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Subject: Do u want BR back in Reach?
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Yes, I do want BRs back, they are the one of the few 'realistic' weapons in the Halo series. I mean 'realistic' in the sense that you expect to see a weapon like that on a battlefield.

As I hope that reach will take a more tactical approach to combat, such as a greater emphasis on cover, fire and movement, and a more 'modern' set of vehicles, situations, and weapons, I also hope that the BR makes a return. Unlike the 'scoped' pistol, the BR at least makes some sense. Remember, the scoped pistol and the BR have roughly the same tactics, medium range accurate fire. Given that such a weapon should exist in Halo: Reach, I prefer the BR.

Now, how to balance it? Easy, add movement to the accuracy considerations. Give the BR a healthy loss of accuracy when moving, so that to really use the BR to its full potential, you have to be more or less stationary. (now, this will only make sense in a larger overhaul of the Halo multiplayer and single player combat. An overhaul that moves combat away from firing on the move, away from the gameplay styles used by everyone who plays Halo multiplayer { and CoD multiplayer for that matter} to something less twitchy ) Furthermore, the BR damage can be tweaked so that it takes say 15 rounds to kill someone, not 5 bursts of which maybe 2/3s of the rounds hit.

I think that the BR can be balanced and that it is necessary for a proper, in my opinion, approach to Halo: Reach.

  • 09.16.2009 6:51 PM PDT

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i say absolutely, cuz what would halo turn into without the BR?


A test of tactics moreso than a display of ones ability to camp fireing lanes?
oh so you want people with the AR's and their controller mods to dominate i see......FAIL


How is that any worse than a BR with a controller mod? You don't think kid, the AR is very limited, the BR is not. Removing the BR would force people to play a little more tactically (provided maps were made to support the change).

AR domination is a funny concept, what can you dominate with an AR? Maybe a shotty/sword and mauler if your not too close. There are many other weapons that fire within the same range as the AR, the BR is the only weapon in the game that is functional in several different ranges. The BR does allow for lockdown and domination on certain maps, the AR does not. Your fireback is "FAIL".
OMG do you even know what a controller mod do's???? if someone with the AR has a controller mod the gun will fire just as fast as someone with out one BUT the accuracy is greatly increased! and with the BR controller mods DON'T work because it's already a burst so.....FAIL AGAIN :)

  • 09.16.2009 6:52 PM PDT

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MLG does love this weapon. Im sure Bungie doesnt want to alienate them. I mean, they have their own playlist. Bungie can get away with it in ODST because it doesnt affect the multiplayer, but Reach is definately gonna need it.

MLG can shift. I bet if the BR went away, they would just start using Carbines.


Lol, we would have already switched if you could start with them.

  • 09.16.2009 6:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: BloodiestSparky
i say absolutely, cuz what would halo turn into without the BR?


A test of tactics moreso than a display of ones ability to camp fireing lanes?
oh so you want people with the AR's and their controller mods to dominate i see......FAIL


How is that any worse than a BR with a controller mod? You don't think kid, the AR is very limited, the BR is not. Removing the BR would force people to play a little more tactically (provided maps were made to support the change).

AR domination is a funny concept, what can you dominate with an AR? Maybe a shotty/sword and mauler if your not too close. There are many other weapons that fire within the same range as the AR, the BR is the only weapon in the game that is functional in several different ranges. The BR does allow for lockdown and domination on certain maps, the AR does not. Your fireback is "FAIL".
OMG do you even know what a controller mod do's???? if someone with the AR has a controller mod the gun will fire just as fast as someone with out one BUT the accuracy is greatly increased! and with the BR controller mods DON'T work because it's already a burst so.....FAIL AGAIN :)


Ok, i'll bite, please explain to me how a controller (the thing in your hand) mod affects weapon accuracy which is governed by the game software.

  • 09.16.2009 6:57 PM PDT

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damn how many of these threads have seen its ludicrous if there is no BR in halo reach i would not give a flying -blam!- and to the people who can not live without the BR its a god damn weapon adapt to a new one go out of your comfort zone who knows pick up a carbine or a spiker ect.

