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Subject: Do u want BR back in Reach?

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Posted by: TG PFC Caboose
Posted by: Josephson
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There is nothing overpowered about the BR, these players just hate it because they do not know how to kill somebody wielding one with another weapons.


Fine its overused and it takes weapon variety out of the game. Thats what i loved about ODST that your not using the same weapon all the time your constantly switching up weapons and every weapon basically has one purpose.

I kept switching weapons because I kept running out of ammo... damn Famine skull!

ha yeah that skull was pretty annoying but i liked tilt because the majority of people just use unsc weapons and it took them out of their comfort zone. even though it just lead to picking up the carbine which was almost as good as the BR

  • 10.20.2009 9:04 PM PDT

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.

I guess Dead or Alive is lacking then...

So he's saying there's a Rocket Launcher in Forza 3!? I gotta find that thing!

  • 10.20.2009 9:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: LockeGenRedux
Well, I hate to break it to all of you Die hard BR fans, but...

If you go through the stories and such, the BR was actually introduced about the middle of First Strike, Contrary to that, the prototype BR was in use by Johnson in Harvest.
So, Techniqually... The BR would not be in the game unless it were a prototype or Bungie decides to put it in just for kicks. This could be one of those "Up to Bungie" Things...

But just saying, The BR wont be in Reach, for the Conflicting Story reasons.
Wait a second. It takes 23 years for a rifle to go from the prototype phase to the fielded phase?

Don't think so. Ever consider the possibility that the Spartans just never encountered the BR before First Strike? Maybe their Spartan-issue (M6D, M6C/SOCOM) pistols were compact and effective enough to fill the void. We never saw them use Hornets either but we know that they existed in the field long before.


Cheehwawa damn you make a good point like always but i still dont think the BR should be in the game or if it should happen to be in the game i hope its tweaked so i dont use it as much.

  • 10.20.2009 9:16 PM PDT
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The BR is nice and all, but headshot capability plus burst fire does make it do more of the work for you. If you compare its fire rate to the other headshot capable weapons, it's amazingly fast. In the same time it takes to get out a single bullet on the other three guns, you've shot out three, each capable of killing on their own. Huge advantage.

If you miss a shot with a pistol/carbine/sniper rifle, the time it takes to readjust and fire again is capable of being long enough to mean your death.
If you miss the first bullet of a BR's burst, you have two more right behind it to back it up while you readjust.

  • 10.20.2009 9:22 PM PDT


I don't know, the head guy at Bungie in charge of weapon design is quoted as saying "I never liked the BR, I HATE the BR. That is why we took it out of ODST."


Actually when he said that he was referring to Dual Weilding. Well on the Halo 3 ODST Pre-Launch show they said the reason they didnt put duel weilding in ODST is because the head guy hates Dual Weilding and never liked it. If I can find the clip ill post it, but im pretty positive they they were talking about Dual Weilding.

  • 10.20.2009 9:48 PM PDT
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Yes.

  • 10.20.2009 10:24 PM PDT

"Before you insult someone, try walking a mile in their shoes. This way, when you insult them, you are a mile away and have their shoes."

The BR should not return, because it wouldn't fit in with the story.

  • 10.20.2009 10:26 PM PDT

Posted by: davadude
The BR should not return, because it wouldn't fit in with the story.


If im right, they had prototypes of the BR during the time of Reach. So they would fit in with the story, but would have to make it so its less common to find one, like the sniper, dont make it so its all over the map, in stead make it something that when you see it you think "Oh I should grab that to prevent the other team from having it".

  • 10.20.2009 10:34 PM PDT

Posted by: XIX W4rg45m XIX
The BR is the most popular weapon in the game (going by total nmber of kills). I think it should still be in there, as people love to have BR battles, but they should do something to give it less power somehow. Not really sure though.

look up the old halo 2 e3 demo on youtube sometime. the completely single shot design would work with just a few damage changes. if not completely semi auto. then atleast semi while zoomed and burst when not zoomed

  • 10.20.2009 10:40 PM PDT

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
Posted by: davadude
The BR should not return, because it wouldn't fit in with the story.


If im right, they had prototypes of the BR during the time of Reach. So they would fit in with the story, but would have to make it so its less common to find one, like the sniper, dont make it so its all over the map, in stead make it something that when you see it you think "Oh I should grab that to prevent the other team from having it".

read teh halo novel first strike. u are absollutely correct. they have flashbacks to the invasion of reach and haisly shows a group of the spartans the new battle rifles. they do def. have their place in the battle of reach

  • 10.20.2009 10:41 PM PDT

Posted by: Josephson
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: LockeGenRedux
Well, I hate to break it to all of you Die hard BR fans, but...

If you go through the stories and such, the BR was actually introduced about the middle of First Strike, Contrary to that, the prototype BR was in use by Johnson in Harvest.
So, Techniqually... The BR would not be in the game unless it were a prototype or Bungie decides to put it in just for kicks. This could be one of those "Up to Bungie" Things...

But just saying, The BR wont be in Reach, for the Conflicting Story reasons.
Wait a second. It takes 23 years for a rifle to go from the prototype phase to the fielded phase?

Don't think so. Ever consider the possibility that the Spartans just never encountered the BR before First Strike? Maybe their Spartan-issue (M6D, M6C/SOCOM) pistols were compact and effective enough to fill the void. We never saw them use Hornets either but we know that they existed in the field long before.


