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Subject: Do u want BR back in Reach?
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Posted by: Sporkette
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Of course I would like to see the BR return in Reach. While it's a good weapon to use, I think people like it a little too much. The BR has become too much of a crutch for many players including those in MLG. People need to branch out and become well rounded in using all sorts of weapons in Halo, even the ones that you don't think work well. If you ever watch an MLG montage, the entire video is nothing but BRs and Snipers, with the occasional Rocket. I just sit and wonder what would happen if they were stuck with an AR? If anything we should be asking if there will be an AR in Halo: Reach.

  • 10.13.2009 7:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: Blitzboy289
Posted by: Jim Beanz
^ Above = Person who is terrible with Battle Rifle.

Don't worry little BK, there will be a day when YOU will kill someone with the BR in under 10 shots, and then you'll realise, that it is a SKILL BASED WEAPON.

The above things that you propsed would render Halo Skilless! Why do the spiker, Plasma rifle, SMG, pistol all do minimal damage?

Simply becuase, they are make for BAD PLAYERS. They have super large reticles and are easy to aim with, but do little damage becuase they are SO easy to use. They are for the first-time Halo players who need something easy to use. That's fine. But if they were POWERFUL also, then you would have EASY to use and POWERFUl weapons, which would render the game un-playable.

Now, if you are good enough at Halo 3 you will find the BR is a very powerful weapon. BUT ONLY when you can shoot people consitantly in the head. Thus, it is POWERFUL but HARD to use. So there's the trade-off. Harder to use but more power. The ultimate example of this is the Sniper Rifle.

What you are proposing would make Halo 3 a game dominated by skill-less "power weapons" that would ruin the game for general play as every random BK would be able to kill every Halo 3 faithful and good player EASY. As they will have these easy to use and POWERFUL weapons at their disposal. And no matter how good the "other" players are, large reticles will make EVERYONE able to kill in the minimum time. Thus, Halo MLG would not exist and the largest Halo 3 community would be eradicated.

Thankyou for your opinion - you have just ruined Halo. Goodbye.


How is it "skill" if you only use one weapon when there is a whole halo arsenal at you disposal?

Blitzboy, you just owned him.

Jim Beanz is obviously too bad to hold a target long enough to kill with an automatic weapon... think Master Chief in CoD4 (AatC).

  • 10.13.2009 9:35 PM PDT

The strongest Rivals are also the strongest allies.

the br was released during halo 2, the beta version released to spartans and select odst, cauld be inclueded

  • 10.13.2009 9:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zl0rfik
Absolutely not.
There hasn't been a more game-breaking weapon in the game than the BR.


Do explain how it's game breaking, I'd love to hear it.

  • 10.13.2009 9:46 PM PDT

The strongest Rivals are also the strongest allies.


Posted by: Jim Beanz
Halo MLG would not exist and the largest Halo 3 community would be eradicated.
....mlg, is the reason why ppl lose games now, because the dont relise that a br can not kill a said vehical as fast as the ar can. this is the reason, why mlg is, and shall ways be, the biggest flaw to halo.

  • 10.13.2009 9:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: BOB THE DOCTER

Posted by: Jim Beanz
Halo MLG would not exist and the largest Halo 3 community would be eradicated.
....mlg, is the reason why ppl lose games now, because the dont relise that a br can not kill a said vehical as fast as the ar can. this is the reason, why mlg is, and shall ways be, the biggest flaw to halo.



That was, for lack of better word, outright retarded. MLG is no way, shape, or form the cause for what you just described, I can't understand why you would think that. Although I would assume you're another one of those idiots that thinks anything associated with the Br is also associated with MLG. I'm sure you can't possibly fathom what I'm about to say, but it isn't. MLG is not the biggest flaw to Halo, sure it has it's downside but for the most part it's helped Halo by bringing the competitive side of it out.

  • 10.13.2009 9:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: turtle3242008
hell no

Dude, this is the last game, it needs every weapon from every game including the Vehicles.

  • 10.13.2009 10:36 PM PDT

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  • 10.13.2009 11:54 PM PDT

I do but I want to be able to switch from single shot to three shot burst

  • 10.14.2009 12:06 AM PDT

Ugh, NO. I hate the BR... Carbine and Automag/Halo 1 pistol are so much better.

