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Subject: Do u want BR back in Reach?
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September 27th 2009

Posted by: turtle3242008
hell no

  • 09.26.2009 4:08 PM PDT

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I want Bungie to do a better job of weapon balance and the weapons placed on a map.

The BR doesn't have to be in Reach but more Mid range weapons could be added.

Halo 3 has the BR and the Carbine (few appearances) as mid range weapons.I would like to see more weapons like these as well as a better assortment of shorter range weapons.

Since I feel like the dual wieldable weapons aren't well balanced compared to the BR and AR.

Also on the bigger maps you have more long range weapons and a greater variety of long range weapons.

And of course on small maps you have a larger variety of short range weapons.

  • 09.26.2009 4:28 PM PDT

BR TAKES NO SKILL!

  • 09.26.2009 4:37 PM PDT

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Even if there isn't a Battle Rifle...a weapon will need to be in the game to take its place.

  • 09.26.2009 4:45 PM PDT

[>>Ang3l<<]

what u mean BR takes no skill? its like using a sniper, needs accuracy, and concistancy, for head shots isnt easy, easpecially when ur no in scope and at a distance. plz tell me why u think it takes no skill.

  • 09.26.2009 4:47 PM PDT

How about we have both? except have the pistol a little weaker maybe to 4-5 shots to kill? but if i had to choose yes to BR

  • 09.26.2009 4:51 PM PDT

I say either decrease the Br clip size or have 4 bullets fire in a burst instead of 3 bullets, doing the same amount of damage but requiring more time and using up the clip faster.

If you take out the Br then the sniper would COMPLETELY DOMINATE everyone on the ground with Ars

  • 09.26.2009 4:59 PM PDT
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i think they should take it out

people have become way to dependant on it

they dont use any other weapon unless forced to. dont get wrong i like the BR and all but people really need to use different weapons such as the spikers or the flamethower

  • 09.26.2009 7:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.

I don't know, the head guy at Bungie in charge of weapon design is quoted as saying "I never liked the BR, I HATE the BR. That is why we took it out of ODST."


That is a modified version of his quote.

  • 09.26.2009 7:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ang3l0804
what u mean BR takes no skill? its like using a sniper, needs accuracy, and concistancy, for head shots isnt easy, easpecially when ur no in scope and at a distance. plz tell me why u think it takes no skill.

what u mean BR takes no skill? its like using a sniper, needs accuracy, and concistancy, for head shots isnt easy, easpecially when ur no in scope and at a distance.
its like using a sniper

Lol'd

Headshots aren't easy? All you have to do is follow your target with the reticule while the little red dot is there. It takes more skill then the AR spray, but it isn't something to be exaggerated to such an extent.

  • 09.26.2009 7:57 PM PDT

Alexander Wilson

you really don't need the BR,the AR and SMG are good enough but thanks to earlier games it's kinda a part of the halo universe.Can you really get ride of something that already established in a game like halo,did the UNSC just decide that they did not need a gun that could help them win,a gun that is supperior to the AR?
so I think it would make sense to keep the rifle.

  • 09.26.2009 8:07 PM PDT

Please keep the BR!!!!! im not a noob and im fairly skilled at using other weaons in the game but the BR is a corner stone of halo multiplayer. I think that part of the experience is having weapons suited to everyones needs. The fact is some people (like me) are perfectly content to sit back with a sniper rifle and get sniper kills from across the map or rack up kils with the energy sword but other people like to have the versatility of having a weapon that can be used at any range.
I personaly think that most people who say the BR is over powered just haven't taken the time to find it's weaknesses.

  • 09.26.2009 8:12 PM PDT

Alexander Wilson

I totally agree with XxobamayomamaxX.

  • 09.26.2009 8:17 PM PDT

What do you mean
Posted by: Pashto96
BR TAKES NO SKILL!

The BR is a weapon that takes lots of skill to master. Its true that a lot of people use it but not many are skilled. We all started out as that noob that was lucky to get 2 kills in a match but we all gained experience and learned to play. We all chose our favorite weapon and grew to love it. Some chose the sniper and others the shot gun but we chose. Not many choose the BR and of those that chose it not many can use it. Only some really use it.It takes extreme skill to kill a sniper and then seconds later to kill the guy with the sword.

  • 09.26.2009 8:24 PM PDT

Alexander Wilson

most people who say the BR is over powered just haven't taken the time to find it's weaknesses.

  • 09.26.2009 8:26 PM PDT

Thanks for the comment SPARTAN2X212

  • 09.26.2009 8:26 PM PDT

I think that Bugie should improve the spartan lazer. They should give it twice as many uses.

  • 09.26.2009 8:29 PM PDT
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Just look at the Reach picture.
The person in the middle appears to be holding what looks like a Battle Rifle.

