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Subject: Do u want BR back in Reach?

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Poll: Do u want BR back in Reach?  [closed]
yes:  68%
(1443 Votes)
no:  32%
(683 Votes)
Total Votes: 2126

NO.

  • 09.16.2009 11:47 AM PDT

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hell no

  • 09.16.2009 11:53 AM PDT
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like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.

  • 09.16.2009 12:03 PM PDT

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MLG does love this weapon. Im sure Bungie doesnt want to alienate them. I mean, they have their own playlist. Bungie can get away with it in ODST because it doesnt affect the multiplayer, but Reach is definately gonna need it.

  • 09.16.2009 12:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.

I don't know, the head guy at Bungie in charge of weapon design is quoted as saying "I never liked the BR, I HATE the BR. That is why we took it out of ODST."

  • 09.16.2009 12:11 PM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Posted by: subjectcow1
MLG does love this weapon. Im sure Bungie doesnt want to alienate them. I mean, they have their own playlist. Bungie can get away with it in ODST because it doesnt affect the multiplayer, but Reach is definately gonna need it.

MLG can shift. I bet if the BR went away, they would just start using Carbines.

  • 09.16.2009 12:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: z0rgy
like it or not, it'll be in the game.

here are the mandatory weapons in any video games :
rocket launcher, sniper rifle, shotgun, assault rifle.

and in halo, you need a weapon that's a mix between the AR and sniper rifle. you have the choice between an OP pistol bungie never used again after H1 and ... an iconic weapon MLG loves.

I don't know, the head guy at Bungie in charge of weapon design is quoted as saying "I never liked the BR, I HATE the BR. That is why we took it out of ODST."


he hates the BR so much it's been in all halo sequels, replacing the M6D....
the opinion of one dev doesn't count in term of gameplay. if it fits in and has an important role, then whether the devs like that thing or not, it needs to stay there.

let's say they remove the br (and M6D since it is basically a reskinned br). on map without carbines, a sniper would dominate.

  • 09.16.2009 12:14 PM PDT
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The BR is the most popular weapon in the game (going by total nmber of kills). I think it should still be in there, as people love to have BR battles, but they should do something to give it less power somehow. Not really sure though.

  • 09.16.2009 12:23 PM PDT

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Of course....the Battle Rifle is amazing!

  • 09.16.2009 12:32 PM PDT

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Personally I think that the BR should not return in it's current form. For better or worse (depending on personal opinion) the BR is far more effective than it was designed to be, often times fulfulling a role far outside of it's intended "assault rifle" slot.

If it were to be tweaked to make it a little less effective, or possibly a little less easy to use, or rebalance all the weapons to work better with it, then that would be one thing. But H2 and H3 have had very poor weapons balance, due in large part to the BR and how the players have used it.

In regards to MLG, they adapt their gameplay to the set of tools available. Bungie doesn't bow to them, no dev does. While the MLG community opinion should not be tossed to the wayside, the return of the BR wouldn't be dictated by them.

  • 09.16.2009 12:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tonoottu
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but they should do something to give it less power somehow.

LOL WUT you know that a perfect kill with the BR takes 4 BR bursts right? And that you need to lead your shots and aim at the head. You know what it takes from the AR? 10 ROUNDS and how rapidly does the AR shoot again? Oh yeah, 10 rounds per second much?
Which is over powered?

br beatdown : 3 bursts, all shot landed, 9 bullets + melee
AR beatdown : 6 bullets + melee.

considering the RoF, accuracy and bullet magnetism.......... >.> is it hard to tell which one is OP?

  • 09.16.2009 12:34 PM PDT

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OP BR..........

  • 09.16.2009 12:37 PM PDT

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I think a pistol like the M6D should replace the BR but have it to kill in 5 shot instead of 3.

There's a reason why Halo: CE succeeded.

  • 09.16.2009 12:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pahat Pojat
I think a pistol like the M6D should replace the BR but have it to kill in 5 shot instead of 3.

There's a reason why Halo: CE succeeded.

because it was new, original and great with a good story, great gameplay, vehicles, atmosphere, good graphics and music.
not because ZOMG SUPAR PISTOLZOR IN DA GAME LULZ.

  • 09.16.2009 12:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
Posted by: XIX W4rg45m XIX
but they should do something to give it less power somehow.