[Edited on 10.14.2009 12:49 AM PDT]

  • 10.14.2009 12:48 AM PDT

yes but with ROF toggle. taking away the need for an AR

  • 10.14.2009 1:10 AM PDT

Posted by: BOB THE DOCTER

Posted by: Jim Beanz
Halo MLG would not exist and the largest Halo 3 community would be eradicated.
....mlg, is the reason why ppl lose games now, because the dont relise that a br can not kill a said vehical as fast as the ar can. this is the reason, why mlg is, and shall ways be, the biggest flaw to halo.



MLG is not a feature of halo...it's a gametype. MLG has nothing 2 do with vehicles. I dont even like MLG but what you are saying is really dumb.

  • 10.14.2009 1:15 AM PDT

bungie has proven that a bunch of monkeys sitting in front of keyboards can randomly type out a masterpiece. the thing is, when you go to play the masterpiece, you cant help but notice all the monkey s**t smeared all over it.

it gets real old having to wait months for someone like mlg to clean off all the monkey poo.

Posted by: Jim Beanz
^ Above = Person who is terrible with Battle Rifle.

Don't worry little BK, there will be a day when YOU will kill someone with the BR in under 10 shots, and then you'll realise, that it is a SKILL BASED WEAPON.

The above things that you propsed would render Halo Skilless! Why do the spiker, Plasma rifle, SMG, pistol all do minimal damage?

Simply becuase, they are make for BAD PLAYERS. They have super large reticles and are easy to aim with, but do little damage becuase they are SO easy to use. They are for the first-time Halo players who need something easy to use. That's fine. But if they were POWERFUL also, then you would have EASY to use and POWERFUl weapons, which would render the game un-playable.

Now, if you are good enough at Halo 3 you will find the BR is a very powerful weapon. BUT ONLY when you can shoot people consitantly in the head. Thus, it is POWERFUL but HARD to use. So there's the trade-off. Harder to use but more power. The ultimate example of this is the Sniper Rifle.

What you are proposing would make Halo 3 a game dominated by skill-less "power weapons" that would ruin the game for general play as every random BK would be able to kill every Halo 3 faithful and good player EASY. As they will have these easy to use and POWERFUL weapons at their disposal. And no matter how good the "other" players are, large reticles will make EVERYONE able to kill in the minimum time. Thus, Halo MLG would not exist and the largest Halo 3 community would be eradicated.

Thankyou for your opinion - you have just ruined Halo. Goodbye.

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Posted by: Blitzboy289
How is it "skill" if you only use one weapon when there is a whole halo arsenal at you disposal?

everyone who can aim a br can also aim smgs which have giant crosshairs and 10x more autoaim. it doesnt work both ways. not everyone who can aim a smg can aim a br.

if i can perform brain surgery, im also qualified to put a bandaid on your thumb. simply putting a bandaid on my thumb does not qualify to perform brain surgery.

you spawn more then 20 feet from your enemies, you spend 90% of your time at medium to long ranges from your enemies, bad kids dont notice you until you show up on radar, and cant aim well enough to shoot you at medium to long ranges, so, what reason would a good player have to pick up a close range weapon like an ar or smg?

  • 10.14.2009 1:37 AM PDT

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Yes because BR is pro weapon. If you don't like BR you are not good.

  • 10.14.2009 1:39 AM PDT

Dear Bungie,
If you where a woman i would marry you.

Not only should there be BRs but mabye even a new weapon. Get creative people!

  • 10.20.2009 8:15 PM PDT
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well what if it worked like this

1- The BR should stay, however have a different roll, the definition of a battle rifle is a gas operated riffle that fire a full sized rifle rounds like the 30-06, or the 7.62x51 which ironically the AR shoots. any way; right now the BR is the effective at all ranges "jack of all trades" weapon, that is the what an Assault rifle is for, i would like to see the BR semi auto so it is more accuracy oriented, instead of an other assault rifle, but it could work either way so i balanced both semi auto and burst BR