  • 09.16.2009 6:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

If they drown it in crap sauce like they did the H3 AR.

edit: Actually I think a better question is, WILL THEY BRING BACK THE HALO CE PISTOL!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? D=
D= D=

[Edited on 09.16.2009 7:04 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 7:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: SweetTRIX
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Posted by: SweetTRIX
[quote]Posted by: arachnid223
[quote]Posted by: SweetTRIX
[quote]Posted by: BloodiestSparky
i say absolutely, cuz what would halo turn into without the BR?

How is that any worse than a BR with a controller mod? You don't think kid, the AR is very limited, the BR is not. Removing the BR would force people to play a little more tactically (provided maps were made to support the change).

AR domination is a funny concept, what can you dominate with an AR? Maybe a shotty/sword and mauler if your not too close. There are many other weapons that fire within the same range as the AR, the BR is the only weapon in the game that is functional in several different ranges. The BR does allow for lockdown and domination on certain maps, the AR does not. Your fireback is "FAIL".
OMG do you even know what a controller mod do's???? if someone with the AR has a controller mod the gun will fire just as fast as someone with out one BUT the accuracy is greatly increased! and with the BR controller mods DON'T work because it's already a burst so.....FAIL AGAIN :)


Ok, i'll bite, please explain to me how a controller (the thing in your hand) mod affects weapon accuracy which is governed by the game software.
holding the trigger down makes for bullet spread.were as a controller mod makes it that you can hold the trigger and the controller rapidly sends the information.which means that the spread will not increase like a fully automatic gun. go play halo and tap the trigger on the AR.then hold it.there is already a great difference just there :)

  • 09.16.2009 7:02 PM PDT
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Ok I want the BR back but I want it changed here are my reasons listed in comparison to the AR.

BR stats

-Scope
-Burst fire (4 bursts to the head kills)
-36 bullets (so if no missing 3 kills with one clip)
-108 filled (3 clips counting the one you have is 16 kills if u hav no misses)
-good at most ranges
-headshot bonus

AR
-no scope
-Automatic
-32 bullets (bout a clip per kill)
-fast beat down
-good in close to med range


Ok look at those stats the BR dominates gameplay in all situations the BR is perfectly able to get massive kills with one clip. The AR the "Noob weapon" is easy to use and can be deadly with experienced players but will ultimatly fall short to some one with a BR halfway across the map.

To be honest I love the BR and AR both are great weapons AR weapon of choice BR back up but srsly the BR needs to be TONED DOWN, it has so many pluses no minuses unless your up close and personal with a guy going all out with the AR the BR always wins. This doesnt make the AR a noob weapon it makes the BR OPed out the fly the BR was not made to be unstoppable but people found ways to destroy competition with it.

Where as the AR is called a noob weapon cause it doesnt got with the BR has.

In all sake in purposes if the Noob weapon "AR" is so noobie where it apparently sucks to the BR why is it a noob weapon? Doesnt that mean the BR is the noob weapon? Because it can out class everything and when you get killed by some kid with an AR you call them a noob for using the AR?

Honestly the AR is way more fair then the BR which has the many kills in just 4 clips.

In short do I want the BR out no I love it because of how it functions but I want it to be TONED DOWN so it isnt as bloody OP seriouslly.

  • 09.16.2009 7:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: theHurtfulTurkey
A real test of a man is if he is willing to scrape a sharpened razor up and down his junk just to please a woman.

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Ok I want the BR back but I want it changed here are my reasons listed in comparison to the AR.

BR stats

-Scope
-Burst fire (4 bursts to the head kills)
-36 bullets (so if no missing 3 kills with one clip)
-108 filled (3 clips counting the one you have is 16 kills if u hav no misses)
-good at most ranges
-headshot bonus

AR
-no scope
-Automatic
-32 bullets (bout a clip per kill)
-fast beat down
-good in close to med range


Ok look at those stats the BR dominates gameplay in all situations the BR is perfectly able to get massive kills with one clip. The AR the "Noob weapon" is easy to use and can be deadly with experienced players but will ultimatly fall short to some one with a BR halfway across the map.