LOL WUT you know that a perfect kill with the BR takes 4 BR bursts right? And that you need to lead your shots and aim at the head. You know what it takes from the AR? 10 ROUNDS and how rapidly does the AR shoot again? Oh yeah, 10 rounds per second much?
Which is over powered?


10 round kill from a AR? Was there a title update that I wasn't aware of? That gun takes nearly an entire clip to kill someone, it is nowhere near overpowered. If anything it's just easy to use.

  • 09.16.2009 12:50 PM PDT

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AR vs BR sadly the winner is the BR

  • 09.16.2009 12:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
If the BR is taken out of the game it will drop Halo's sales instantly. The AR was brought back because some people (noobs) were whining about not having the AR and/or that the BR is too over powered, which it isn't. According to canon the Pillar of Autumn was specially designed for spartan's use on missions, thus having the AR which is normally too large for Marines, and the M6D with explosive rounds. I personally would love the BR to stay. I mean come on a pistol that 3 shot's is even worse than the BR. People complain about the BR because either A: They don't know how to use it, B: Because MLG uses it or C: A and B. I mean GET OVER WITH IT Halo is a COMPETITIVE GAME this isn't frigin Hello Kitty Island Adventure for crying out loud. And btw MLG used the Halo 1 pistol too you know, so it probably wouldn't take out MLG from using Halo. But Halo 3: ODST was originally supposed to be an expansion but it turned out to be a full game. And the original arsenal in that specific game had stealth weapons (Silenced SMG and Magnum)

I disagree. Battle Rifle is in no ways essential to the game. And having it as its current form is not needed. If leaving a one gun out of the game is going to drop its sales, then I say let it drop. People who care about one weapon in game so much that they are not going to buy it just because it's not there, fail to enjoy the game as an experience IMHO. And I don't remember of hearing (or reading) that statement about the MA5 weapons being too big for normal human marines...

In that light, I would personally hope of having the MA5's as main weapons in most of the time, as it is said to be one of the commonest weapons in UNSC arsenal. With having some older BR variant as lesser seen weapon, with similar status such as the SRS99-series have had in Halo games of being seen, but too so frequently.

  • 09.16.2009 1:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: turtle3242008
AR vs BR sadly the winner is the BR


AR vs sniper, sadly the winner is the sniper.
REMOVE THE SNIPER!!11

the fact is, at close and semi close range, the AR is more powerful than a br will ever be.
at medium to long range, is it so surprising your close/medium ranged weapon sucks? :/ the AR is not a sniper mixed with a machinegun. it has a close quarter purpose.

  • 09.16.2009 1:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
If the BR is taken out of the game it will drop Halo's sales instantly. The AR was brought back because some people (noobs) were whining about not having the AR and/or that the BR is too over powered, which it isn't. According to canon the Pillar of Autumn was specially designed for spartan's use on missions, thus having the AR which is normally too large for Marines, and the M6D with explosive rounds. I personally would love the BR to stay. I mean come on a pistol that 3 shot's is even worse than the BR. People complain about the BR because either A: They don't know how to use it, B: Because MLG uses it or C: A and B. I mean GET OVER WITH IT Halo is a COMPETITIVE GAME this isn't frigin Hello Kitty Island Adventure for crying out loud. And btw MLG used the Halo 1 pistol too you know, so it probably wouldn't take out MLG from using Halo. But Halo 3: ODST was originally supposed to be an expansion but it turned out to be a full game. And the original arsenal in that specific game had stealth weapons (Silenced SMG and Magnum)


lol I love the BR.... and i was one of the peeps who wanted the AR back (no noob here) just was never a big fan of the SMG replacing it n such


[Edited on 09.16.2009 2:00 PM PDT]

  • 09.16.2009 1:52 PM PDT

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no!!! dont remove the sniper is a clasic

  • 09.16.2009 1:52 PM PDT

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I like the BR and would love to see it make a come. However since reach takes place chronologically before the implementation of the BR I doubt it will be included in the game.

  • 09.16.2009 2:04 PM PDT

Well, I hate to break it to all of you Die hard BR fans, but...

If you go through the stories and such, the BR was actually introduced about the middle of First Strike, Contrary to that, the prototype BR was in use by Johnson in Harvest.
So, Techniqually... The BR would not be in the game unless it were a prototype or Bungie decides to put it in just for kicks. This could be one of those "Up to Bungie" Things...

But just saying, The BR wont be in Reach, for the Conflicting Story reasons.

  • 09.16.2009 2:08 PM PDT