Cheehwawa damn you make a good point like always but i still dont think the BR should be in the game or if it should happen to be in the game i hope its tweaked so i dont use it as much.

i dont think u understand the fact of when the br was introduced in first strike. the book is about wat happens right after john blows up halo. but as he meets more ppl and finds a team of spartans, there are flashbacks to when individual spartans of that team are fightin on reach. thats when the br was introduced. its certainly a possibility in reach. although i think bungie is gonna put it in as a rarety. they werent prototypes then, but they were yet to be standard issue

  • 10.20.2009 10:45 PM PDT

Posted by: BOB THE DOCTER
the br was released during halo 2, the beta version released to spartans and select odst, cauld be inclueded

actually the br was released quite sometime b4 the battle of reach took place. johnson used the prototype on harvest. and that was years b4 the cole protocol took effect. and even then they were still far off from the reach battle. read the novels. its a gateway to further understanding of the halo universe

  • 10.20.2009 10:49 PM PDT

"Before you insult someone, try walking a mile in their shoes. This way, when you insult them, you are a mile away and have their shoes."

Posted by: TS AGRawr2
Posted by: davadude
The BR should not return, because it wouldn't fit in with the story.


If im right, they had prototypes of the BR during the time of Reach. So they would fit in with the story, but would have to make it so its less common to find one, like the sniper, dont make it so its all over the map, in stead make it something that when you see it you think "Oh I should grab that to prevent the other team from having it".


They would need to make it weaker and have smaller clips because of it's "prototype" status.

  • 10.20.2009 10:53 PM PDT

Posted by: davadude
Posted by: TS AGRawr2
Posted by: davadude
The BR should not return, because it wouldn't fit in with the story.


If im right, they had prototypes of the BR during the time of Reach. So they would fit in with the story, but would have to make it so its less common to find one, like the sniper, dont make it so its all over the map, in stead make it something that when you see it you think "Oh I should grab that to prevent the other team from having it".


They would need to make it weaker and have smaller clips because of it's "prototype" status.


They wouldnt have too, cause even a prototype could be the end result, however i would be fine if they changed clip size and strength by a little bit, aslong as they have some sort of human weapon that is as about as good as a BR.

  • 10.20.2009 10:58 PM PDT

Confound these ponies, they drive me to insomnia.

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Look at it. That is all.

  • 10.20.2009 11:43 PM PDT
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Shaboopi Cannon

I kinda agree with you, but i think the MA5 should have a zoom like in ODST or aim mechanic similar to the "RFG" AR

I like the Idea of a HUMAN semi auto weapon. but i think the BR55 should take that roll

right now the AR is A bludgeoning tool and the BR works like an assault rifle. if the AR worked like an AR and the BR worked like a BR then there would not be an issue.

however Halo in general takes place in very close quarters
the Sniping bit in the Level the Ark you are not even 50 yards away from the targets, so as far accuracy goes all guns should be perfectly accurate if you give at least a half second between shots, granted the AR is reasonably accurate when fired in burst.

any way i have this all worked out in this post, however one of the replies did have a good point about the relevancy of the post. because the odds are bungie already have the weapons set up how they want them. any way it was a good idea.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=38208897


[Edited on 10.21.2009 12:08 AM PDT]

  • 10.20.2009 11:55 PM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.


I hate to disagree with you z0rgy but, more than likely, it will NOT be in the game.

The reason the BR wasn't in ODST was because it's an overpowered weapon, it makes other weapons pointless.

So unless you want Halo: Reach to ONLY include BRs, which, judging by your post, I don't think you do, then that's how it's going to be.

  • 10.21.2009 12:20 AM PDT
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oh yeah..

  • 10.21.2009 11:15 AM PDT

screw you guys,im goin home!

the only people who dont like BRs fail

  • 10.21.2009 7:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.

MLG loves any dominant mid-range weapon. In their early days, they loved Halo CE's pistol. Take out the BR, and they still have the Carbine. Take out the Carbine and they have the Magnum.

The simplest way of saying it is that MLG will not lose a focal weapon, they will always have one.

  • 10.21.2009 7:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ray MK IV
Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.


I hate to disagree with you z0rgy but, more than likely, it will NOT be in the game.

The reason the BR wasn't in ODST was because it's an overpowered weapon, it makes other weapons pointless.

So unless you want Halo: Reach to ONLY include BRs, which, judging by your post, I don't think you do, then that's how it's going to be.


In ODST the BR would not be over powered, but I guess nobody got the memo.

I think the real reason its not in ODST is to differentiate ODSTs from Halo 3.

  • 10.21.2009 7:57 PM PDT

why would u not want it

  • 10.21.2009 8:24 PM PDT

Posted by: blindsk8r
the only people who dont like BRs fail

Maybe you fail.. ever consider that?

Like I have previously stated, the BR55 is an Anti-Sniper weapon... and there WILL be a human anti-sniper weapon in Halo: Reach.

Halo 1: Magnum
Halo 2: BR55/Covenant Carbine
Halo 3: BR55/Covenant Carbine
Halo 3 ODST: Auto-Mag/Covenant Carbine

Look at the above trend. Each Halo has had an appropriate Anti-Sniper weapon, and I can tell you right now that Reach will to. What weapon it will be is still a mystery, but there wil be one.

And it would be very Canon if the BR55 were to be in Reach. For some odd reason, some of the users here think that the BR55 stayed in the prototype phase for the 20+ years in between the book Contact Harvest and the game Halo: Reach... 'nuff said.

  • 10.22.2009 2:02 PM PDT

Da Husk.

BR FAILS CARBINE AND AUTOMAG FTW

[Edited on 10.22.2009 2:10 PM PDT]

  • 10.22.2009 2:08 PM PDT
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Who is this crazy darkpig guy anyway?

Make other weopons more powerful, problem solved : )

  • 10.22.2009 2:51 PM PDT