most of the time the only reason why it's used most of the time is because most of the time, most other weapons can't compete with the Br without a nade or melee, where as the BR is completely capable of killing people with just bullets. I would like to have other non-power weapons be able to compete with the Br without having to resort to melee attacks.

  • 09.16.2009 2:24 PM PDT
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How do we bring back a weapon we love/hate? We simply change it, so it can remain what it is supposed to be, a Medium ranged weapon.

Anway, besides TW inkognito's weapon balance proposal, if Bungie really wants to have an all purpose weapon, it should revert back to the M6D, as for the Battle Rifle, it should be tweaked, so its good only at medium range, which is capable of dealing light damage to unscope Snipers from a long range.

  • 09.16.2009 2:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: LockeGenRedux
Well, I hate to break it to all of you Die hard BR fans, but...

If you go through the stories and such, the BR was actually introduced about the middle of First Strike, Contrary to that, the prototype BR was in use by Johnson in Harvest.
So, Techniqually... The BR would not be in the game unless it were a prototype or Bungie decides to put it in just for kicks. This could be one of those "Up to Bungie" Things...

But just saying, The BR wont be in Reach, for the Conflicting Story reasons.
Wait a second. It takes 23 years for a rifle to go from the prototype phase to the fielded phase?

Don't think so. Ever consider the possibility that the Spartans just never encountered the BR before First Strike? Maybe their Spartan-issue (M6D, M6C/SOCOM) pistols were compact and effective enough to fill the void. We never saw them use Hornets either but we know that they existed in the field long before.

  • 09.16.2009 2:28 PM PDT
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No.

Posted by: LockeGenRedux
Well, I hate to break it to all of you Die hard BR fans, but...

If you go through the stories and such, the BR was actually introduced about the middle of First Strike, Contrary to that, the prototype BR was in use by Johnson in Harvest.
So, Techniqually... The BR would not be in the game unless it were a prototype or Bungie decides to put it in just for kicks. This could be one of those "Up to Bungie" Things...

But just saying, The BR wont be in Reach, for the Conflicting Story reasons.


Plus, 87% of BR whores are smug little MLG -blam!-s who make -blam!-ory videos of themselves "owning" and posting them all over youtube. The other 23% are some 13 year olds named Connor that jus want a gun that does all their work for them.


BUT. Bungie can make it work. It doesn't have to be this way. The BR can be as useful as it is a challenge to use. As it stands now, it's an overpowered BS hose. Kinda like the the GOWshotgun.

Maybe it should just be single shot semi auto? It shoots as fast as your finger can pull the trigger? No. THat should stay the pistol's forte'.

Maybe they SHOULD get rid of the BR in favor of the pistol. As long as it serves the same purpose and is not as overpowered as the BR.

[Edited on 09.16.2009 2:34 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 2:29 PM PDT

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Yes. To me, it is the best weapon in the series.

  • 09.16.2009 2:29 PM PDT

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  • 09.16.2009 2:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Tonoottu
If the BR is taken out of the game it will drop Halo's sales instantly. The AR was brought back because some people (noobs) were whining about not having the AR and/or that the BR is too over powered, which it isn't. According to canon the Pillar of Autumn was specially designed for spartan's use on missions, thus having the AR which is normally too large for Marines, and the M6D with explosive rounds. I personally would love the BR to stay. I mean come on a pistol that 3 shot's is even worse than the BR. People complain about the BR because either A: They don't know how to use it, B: Because MLG uses it or C: A and B. I mean GET OVER WITH IT Halo is a COMPETITIVE GAME this isn't frigin Hello Kitty Island Adventure for crying out loud. And btw MLG used the Halo 1 pistol too you know, so it probably wouldn't take out MLG from using Halo. But Halo 3: ODST was originally supposed to be an expansion but it turned out to be a full game. And the original arsenal in that specific game had stealth weapons (Silenced SMG and Magnum)

You know that AR wasn't considered a noob weapon until bungie made it suck. It was actually a lot more useful in Halo CE. And Halo is only a competitive game if you want it to be.

I think that they shouldn't include the BR in Reach. It's had it's run as the main weapon in two games and we now need a new weapon. Hopefully one that doesn't look like a silly french gun.