2- I think the AR should be the mid range jack o all trades weapon. like the AR in RFG where you have a slight zoom, becomes more accurate, and gets a smaller reticule. also make sound like the MA5B. i miss that wonderful noise. the definition of an assault rifle is a Gas operated rifle that fire an intermediate round. the AR fire a full sized rifle round however this makes sense do to the fact that the enemies a bigger.

so what about this

AR-
Slight Aim
Fire rate- 10/sec
shield damage- 16 rounds
Armor Damage- 4 rounds
Mag size-30
2 second kill

Burst BR-
4x zoom
fire rate 6 rounds/sec or 4 burst/sec
shield damage-13 rounds
Armor damage- 1 head shot 4 torso
roughly 2.5 second kill

Note: differences from halo 3; slightly weaker, and slightly higher fire rate

Semi-Auto BR-
4x Zoom
Fire rate- 4 rounds a sec
Shield damage- 9 rounds
Armor damage- 1 head shot 3-4 torso
Mag size-20
2.5 second kill

so in this case the AR kills faster then the BR, however with the AR you have to use burst fire to accurately hit your target at longer ranges; so the delay in fire rate allows the BR to win at longer ranges.

Halo for the Most parts takes place in close quarters
even the sniping bits, most the times you targets are under 60 meters from your position

effective ranges AR v BR in my scenario
"for reference Sandboxes pavement from end to end is 150m"

AR v BR optimum range point to blank 65m
BR v AR optimum range 65m and beyond
AR max effective range 500m
BR max effective range 900m

so this restricts the MA5s practical use to relatively close to mid range when engaging Elites Brutes and Spartans, how ever it is still functanal at longer ranges, and effective against weaker units at long range

as for the BR, it will normally get overwhelmed in close quarters however if you are good with grenades you could drop an opponents shield and get the head shot

  • 10.20.2009 8:18 PM PDT

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If there is no BR in Halo Reach, then we know that alot of people will just stick with Halo 3 for Multiplayer. Weird how one gun can make a difference.

  • 10.20.2009 8:41 PM PDT

I am of an open mind and I am willing to hear criticism. Also: That's stupid and you're stupid.

I'm sure that no matter what, we will buy the game, and Halo: Reach will have a gun that will satisfy everyone's needs.

As they said in Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST, the multiplayer is NOT canon, so technically, the BR has just a good of a chance of returning as any other weapon.

  • 10.20.2009 8:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.


between an OP pistol and a OP Rifle hmmm OP rifle larger mag OP pistol small mag. I think the OP pistol wins

  • 10.20.2009 8:50 PM PDT

Breaking barriers.

There is nothing overpowered about the BR, these players just hate it because they do not know how to kill somebody wielding one with another weapons.

  • 10.20.2009 8:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: anahum
There is nothing overpowered about the BR, these players just hate it because they do not know how to kill somebody wielding one with another weapons.


Fine its overused and it takes weapon variety out of the game. Thats what i loved about ODST that your not using the same weapon all the time your constantly switching up weapons and every weapon basically has one purpose.

[Edited on 10.20.2009 8:57 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 8:56 PM PDT

*Bobfather17*

What if the BR took 15 bullets to kill and got a longer range? As of now it is a bit dominating since it is either a starting weapon or all over the map and they're good in any situation and the best at many situations. There's still the carbine and whatever pistol reach brings.

  • 10.20.2009 8:57 PM PDT

The Battle Rifle is an anti-sniper weapon. If there are sniper weapons in Reach, you can bet your ass there'll be anti-sniper weapons.

The BR was omitted from ODST for 2 main reasons. Bungie didn't like it... at all, and they had 2 weapons that pretty well divided the role... the Auto-mag and the Silenced SMG.

So chances are, yes (thank god), there will be a BR in reach.

I <3 BR.

[Edited on 10.20.2009 8:58 PM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 8:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: anahum
There is nothing overpowered about the BR, these players just hate it because they do not know how to kill somebody wielding one with another weapons.


Fine its overused and it takes weapon variety out of the game. Thats what i loved about ODST that your not using the same weapon all the time your constantly switching up weapons and every weapon basically has one purpose.

I kept switching weapons because I kept running out of ammo... damn Famine skull!

  • 10.20.2009 8:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.

I guess Dead or Alive is lacking then...

  • 10.20.2009 9:00 PM PDT