  • 09.26.2009 8:33 PM PDT

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I'm only going to say NO because Halo Ce didn't have the BR in it. Since Reach takes place before Ce, it only makes sense there is no Battle Rifle. Halo Ce pistol please?

  • 09.26.2009 8:36 PM PDT

Only if it was actually balanced this time, but I would rather have a modified CE pistol instead.

  • 09.26.2009 9:11 PM PDT

i think BR should be out. its a great weapon don't get me wrong and it is more realistic then most halo weapons, but it would kill the story. BR's did exist during reach but were not wide spread they were being field tested on another planet(harvest i think?) and so they would not be standard issue, like the AR. in my opinion they should bring back all the Halo: CE weapons. but just add the covenant and UNSC weapons and equipment later introduced to halo 2 and 3. but theres one flaw with my idea. dual wielding. if you could dual wield 2 of the original pistols you'd be unstoppable. and since the game takes place on reach the player will most likely be a spartan possibly even the master chief. and we all know that the mc can dual wield smg's and other smaller weapons. we cant just forget about that idea. so toned down pistols and all the halo: ce weapons would be a great addition. maybe some changes on the weapons though. because ten needles used to mean death to any covenant dumb enough to get in your way, 132 rounds is way too much for a pistol, and 72 shells is way too much for a shotgun. also whatever happened to being able to ride on the treads of the scorpion? that was always fun. oh yeah and a sniper scope with night vision would be cool to bring back too. just saying that halo: ce was a great game so it'd be nice to bring back some of its features but just change the weapons to balance the firefights a little bit better.

[Edited on 09.26.2009 10:26 PM PDT]

  • 09.26.2009 10:01 PM PDT

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no put in the MA5K Carbine

  • 09.26.2009 10:17 PM PDT

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  • 09.26.2009 10:18 PM PDT

One does not simply walk into Halo.

When people refer to the BR being overpowered, that's not really true. The problem is the introduction of dual wielding, which decreased the effectiveness of a lot of weapons, which makes it seem like the BR is more powerful than it really is. A Plasma Rifle is supposed to be the equivalent of an MA5B, not an SMG. The plasma pistol was supposed to be an equivalent of an M6D. The reason Halo CE had the most balanced multiplayer was because of all the weapons having some range and being useful. Sure the pistol may seem overpowered to some people because it can kill in 3 shots, but did that mean that it would always do that? No, it took time to master the proper way of using the M6D since every weapon needed to lead shots greatly at range.

Frankly, I couldn't care less whether or not they remove it for Reach, as long as every weapon works well, then everyone can be happy with the weapons they desire.

  • 09.26.2009 10:32 PM PDT

In it's current form the BR shouldn't return. More than half the time it's a spawn weapon and when it's not it's all over the map anyway.

It takes 3 burst to take off the shield and one bullet of the burst to the head to kill. That is a little silly, think about the Spiker. Those are hot shards of metal piercing through armor, but you can't headshot with them. I'm not asking for a head shot with the Spiker, just at least make it so you have to get the full burst to head shot kill.

I'm thinking that Bungie should change it to 4 shots to get a shield off, then I wouldn't mind the one bullet headshot so much. And also give it a smaller clip than the AR, because it's got better accuracy and power than a AR.

You say that would make it ineffective against the AR at close range? Exactly, it's a med-long range weapon not a close range one. Plasma Rifles, SMGs and Spiker Rifles are very hard to be effective with at long range, because they are CLOSE range weapons.

Why should one weapon have equal effectiveness in every situation? Because that how real guns work you say? Well we're not in real life are we? We are in a game, and this is one of the few things we as humans CAN choose to balance.

I like the ODST Automag better than the BR. It's got great accuracy but cannot take a shield off for the life of it. THIS WORKS. Plasma for the shield, bullets for the health. Everything else is just to mix it up a little. The Needler for long distance shock tactics. Brute shot, Rockets and Fuel Rods for the self/destructive one. Hammer, Sword, Shotty and Mauler for the close range melee fanatics.

What's left? The sniper and the laser, two very powerful weapons with equal effectiveness everywhere. What's the justification? These are POWER Weapons. They are not scattered all over the map. They are fought over.

The BR does not fit in in it's current form. Effectiveness everywhere and spawned with. You say this levels the playing ground? It does, but the ground would still be level BR v. BR with five shots and a smaller clip. Right now, BR v. Everything else at any range is BR = or > Everything.

(WARNING: This part is biased.)What about those who find it dull to use anything else? Is the most fun you can have in Halo watching people drop? Well, you might want to go play Call of Duty. I came to play a game with crazy explosions, vehicles flying, fire, an epic art style and color palette, addictive non-monotonous action, and cool looking weapons.


[Edited on 09.26.2009 10:51 PM PDT]

  • 09.26.2009 10:47 PM PDT