To be honest I love the BR and AR both are great weapons AR weapon of choice BR back up but srsly the BR needs to be TONED DOWN, it has so many pluses no minuses unless your up close and personal with a guy going all out with the AR the BR always wins. This doesnt make the AR a noob weapon it makes the BR OPed out the fly the BR was not made to be unstoppable but people found ways to destroy competition with it.

Where as the AR is called a noob weapon cause it doesnt got with the BR has.

In all sake in purposes if the Noob weapon "AR" is so noobie where it apparently sucks to the BR why is it a noob weapon? Doesnt that mean the BR is the noob weapon? Because it can out class everything and when you get killed by some kid with an AR you call them a noob for using the AR?

Honestly the AR is way more fair then the BR which has the many kills in just 4 clips.

In short do I want the BR out no I love it because of how it functions but I want it to be TONED DOWN so it isnt as bloody OP seriouslly.
Just get rid of the headshot bonus.

  • 09.16.2009 7:23 PM PDT

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Hell bloody no.

It was still in field testing during that time. Meaning, it would not be widespread, making it impossible, storyline wise, to be available to everyday troops.

However, the Carbine was around, a perfect replacement weapon.

  • 09.16.2009 8:05 PM PDT

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  • 09.16.2009 9:20 PM PDT
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  • 09.16.2009 9:21 PM PDT

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  • 09.16.2009 10:06 PM PDT

I'm out.

Aiming in an FPS is overrated, just get rid of it.

  • 09.16.2009 10:17 PM PDT

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No, absolutely not.

  • 09.16.2009 10:24 PM PDT
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I'd rather have the M6D.

  • 09.16.2009 10:30 PM PDT

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I think that the BR was removed in ODST for other, more subtle reasons. Such as preparing us for no BR in Reach.

  • 09.16.2009 10:51 PM PDT

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You know what I would like?

The Battle Rifle available in Reach, along with the original (CE version) Assault Rifle, the original Pistol (or the ODST version, I haven't gotten to use it yet so I'm not sure), and yet another medium-range weapon for 'funsies'.

If I had my way, I basically take every gun in Halo and strrrreeetttcccchhh out it's range and varying ease-of-use at those ranges. Make the Sniper even better at long-range (maybe added a 12x zoom), make the BR slightly more accurate at longer distances, put the Pistol in with a range slightly less than that of the BR's, and up the Assault Rifle to a longer range. As it is the weapons in Halo 3 seem to be fairly hard to use at long range. I'd like it to go back to Halo CE where even at ridiculous distance you are still in danger of being killed, even by a BR or Pistol.

  • 09.17.2009 12:54 AM PDT

The BR should definitely be in the game, its been a staple since H2. Let the game be just as customizable, or more so. Allow the Halo community to choose between those who enjoy a good weapon that requires aim and skill (BR), and those who enjoy mindless run and gun (ok a little dig there, had to!). I think the community is big enough to warrant something like that, and if Bungie wants Reach continue Halo being the flagship MLG game, then it should def. have the gun in the game. I don't see what the big deal is, people are scared of the BR or something. Overpowered? I don't think so, its actually quite gimped when you consider the random bullet spread.

  • 09.17.2009 1:37 AM PDT
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the only reason you dont want the BR back is because you sucked with it.

  • 09.17.2009 9:10 AM PDT

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No, I can live without the BR. Every game so far had a dominating weapon, it'll be interesting to see what's next. I really liked the pistol from the first Halo, but I suppose it was way too strong xD. Also, people would probably get sick playing a New halo in the same 4-shotting style. I know I would :). Don't worry about it though, Bungie will make the right decision >:D.

  • 09.17.2009 9:17 AM PDT

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Posted by: ZeroXFallen
I think that the BR was removed in ODST for other, more subtle reasons. Such as preparing us for no BR in Reach.

Ooooooh, interesting :D. Sneaky Bungie ninja skillz :).

  • 09.17.2009 9:20 AM PDT