  • 09.16.2009 2:53 PM PDT
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No.

Posted by: COB Sagemind
WHOA!

You know what I just realized?

It's a video game. :/


Shut your -blam!- mouth. If that's all you ever have to add anywhere on this form, then why even make an account? Why -blam!- post here?

The objective is to make this a more ENJOYABLE game fool.

  • 09.16.2009 2:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: LockeGenRedux
Well, I hate to break it to all of you Die hard BR fans, but...

If you go through the stories and such, the BR was actually introduced about the middle of First Strike, Contrary to that, the prototype BR was in use by Johnson in Harvest.
So, Techniqually... The BR would not be in the game unless it were a prototype or Bungie decides to put it in just for kicks. This could be one of those "Up to Bungie" Things...

But just saying, The BR wont be in Reach, for the Conflicting Story reasons.

good gameplay > story.


. . .and the BR makes for some very unbalanced gameplay. Like I said in my post it needs to be rethought, or removed IMO.

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NO the pistol replaced that funny enough

  • 09.16.2009 6:11 PM PDT
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Halo:Ce - pistol
Halo 2 - unstoppable BR
halo 3 - Spread but still unstoppable BR
halo 3: ODST - Pistol
Reach: uh ..... Pistol and prototype BR?

  • 09.16.2009 6:16 PM PDT

If they do bring it back, I would like them to make it return with a significant difference from Halo 2/3.

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yes.. and reach is going to bring back spartans so of course there will be BRs. ODSTs can not handle BRs and thats the only reason they are not in ODST

  • 09.16.2009 6:20 PM PDT

Weres the I dont care option. Cause I really dont care.

  • 09.16.2009 6:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: jackel24
yes.. and reach is going to bring back spartans so of course there will be BRs. ODSTs can not handle BRs and thats the only reason they are not in ODST


Wow. . .

  • 09.16.2009 6:24 PM PDT

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  • 09.16.2009 6:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: jackel24
yes.. and reach is going to bring back spartans so of course there will be BRs. ODSTs can not handle BRs and thats the only reason they are not in ODST
ODST's can't handle a br? -goes back and plays through alot of halo 2 and 3- there seam to be alot of ODST and regular marines for that matter that wield the BR ...... hmmm if they can't handle it why do they own so much with it and come in with them so much? -.^ you fail dude

  • 09.16.2009 6:27 PM PDT

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i say absolutely, cuz what would halo turn into without the BR?

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Posted by: BloodiestSparky
i say absolutely, cuz what would halo turn into without the BR?


A test of tactics moreso than a display of ones ability to camp fireing lanes?

  • 09.16.2009 6:28 PM PDT
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All it took was a stew of whoopass.

Posted by: BloodiestSparky
cuz what would halo turn into without the BR?

Halo:CE?

  • 09.16.2009 6:30 PM PDT

Posted by: BloodiestSparky
i say absolutely, cuz what would halo turn into without the BR?

Halo: CE had no BR.

  • 09.16.2009 6:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: BloodiestSparky
i say absolutely, cuz what would halo turn into without the BR?


A test of tactics moreso than a display of ones ability to camp fireing lanes?
oh so you want people with the AR's and their controller mods to dominate i see......FAIL

  • 09.16.2009 6:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: BloodiestSparky
i say absolutely, cuz what would halo turn into without the BR?


A test of tactics moreso than a display of ones ability to camp fireing lanes?
oh so you want people with the AR's and their controller mods to dominate i see......FAIL


How is that any worse than a BR with a controller mod? You don't think kid, the AR is very limited, the BR is not. Removing the BR would force people to play a little more tactically (provided maps were made to support the change).

AR domination is a funny concept, what can you dominate with an AR? Maybe a shotty/sword and mauler if your not too close. There are many other weapons that fire within the same range as the AR, the BR is the only weapon in the game that is functional in several different ranges. The BR does allow for lockdown and domination on certain maps, the AR does not. Your fireback is "FAIL".

  • 09.16.2009 6:45 PM PDT

lets face it. the BR is the most OVERPOWERED gun in the game and ruins the point of skill. All you have to do it get 4-5 bursts to the head and a kill.

  • 09.16.2009 6:51 PM PDT